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Questions about new Computer

Is 64GB enough space though to store my applications?

Will it use up one of my Hard Drive slots? do they have 2 TB SSD? Is there larger than 64GB?

It will make my boot and OS faster?

looking forward to your responses.
 
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64GB is enough to store the OS and your more critical applications. You will probably have to install some of the larger applications onto the hard drives.

Yes it will take up a SATA port on the motherboard but not a hard drive slot in the case itself. You can stick/mount a SSD anywhere where the power cables and SATA cables will go and where the SSD can fit.

2TB SSDs do not exist yet. There are SSDs larger than 64GB out there:
$200 - Intel SSDSA2MH080G2K5 2.5" 80GB SSD
$280 - Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1CCA 2.5" 128GB SSD
$410 - Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2M160G2XXX 2.5" 160GB SSD
$540 - Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC256MAG-1G1CCA 2.5" 256GB SSD

Yes it will make your OS and applications boot, startup, and respond significantly faster than any hard drive in the world.
 
Awesome. Thanks for the detailed response. Makes perfect sense to me now.
 
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Hi, Is the Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 HDS722020ALA330 2TB 7200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive slower than a 6 gb/s drive? If it is then would it be worth it to go with a 6.0gb/s drive?
 
TechStuey05 said:
Hi, Is the Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 HDS722020ALA330 2TB 7200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive slower than a 6 gb/s drive? If it is then would it be worth it to go with a 6.0gb/s drive?
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For regular hard drives, SATA 6.0Gb/s does not mean anything. Many regular 3.0Gb/s hard drives perform the same as SATA 6.0Gb/s hard drives.
 
TechStuey05 said:
Hi, Is the Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 HDS722020ALA330 2TB 7200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive slower than a 6 gb/s drive? If it is then would it be worth it to go with a 6.0gb/s drive?
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Actually, that Hitachi 7K2000 hard drive is a bit slower than the other two brands of 2TB 7200 RPM hard drives (the Western Digital Black and the Seagate Barracuda XT). Not because of the interface - but because of its platter design: The 7K2000 actually uses five 400GB platters whereas the other two use four 500GB platters. In fact, the 7K2000 is actually slightly slower than the same company's 500GB and 1TB 7K1000C drives.
 
So is it worth it to go with 3 TB Sata 6bs/s Drives? I don't mind paying a bit more for better performance.
 
TechStuey05 said:
So is it worth it to go with 3 TB Sata 6bs/s Drives? I don't mind paying a bit more for better performance.
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Not necessarily. Especially since current hard drives continue to be limited by their physical transfer speeds. In fact, the physical transfer speed of even the fastest current hard drive barely surpasses even SATA 1.5 Gbps (aka the original version of SATA), let alone SATA 3.0 Gbps or 6.0 Gbps. As I mentioned several times, 3.0 or 6.0 Gbps refers only to the interface speed - the rate between the host controller (on the motherboard or SATA controller card) and the drive's memory buffer (cache).

And 3TB hard drives are not yet ready for prime time: These drives require GFS file system support at operating system level. And all of the current 3TB drives spin at only 5400 RPM or less. As such, all of the currently available 3TB hard drives are actually slower than the fastest of the currently available 1TB and 2TB hard drives.

Worst of all, current Intel SATA controllers built onto motherboards cannot boot at all from a physical hard drive larger than 1.99TB. This limits the use of 3TB hard drives to storage-only devices.
 
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TechStuey05 said:
edit: Sorry I meant three 2 TB Sata 6bs/s Drives?
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The only one that's currently available at this capacity point is the Seagate Barracuda XT. It is no faster in overall performance than a 2TB Western Digital Black (which still has a SATA 3 Gbps interface) because both drives use 4 x 500GB platters.
 
I appreciate the advice, It makes sense to me now, thanks.

I'd appreciate it if you guys could post the Intel i7 quad core? I would like to see the price difference and compare specs.

Do all the cases that were posted support USB 3.0 (Front and Back)?
 
TechStuey05 said:
I appreciate the advice, It makes sense to me now, thanks.

I'd appreciate it if you guys could post the Intel i7 quad core? I would like to see the price difference and compare specs.

Do all the cases that were posted support USB 3.0 (Front and Back)?
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There have been several i7 quad-cores:

Among the currently available i7-9xx quad-cores, the only ones are now the i7-950 (just under $300) and the i7-960 ($550-ish). By comparison, the cheapest Intel hexa-core CPU costs a whopping $900. These CPUs use Socket 1366 - and the only desktop (as opposed to server) chipset available for 1366 is the X58.

