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R600 Inquirer Rumors

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Lord_Exodia

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sounds powerfull if this stuff holds true.

ATi's R600 board is a monster
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35708

R600 can only handle 16 pixels per clock
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35707

I like competition as things get real good for all of us. I just can't let myself get soo excited because last time it was all the same. Serious hype for R520/R580 yet after several months behind they came to the table with a great architecture that was only slightly faster than the competition.

Don't get me wrong they were awesome but not nearly as fast as I expected. Hopefully R600 wont repeat last gen.
 
as with any INQ stuff take it with a grain of salt. Although they seem to have a nack for getting stuff right before anyone else knows about it, so it may in fact turn out to be pretty close to the truth.
 
Lord_Exodia said:
sounds powerfull if this stuff holds true.

ATi's R600 board is a monster
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35708

R600 can only handle 600 pixels per clock
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35707

I like competition as things get real good for all of us. I just can't let myself get soo excited because last time it was all the same. Serious hype for R520/R580 yet after several months behind they came to the table with a great architecture that was only slightly faster than the competition.

Don't get me wrong they were awesome but not nearly as fast as I expected. Hopefully R600 wont repeat last gen.
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It's "16 pixels per clock", not 600. Now that would be a monster indeed :)
Anyway, being the Inquirer, I prefer to wait for official confirmations, but if they hold true, ATI might have a winner on their hands, although IMHO they have their greatest challenge ahead, because G80 is beast. The main problem will probably be its power consumption, which rumors say will be around 250-300W, which is insane if you ask me.
 
Seanmounce said:
Soon we'll need dedicated PSU's for our GPU's. :p
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That or they may move to those external video card enclosers that people have been buzzing about.
 
Typically when the Inq writes up a huge two-pager like that, they do it because it's certain. The specs they have posted conform with everything else we have heard from every site, so there's no reason there to doubt it.

This particular article doesn't strike me as bullshit. The closest to bullshit is the release date: ATI may be planning a Jan 30 date, but it sure won't happen (at best, availability will be shit and it'll be paper launched).

Also: "only" 600 pixels per clock lol. You may want to edit that OP, it's 16 :p
 
Silus said:
The main problem will probably be its power consumption, which rumors say will be around 250-300W, which is insane if you ask me.
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The Inquirer said:
When we turn to power, it seems the sites on-line are reporting values that are dead wrong, especially when mentioning the special power connectors which were present on the A0 engineering sample. Our sources are claiming they are complying to industry standards and that the spec for R600 is different that those rumoured. Some claim half of the rumours out there began life as FUD from Nvidia.

For starters, the rumour about this 80nm chip eating around 300W is far from truth. The thermal budget is around 200-220 Watts and the board should not consume more power than a Geforce 8800GTX. Our own Fudo was right in a detail - the R600 cooler is designed to dissipate 250 Watts. This was necessary to have an cooling headroom of at least 15 per cent. You can expect the R680 to use the same cooler as well and still be able to work at over 1GHz. This PCB is also the base for R700, but from what we are hearing, R700 will be a monster of a different kind.
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:cool:
 
With how abso-fu*king-lutly wrong they were with the nvidia rumors, I suprised that they haven't been completely discredited.
 
That write up seems like a 8 year old wrote it. I have to take this one with an ocean of salt. Doesn't seem legit whatsoever, sorry.
 
Stereophile said:
:cool:
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Didn't you read what I typed ? It's the Inq. It should be taken with more than a grain of salt. There are other rumors that say the power consumption is close to 300W. It's just a rumor, just like these ones the Inq is spreading, but a card with the rumored specs of R600, will not consume the same as a 8800 GTX. It will consume more.
 
Seanmounce said:
Soon we'll need dedicated PSU's for our GPU's. :p
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not sure if everyone remembers (how soon we forget) about hte flak 3dfx took on how the Voodoo5 6k was going to have an external powersupply...

also on how big the card was (no one would want to put that in their case)

i personally would prefer that to actually having to cram 700w PSU's into the case :)

now the power and size isn't even really an issue

finalv5-6000.jpg
 
lloose said:
With how abso-fu*king-lutly wrong they were with the nvidia rumors, I suprised that they haven't been completely discredited.
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What did they rumor the 8800s to be?
 
Russell said:
Typically when the Inq writes up a huge two-pager like that, they do it because it's certain. The specs they have posted conform with everything else we have heard from every site, so there's no reason there to doubt it.

This particular article doesn't strike me as bullshit. The closest to bullshit is the release date: ATI may be planning a Jan 30 date, but it sure won't happen (at best, availability will be shit and it'll be paper launched).

Also: "only" 600 pixels per clock lol. You may want to edit that OP, it's 16 :p
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Um, no they dont

They will post any rumor they hear, and 99% of them are wrong
 
H-street said:
i personally would prefer that to actually having to cram 700w PSU's into the case :)

now the power and size isn't even really an issue
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QFT. Power bricks for GPU's would be awesome. Reduce my PSU costs, reduce heat and possibly run a PSU with passive cooling! What could be better!
 
512bit bus. That sounds really fast. And really, really expensive. That would either mean that ATI found a cost effective way of implementing the 512bit bus, or it needed it to catch the G80. I tend to think it's the former, because the rest of the R600's specs are very impressive too.
 
