Quick question about the SG31G2

[z00100]

Hey guys,

First post for me here at the Hard Forum(s).

Anyway, I'm thinking of getting a new computer since I'm donating my MSI Mega 180 to a charity. It is a slow computer, but runs UBUNTU perfectly and doesn't give me any problems.

That being said, I'm looking to get a SFF style computer. I've looked high and low and I can't seem to find anything that really gives me good performance, without busting the bank.

I've sorta narrowed things down to a GS31G2 chassis from shuttle. The only question now is the CPU. I really would like go get a XEON X3210 or X3220 (preferably the 3210). The question is that will a XEON X3210 work in the Shuttle PC?

Thanks in advance!

 

[lowteckh]

CPU Supported
CPU Type Intel Core 2 Quad / Core 2 Duo / Dual-Core / Celeron 400 serial support
CPU Socket Intel Socket T(LGA775)
FSB 800/1066/1333MHz
(1333MHz Native support)
Chipset
North Bridge Intel G31
South Bridge ICH7

The Xeon is LGA775 so maybe? Just don't expect to do much with that 250w PSU. If you want good performance why don't you just build one, this is .. [H]...

 

[z00100]

You're right,

I'm looking and something wrong.

Anyway, check this out.

http://us.shuttle.com/P2_3800W_4.aspx

It supports the XEON 3210. Now I just need to find out what chassis is being used and I'm good to go.

 

[cornelious0_0]

You're right,

I'm looking and something wrong.

Anyway, check this out.

http://us.shuttle.com/P2_3800W_4.aspx

It supports the XEON 3210. Now I just need to find out what chassis is being used and I'm good to go.

That's the SX38P2...nice box indeed...bigger brother to my SP35P2. Look into both of them price wise as there's not a LOT of performance difference and should both accept the Xeon.

 

[cbecknet]

It should support the Xeon, the best people to ask would be the Shuttle forum @ SFFTech, also don't let the 250W PSU bother you shuttles have extremely efficient PSU that can handle alot of load, check the SFFTech shuttle forum and see what thread about what shuttle PSU's can handle.

Also I second the you would be better of with a SP35P2 its about the same size as you MSI Mega 180,maybe a little taller but not as deep, the G2 chassis is smaller than your MSI.

Also why the Xeon, a Q6600 is cheaper, has a higher Multiplier and has all the same features.

Any ways check out SFFTech they have alot more info on shuttles and a active shuttle community.

 

[z00100]

What does this build look like?

Any potential caveats?

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pqWgbeCp-VKz-aBe7OvdwDw

 

[lowteckh]

110$ for ram? Go lower.. the parts you selected seem too much $ considering it doesn't include a decent PSU and video card. A simple build I did for a friend using a 780G and an athlon chip w/ 2gb of OCZs and a 400w PSU cost less than $300, think it was $280. The phenom isn't worth it at all, esp. since it's 9550 @ 2.2ghz and not black.. and costs $150. There are numerous "help me build" threads on this forum that might help. Start with an idea on a budget and what you want to do with it - the $$ on your spreadsheet is just way high imo.

 

[z00100]

The prices seem high because:

1. I am purchasing through Amazon. I can't purchase through anywhere else since 99% of the sites need an American credit card and I don't live in the good old USA.

2. I've rounded some numbers up and have added shipping costs where possible.

That being said, I am making some modifications to make things more clear.

 

[z00100]

I've made the necessary changes.

Please have a look and let me know what you guys think.

Thanks in advance!

 

[mrmylanman]

Why not go instead of the Intel, buy a Phenom 9950 black edition. I believe they would perform on par with the Q6600, and come out to about $190 on Amazon.

 

[z00100]

That's a thought,

I would like to keep this as cheap as possible for the time being, since this will be basically used for just surfing, e-mails, picasa and torrents.

But at the same time I would like to keep some avenues open for future upgradability.

I'll check it out and see how it affects my budget.

 

[lowteckh]

Just stick with an Athlon, 5400 BE for like $70 since what you mentioned isn't quad core orientated at the least. And you won't be needed anything remotely close to 4gb of ram, or high end motherboards like you are suggesting - the new DFI matxs for surfing, email, torrents...? Canadian CCs work on newegg, or try ncix. The price and specs of what you are buying for what you want to do just doesn't match up, like bringing a machine gun to a fist fight.

 

[Dangman]

In your self-build list, I saw one major problem: The PSU. Ditch it. It's a very poor PSU for the price:
http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQzNywsLGhlbnRodXNpYXN0

You can still get much better quality PSUs from Amazon.com:
Corsair 450VX 450W PSU - $70
Corsair 550VX 550W PSU - $85
Corsair 650TX 650W PSU - $95
Corsair 750TX 750W PSU - $115

Also, note that the DFI P45 motherboard you chose does NOT have onboard video. So you will need a video card for that.

Anyway, I concur with lowteckh: the quad-core CPUs you chose are overkill for your uses. And considering that you're trying to keep this as cheap as possible, the quad-core CPUs are one area where you can cut prices. The $120 E7200 or $70 E2180 is more than enough for your needs.

Also, if you're not overclocking the E7200 and Q6600 whatsoever or only need a minor OC on the Q6600, this RAM is more than enough:
Kingston 2x2GB DDR2 667 RAM - $76

 

[lowteckh]

An AMD 780G mobo, a low priced Athlon, an even lower priced PSU (a Corsair is overkill, aim for something like $50), some cheap ddr2 2GB ram is absolutely all you need and more for your uses. That's like $80 mobo max, ~$40-80 cpu, ~$40-60 psu, ~$20-$40 ram.