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LucasG

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Ok, I'm currently living in México but I'm going to live to the US in the following days. Computers are much more expensive here, so I'm going to sell my main computer and my laptop and with that money purchase through newegg the following stuff and build a new high-end gaming pc. Please check make me recommendations/suggestions. I want to buy this as soon as I arrive.

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Ok, what do you say now?

Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
$269.99

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 1066MHz FSB 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail
$369.99

Memory: OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail
$225.99

Primary Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
$94.99

Secondary Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
$94.99

Monitor: ViewSonic VG2021m Black 20" 8ms LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 500:1 Built in Speakers - Retail
$249.99

Primary Video Card: ATI 100-435805 Radeon X1900XTX 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
$392.99

Secondary Video Card: ATI 100-435805 Radeon X1900XTX 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
$392.99

Sound Card: Creative SOUND BLASTER X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail
$199.00

Case: Antec Performance I P180B Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel for durability through the majority of chassis 1.0mm cold rolled steel around the 4 x HDD area ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
$109.99

Speakers: Logitech Z-5500 505 Watts 5.1 Speaker - Retail
$263.99

CD/DVD Burner: HP 16X DVD±R DVD Burner With LightScribe, 5X DVD-RAM Write Black IDE Model dvd840i - Retail
$53.25

Power Supply: Antec TP3-650 ATX12V 650W Power Supply with Three 12V Rails 100 - 240V UL, CUL, FCC, TÜV, CE, C-tick, CCC, CB - Retail
$159.99

Mouse: Logitech MX518 931352-0403 2-Tone 8 Buttons 1x Wheel USB + PS/2 Optical Mouse - Retail
$39.99

Keyboard: Kensington 64365 Black 104 Normal Keys 8 Function Keys USB Wired Slim Keyboard - Retail
$65.99
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Suggestions, comments?
 
If you'll be gaming, you're better off building it yourself. If not, then wait for a good dell deal. If you think dell is crap, or you actually want to choose which parts you have in your comp, then build it yourself.
 
Oh my gosh, you do not need a CPU that expensive. :eek:

You don't really need one for over $300, especially for your first build. Just overclock it if you want better performance.

I also don't know exactly why you need that second 400GB hard drive.

If you really want to spend $600 on a vid card, go ahead. I don't really recommend it, but again, if you have the extra money, go ahead. I'd recommend getting a 7900gt, which usually goes for no more than $300.


You're also going to want a PSU, and a CD/DVD drive.
 
Why do you need an add-in hard drive controller?
The motherboard has 4 SATA connectors. If you purchase SATA hard drives, just plug them into the motherboard.

I would definitely not spend $1200 on a cpu. Get a E6600 conroe for under $400, and buy yourself a nice 24" widescreen LCD

*edit* The Acer 24" widescreen LCDs over at newegg may be good choices as well. There have been some problems with backlighting on the 24" dells, if I recall correctly.


The 1900XTX is way overkill for a 19" LCD.

Now, you're saving $800 on the CPU, but spending $500 more on the LCD, so net is less $300. You need a good powersupply. Get an Antec, FSP, Seasonic, or Silverstone.
Make sure the one you select can power a 1900XTX, and if you want crossfire in the future or any dual-video card setup, then get an appropriate power supply now.
A good psu will be over $120. the 600W-700W versions by the aforementioned companies would be a good choice.

Then go buy a good UPS. This is an investment and insurance policy for your expensive parts.
 
I noticed you changed the primary drive...
I'd forget the Raptor. The new Seagate drives with perpendicular recording technology offer comparable performance for much less money.
hhttp://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/barracuda-7200.10/index.x?pg=6
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=2760&p=5


I've had a Raptor for the last couple years and just now switched.

320 GB Seagate for $95.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148140

However, the rest of your decisions seem to stem around the absolute high-end, in which case, you can't go wrong with a Raptor. I prefer best bang-for-the - buck.
 
You do not need a PhysX card at this time. I recommend ditching that for now.

Will that 20" monitor be able to do justice with that video card? I recommend buying like a 7900GT and spending the rest on games. :cool:
 
Hold on, why aren't you getting a Conroe? Whats the point in spending almost $400 for an x2 4000+ when you can get a e6600 for less?
 
