Raspberry Pi is shipping!!!

Discussion in 'All non-AMD/Intel CPUs' started by Stoly, Apr 15, 2012.

  1. @dmin

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    Realistically you would be better off with the beagle board stuff as there development has been more dynamic because of changes they made for corporate customers. RPi will prob ably be to static for a corporate backer to get on board.
     
  2. mrgstiffler

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    These are more geared towards development and taking the place of some micro controller duties. That's why they have GPIO.
     
  3. AgentQ

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    Definitely. The Raspberry Pi has been a runaway success so far, but I'm surprised at just how many people are buying one for all the wrong reasons. It's a great platform for learning about Linux, embedded systems programming, etc. but it's going to make for an awful desktop.

    Running anything from an SD Card is a miserable experience. You know the speedup you get going from a mechanical HDD to an SSD? Switching to an SD Card is like going in the opposite direction. Latency is awful. IOPs are incredibly low. Sustained throughput is decent if you get an expensive card, but that's not going to help for OS tasks. On all of ARM boards that I use for active development (console only) I attach a small SSD via USB and do everything out of a chroot on the SSD. It's a night and day difference in usability, even on just the console. It's also possible on most platforms to have the boot loader load the OS from a USB attached SSD, but it's not trivial at this point.

    Also, driver and software support is going to be a painful uphill battle. I work a lot with Beagleboards and Pandaboards, which have been out for quite a while, and anything beyond basic driver support is still very sketchy. Expect to spend a lot of times combing through forum threads and on IRC if you're doing anything beyond using pre-packaged OS images.

    On the other hand, if you're looking to actually learn about embedded systems and Linux then this is a great platform. There are going to be plenty of opportunities to work with open source projects, learn about the whole software stack from boot loader through Linux kernel, and tweak things at a very low level. The SD card makes this un-brickable, so a clean system is just one reformat away. Awesome platform for learning and experimenting.

    If you're looking for a general-purpose system to do X task, this probably isn't it. Even for XBMC, the onboard MPEG2 decoder isn't licensed by the R-Pi foundation, so you're limited to what you can decode. And like I said, anything with a user interface is going to be painfully laggy without some workarounds due to the SD Card primary storage. Also, keep in mind this is just a bare board unless you buy a case.
     
  4. tamngoman

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    does anyone know any alternative to raspberry pi?
     
  5. AgentQ

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    Pandaboard ($200) is the way to go if you can afford it. Best balance of modern hardware with decent driver support.

    BeagleBoard ($150) and BeagleBone ($100) are more mature but slower and less feature rich.

    There are several newcomers (ODROID-X, Gooseberry, etc.) but do not purchase anything cutting edge unless you enjoy messing with kernels, compiling code, applying patches from mailing lists, etc. Support is generally terrible with immature and niche ARM boards. For example, the Pandaboard is one of the few ARM boards listed as a target platform for Ubuntu 12.04, but you have to jump through hoops (adjusting CPU frequency governor) just to get it stable enough to last more than a day without crashing. And that's as good as it gets for out of the box support right now.

    Nothing is going to match the price of the Pi, though. The price is what makes it so attractive. If you're looking for something cheap to hack on, consider grabbing one of the cheap micro controller platforms. If you're looking to hack on Linux, you can always get started in an emulator until your Pi shows up.
     
  6. tamngoman

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    haha sweet, ill actually look into pandaboard. there is like no Pi shipping :[
     
  7. Dasuchin

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    Ordered mine but it hasn't shipped yet. How long is it taking for everyone to get it?
     
  8. The Donut

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    Got mine today.

    Will be looking at getting AirPlay running on it and then integrating it into the Cadillac's entertainment system to allow me to AirPlay audio & video!
     
  9. Gomjaba

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    I got mine sitting nicely inside as HP MicroServer as router / VPN / NFS and DHCP server using a second USB nic (running Raspbian 14). Love that little beauty (and sits at a load of 0.08 at 800Mhz and 224/32MB memory split)
     
  10. LTR

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    Anyone have a case recommendation? I'm finally getting mine on Monday. Probably just going to use it stand alone to mess around with programming, so I'd like to get a decent case to keep it safe.
     
  11. Origin_Unknown

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    hopefully mine will ship within the next two weeks - no idea when though
     
  12. MajorDomo

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  13. The Donut

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    A 4 year old thread necro, really?
     
  14. Ozzman

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    You brought it back to life. My how much has changed in 4 years though
     
  15. Red Falcon

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    He didn't, it was a bot post which was deleted.
    Also, you just res'ed the thread again nearly a month later, so... (y)