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rayman2k2 said:eh they started out as a prison colony, so i feel better.
then again, we did have a Civil War less than 100 years after our founding...
ezee said:Wonder about the last two posts.
Small men small cock syndrome?
Spectre said:The South will rise again! The war of southern oppression will not end until the south is free..................errrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....................I have been here way to long help me!
eh they started out as a prison colony, so i feel better.
ezee said:Save your Dixie Cups.
Seriously, though, this thread is all about the South rising. and we're certainly more South than you lot.
The South has risen to the top.
Prior to 1776 the Brits sent their prisoners to the American Colonies as 'indentured servents" for a term of 7 years before manumission. They were one step above slaves.
After the Glorious War of Independence (bloody well done too!!!) the Poms were screwed, had nowhere to dispose of the dross til Cook stumbled onto Van Dieman's Land, latterly the land of OZ.
But like the inscription on your Statue of Independence (great gift from the Frogs) "Send Me your tired, your hungry , your poor and I will build a Great Nation."
ezee said:Save your Dixie Cups.
Seriously, though, this thread is all about the South rising. and we're certainly more South than you lot.
The South has risen to the top.
Prior to 1776 the Brits sent their prisoners to the American Colonies as 'indentured servents" for a term of 7 years before manumission. They were one step above slaves.
ezee said:Save your Dixie Cups.
Seriously, though, this thread is all about the South rising. and we're certainly more South than you lot.
The South has risen to the top.
Prior to 1776 the Brits sent their prisoners to the American Colonies as 'indentured servents" for a term of 7 years before manumission. They were one step above slaves.
After the Glorious War of Independence (bloody well done too!!!) the Poms were screwed, had nowhere to dispose of the dross til Cook stumbled onto Van Dieman's Land, latterly the land of OZ.
But like the inscription on your Statue of Independence (great gift from the Frogs) "Send Me your tired, your hungry , your poor and I will build a Great Nation."
rayman2k2 said:false, many indentured servants came on their own accord. it was a way for farmers to get help, and to have more settlers come.
Perish or Prosper: The Law and Convict Transportation in the British Empire said:For over 150 years from the early eighteenth century, convict transportation was a primary method of punishing serious crime in Britain and Ireland.1 Convicts were first sent to the colonies in North America and the Caribbean and then to three newly established Australian colonies on the other side of the world. Conditions were very different between the two locations, yet the fundamental law of transportation remained the same for decades after the process began in Australia. 1
Before the American Revolution, about 50, 000 convicts were transported from Britain and Ireland to the American colonies.2 After the revolutionary war put a rude end to that, the British government eventually found a new location for its unwanted criminals: the colonies that eventually united to become Australia in 1901. Between 1788 and 1868, another 160, 000 British and Irish criminals were forced to take a much longer voyage to New South Wales, Van Diemen's Land, and Western Australia.3 2
Today, there is much more interest in Australia about convict transportation than there is in America. Dozens of books have been published about Australian convicts, but few about their transportation to America.4 The same difference in focus is evident in legal history, as can be seen by two general legal histories published in the 1980s. Alex Castles's An Australian Legal History5 had one chapter and dozens of other references on convicts and the law, while the second edition of Lawrence Friedman's A History of American Law6 had only one sentence specifically on convict transportation. Castles apparently believed that it was not possible to provide a comprehensive legal history of Australia without extensive reference to convicts, but Friedman thought very differently about America.7
I'm sure that no Aussie has ever rewritten history, right? Just substitute the words "People In Power" or "The current ruling party" etc... is more akin to the truth...ezee said:America has always been quite adept at rewriting the umpleasant portions of its history. Put it in the hands of the "spin doctors."
ezee said:America has always been quite adept at rewriting the umpleasant portions of its history. Put it in the hands of the "spin doctors."
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http://www.historycooperative.org/journals/lhr/21.3/forum_kercher.html