J Macker said:
I noticed you changed the primary drive...
I'd forget the Raptor. The new Seagate drives with perpendicular recording technology offer comparable performance for much less money.
hhttp://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/barracuda-7200.10/index.x?pg=6
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=2760&p=5


I've had a Raptor for the last couple years and just now switched.

320 GB Seagate for $95.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148140

However, the rest of your decisions seem to stem around the absolute high-end, in which case, you can't go wrong with a Raptor. I prefer best bang-for-the - buck.
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I see, it seems it competes with the Raptor X and it's really low priced. I guess I will go with that. But it has to be installed as Raid 0? Do I need a controller for this or directly with the mobo I can do it?

NokshisR2 said:
You do not need a PhysX card at this time. I recommend ditching that for now.

Will that 20" monitor be able to do justice with that video card? I recommend buying like a 7900GT and spending the rest on games. :cool:
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Why should I go with a 7900GT when I can go for a X1900XT 512MB GDDR3? I'm not understanding this. I'm sure having this card will allow me to play UT2007 much better than the 7900GT.

dingobiatch said:
Hold on, why aren't you getting a Conroe? Whats the point in spending almost $400 for an x2 4000+ when you can get a e6600 for less?
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The E6600 costs $459.00. The x2 4000 costs $379.00.

Please refer to first post on how I update what I'm choosing. Suggestions on the keyboard would be nice. Also I'm thinking on changing the audio to: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16836116013

Thanks and regards
 
LucasG said:
Why should I go with a 7900GT when I can go for a X1900XT 512MB GDDR3? I'm not understanding this. I'm sure having this card will allow me to play UT2007 at the best. (Or at least I hope so)
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Pues, si tienes el dinero, compra lo. No mas estaba diciendo de que usted deberias a comprar el 7900GT, y con el dinero adicional, compras mas juegos. Por que puedes a jugar UT2007 con el 7900GT con un configuracion alta.
 
NokshisR2 said:
Pues, si tienes el dinero, compra lo. No mas estaba diciendo de que usted deberias a comprar el 7900GT, y con el dinero adicional, compras mas juegos. Por que puedes a jugar UT2007 con el 7900GT con un configuracion alta.
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Sorry, I didn't meant to offend you. I'm just looking for once in my life to have the latest and to make it last some more time than the current stuff. :)
 
LucasG said:
The E6600 costs $459.00. The x2 4000 costs $379.00.
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No, it's not that expensive. I just got my e6600, only a few days ago, for $350 from clubit.com.
I know newegg is marking the price of the e6600 up insanely. Don't use them.
 
dingobiatch said:
No, it's not that expensive. I just got my e6600, only a few days ago, for $350 from clubit.com.
I know newegg is marking the price of the e6600 up insanely. Don't use them.
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So you say I should not build the pc at newegg.com or just get the processor at clubit and the other at newegg? :eek:

Also, is this E6600 better than the AM2 x2 4000+? And it's sould out at clubit.com

How come the Athlon 64 X2 4000+ Windsor 2000MHz HT 2 x 1MB L2 Cache costs more than the Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Windsor 2000MHz HT 2 x 512KB L2 Cache. Just because of 512KB more of cache? The price difference is 4000+ = $379.00 and 4600+ = $266.00. Help is appriciated.

Regards
 
LucasG said:
I see, it seems it competes with the Raptor X and it's really low priced. I guess I will go with that. But it has to be installed as Raid 0? Do I need a controller for this or directly with the mobo I can do it?
Also I'm thinking on changing the audio to: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16836116013

Thanks and regards
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You do not need to use RAID 0 to get good hard drive performance, in fact some may argue that the performance differences (real world) are negligable.

I applaud the decision to ditch the PhysX card. I would also suggest getting an X-Fi card with less frills, unless you are an absolute audiophile.

Perhaps the X-Fi Extreme Music version:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102188

Also, Logitech makes excellent speakers, rivalling (and many argue better) than Klipsch. Creative isn't even in the running.

Wireless speakers may be nice, but the sound quality is nowhere near that of having wires. The Gigaworks G550W is only 310W of power, and the range is from 35Hz - 20khz.
Price for these at newegg is $336.