Combover said:
QFT. Power bricks for GPU's would be awesome. Reduce my PSU costs, reduce heat and possibly run a PSU with passive cooling! What could be better!
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The added cost of the GFX manufacturer supplying you with a Power brick, the often times less than "adequate" efficiency of power bricks, the added cable, etc.
I am under the impression that this has been argued before.
 
Although it is from the Inq. the article seems to be dead on to what we have been hearing. If it holds true, once again ATi is at the forefront of video technology.

I am soooooo getting this card, and if Jan 30, hold out I am going to be bat shit crazy happy.
 
Silus said:
It's "16 pixels per clock", not 600. Now that would be a monster indeed :)
Anyway, being the Inquirer, I prefer to wait for official confirmations, but if they hold true, ATI might have a winner on their hands, although IMHO they have their greatest challenge ahead, because G80 is beast. The main problem will probably be its power consumption, which rumors say will be around 250-300W, which is insane if you ask me.
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Sorry bout that, mistype I have edited the original post.
 
Silus said:
but a card with the rumored specs of R600, will not consume the same as a 8800 GTX. It will consume more.
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You said it will probably use 300 watts.
You're buying into some rumors but not others ?
I'll bet R600 uses close to what an 8800GTX uses.
No way it will be 300 watts.
 
Stereophile said:
You said it will probably use 300 watts.
You're buying into some rumors but not others ?
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He only buys into the rumors that are bad news for ATi.
 
lloose said:
With how abso-fu*king-lutly wrong they were with the nvidia rumors, I suprised that they haven't been completely discredited.
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The thing about the Inq is that the closer to the product launch it is, the more likely they are to be accurate with their rumours. Which really does make sense if you think about it.

|CR|Constantine said:
Although it is from the Inq. the article seems to be dead on to what we have been hearing. If it holds true, once again ATi is at the forefront of video technology.

I am soooooo getting this card, and if Jan 30, hold out I am going to be bat shit crazy happy.
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Exactly.

Though you know very well it'll be announced on the 30th but not actually available. It's what ATI does (AMD or no AMD). Still, if they simultaneously announce it with the mid-ranges I'll be happy.
 
Russell said:
Though you know very well it'll be announced on the 30th but not actually available. It's what ATI does (AMD or no AMD). Still, if they simultaneously announce it with the mid-ranges I'll be happy.
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Who knows, the X1900 was pretty easy to get the day it came out, who says ATI cant do it again.
 
Russell said:
The thing about the Inq is that the closer to the product launch it is, the more likely they are to be accurate with their rumours. Which really does make sense if you think about it.
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By that time there is already leaked info that is reliable, I wouldn't be suprised if the Inq just goes web mongering to find thier "inside" info.
 
512bit bus! :eek:

I believe that NVIDIA counter response will be a 8800GTX with DDR4 or some kind of 8800GX2. Those who think that NVIDIA will be able to produce at the beginning of next year a 80nm or a 65nm version of their chip are too optimistic...

8800GTX is tremendously fast but only a few games can fully use its power (unless you are using a 30" screen) and I already finished those games.
My current video card is providing enough power and I can afford to wait 2 little months.

The Inquirer is not too bad. They are sometimes wrong but this has to be expected since they are providing rumors on unannounced products. Beside, the Inquirer gives us meat to discuss...
 
Stereophile said:
You said it will probably use 300 watts.
You're buying into some rumors but not others ?
I'll bet R600 uses close to what an 8800GTX uses.
No way it will be 300 watts.
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I don't believe either, until I have official confirmation. That's all I'm saying. But a card with the rumored specs of the R600 (if they are true), will not consume the same as a 8800 GTX, it will consume more. It's going to be a huge chip, even being built on 80 nm.
 
RadXge said:
512bit bus! :eek:

I believe that NVIDIA counter response will be a 8800GTX with DDR4 or some kind of 8800GX2. Those who think that NVIDIA will be able to produce at the beginning of next year a 80nm or a 65nm version of their chip are too optimistic...

8800GTX is tremendously fast but only a few games can fully use its power (unless you are using a 30" screen) and I already finished those games.
My current video card is providing enough power and I can afford to wait 2 little months.

The Inquirer is not too bad. They are sometimes wrong but this has to be expected since they are providing rumors on unannounced products. Beside, the Inquirer gives us meat to discuss...
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It's not optimistic, because there are news around (not rumors) that NVIDIA is speeding up their 80 nm fab process and they know that, if R600 is faster than the current G80, they will need to counter it with something.
Truth is, ATI has bad timing and NVIDIA is taking advantage of it, If competition was better at this point, prices would go down faster and it would be much better for us, the consumers.
 
I doubt it will consume more than 220 watts... mainly because, A: it has DDR4 Ram (which is suppose to consume a little less), and B: its built on a 80nm process (just look at the 1950pro)
 
snowysnowcones said:
I doubt it will consume more than 220 watts... mainly because, A: it has DDR4 Ram (which is suppose to consume a little less), and B: its built on a 80nm process (just look at the 1950pro)
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As I said, even on 80 nm, it's going to be a huge chip, IF these rumors are true.
 
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