The top heralded Logitechs would be the Z-5500 set, at a whopping 505W RMS.
Here's a review: http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-298-1.htm
The range is 33 Hz - 20 kHz, just slightly better than the Creative. They're not wireless, but they're more powerful than the Creatives, better frequency response, and they're $264.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16836121120

another set of Logitechs which have wireless rear speakers would be here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16836121133
Still, $35 cheaper than Creatives offering.

The Logitech z-5300e speakers offer 280W RMS of power, while only $115. An great replacement for the Creative G550W, while 1/3 of the price!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16836121121
 
The 4000+ has 1M cache. So AMD did not 50% price cut them like they did with the others. An Intel E6400 is faster and cheaper so either go for a 512k AMD or go Intel.
 
LucasG said:
So you say I should not build the pc at newegg.com or just get the processor at clubit and the other at newegg? :eek:

Also, is this E6600 better than the AM2 x2 4000+? And it's sould out at clubit.com

How come the Athlon 64 X2 4000+ Windsor 2000MHz HT 2 x 1MB L2 Cache costs more than the Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Windsor 2000MHz HT 2 x 512KB L2 Cache. Just because of 512KB more of cache? The price difference is 4000+ = $379.00 and 4600+ = $266.00. Help is appriciated.

Regards
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ClubIT is a good vendor. Newegg does have inflation issues on new products. I would suggest getting the E6600 if you can get it for near the same price, as it is better performance.

You are correct on the reasoning behind the 4600+ is less is because it has less L2 cache. I did quite a bit of research on the differences between 512kb L2 and 1MB L2, and I wouldn't pay the extra for the cache, as the real-world performance in gamer/enthusiast uses would be small, if any.
 
oh, and one last comment, if you haven't already heard enough from me....

I own the G5 mouse, and recently purchased a 518 mouse for a friend, and I wish I had the 518. It has the 2 thumb buttons, looks nicer, and has what appears to be a layer of clear plastic over the paint job. This will prevent the paint from wearing down over the years.

I had a MX700 for 18 months before it looked like crap because the paint was worn off, and Logitech sent me a replacement, then the paint on that one wore off. Now I have the G5, and I bet it will wear off eventually.

The Laser instead of optical makes essentially no difference, but the G5 does have the weights cartridge (I was used to the heavy cordless MX700) and I preferred the heavier feel initially.
 
Ok, post edited completly.

I'm thinking on going l33t with this, doesn't matter the price, so I'll put this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103861
It should be good, shouldn't it? And I will leave the speaker to the one I already have in the list. I can upgrade it later. (Or if my sells go higher than expected)

Also, is this mouse the one you would recommend me over the G5 Laser? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826104178

Keyboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16823102003

What do you say?
 
Woah dude if you're going to spend that much go Intel... do a search on "X6800 vs FX-62".
 
444 said:
Woah dude if you're going to spend that much go Intel... do a search on "X6800 vs FX-62".
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Actually, I just remembered I got to buy a DVD-ROM too.
 
Ok, I have updated some stuff in the original post. I think this should be my final decision.
 
Do the ATI cards need to say CrossFire ready to work on crossfire or any ati card will do?
 
Hmm.... Looks good, except I would change the following:


get the ati 1900xtx instead of the gx2 (you don't need a gx2 for a 20 inch monitor)
get this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231065 g. skill ram instead of the ocz. These g. skills have the micron d9 chips (very good chips).
get an e6600 instead of the e6400 if you are going to pay so much for everything else. Newegg dropped prices - it is not about 370 on newegg. you may be able to get one for about 350 oem at another site.
 
maplekandalf said:
Hmm.... Looks good, except I would change the following:


get the ati 1900xtx instead of the gx2 (you don't need a gx2 for a 20 inch monitor)
get this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231065 g. skill ram instead of the ocz. These g. skills have the micron d9 chips (very good chips).
get an e6600 instead of the e6400 if you are going to pay so much for everything else. Newegg dropped prices - it is not about 370 on newegg. you may be able to get one for about 350 oem at another site.
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I see the memory has some re-programming problems...

Ok guys, check it. I think that should be it, unless I do change the memory. That's the only thing left to decide I guess.
 
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