Several other Intel i7-branded quad-core CPUs (i7-870, i7-880 and i7-875K) use the "lesser" Socket 1156 platform, which has several chipsets to choose from (the P55 is one of the more popular choices for 1156). However, 1156 is due to be replaced by the new Sandy Bridge architecture, which will use a completely incompatible CPU socket, Socket 1155. Most but not all of the new Sandy Bridge motherboard chipsets will natively support SATA 6 Gbps; however, no more than two such ports will be provided (out of six SATA ports total); the rest will be limited to SATA 3 Gbps.

And current USB 3.0 controllers support only two ports - and both of those USB 3.0 ports are in the rear motherboard I/O panel. All other USB ports, including the front-mounted USB ports connected to the appropriate motherboard headers, are limited to USB 2.0 High-Speed.
 
Great Post! So then do you recommend that I wait until Sandy Bridge is released? I don't mind waiting another month. Just curious but could there be any issues with purchasing a new product that's just released?
 
TechStuey05 said:
Great Post! So then do you recommend that I wait until Sandy Bridge is released? I don't mind waiting another month. Just curious but could there be any issues with purchasing a new product that's just released?
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I'd recommend waiting until then before you make a final decision (unless you really need a new PC before Christmas because the current PC is so old that it can't run any currently popular program).
 
Yes, speed will depend on what you are doing. I am of the belief that the majority of people overbuy and spend too much when purchasing a computer or choosing what they need for a new build. the fact that bigger is always faster is only true to the extent that you actually tax the system
 
Will the original poster benefit from >2 or >4 cores if using Photoshop CS5? I am currently using CS5 and find it somewhat sluggish on an e6750 (intel dual core, OC to 3GHz). Also, my GPU may need an update because CS5 makes use of the newer technology found in newer GPUs
 
chrispycrunch said:
Will the original poster benefit from >2 or >4 cores if using Photoshop CS5? I am currently using CS5 and find it somewhat sluggish on an e6750 (intel dual core, OC to 3GHz). Also, my GPU may need an update because CS5 makes use of the newer technology found in newer GPUs
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Actually, Photoshop CS5 does not make much if any use of the newer GPUs. You were confusing Photoshop CS5 with Premiere Pro CS5.

Also, your system is somewhat sluggish when running Photoshop CS5 because you have been using a single hard drive for everything - not necessarily due to the older CPU and GPU. You need at least two physical hard drives for Photoshop CS5. And forget about using Premiere Pro CS5 in single-drive systems: Exporting and rendering will become excruciatingly slow in such systems, especially if that single hard drive is not particularly fast in either access speed or sequential transfer speed.
 
Hi, Thanks for the help. I have a few questions. I like the Fractal Design Define R3 Black Case. Is this case any good? does it have the specs that I'm looking for in a case? It says that I can add 8 Internal drives to it. Does that mean that I could add 8 or only what the motherboard supports? Are the fans already installed? Thanks
 
TechStuey05 said:
Hi, Thanks for the help. I have a few questions. I like the Fractal Design Define R3 Black Case. Is this case any good? does it have the specs that I'm looking for in a case? It says that I can add 8 Internal drives to it. Does that mean that I could add 8 or only what the motherboard supports? Are the fans already installed? Thanks
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That case is good. I cannot say if it meets the specs you're looking for since you haven't mentioned what specs you're looking for. You can only add up to 8 hard drives to the case. The fans are installed already.
 
I appreciate the help. I mean does it support SSD, Sata 6gb/s, the fastest memory, usb 3.0, esata, Sandy bridge, etc? Does the motherboard also have to support 8 drives in order for me to add 8 hard drives?

The Case Specs say that it has 2x 5,25 inch bays, with 1x 5,25>3,5 inch converter included. What does that mean?
 
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TechStuey05 said:
I appreciate the help. I mean does it support SSD, Sata 6gb/s, the fastest memory, usb 3.0, esata, Sandy bridge, etc? Does the motherboard also have to support 8 drives in order for me to add 8 hard drives?

The Case Specs say that it has 2x 5,25 inch bays, with 1x 5,25>3,5 inch converter included. What does that mean?
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The case has NOTHING to do with SATA 6.0Gb/s, fastest Memory, USB 3.0, eSATA, or Sandy Bridge support. That's all dependent on your motherboard. The motherboard does not have to come with 8 SATA ports initially since you can always add additional SATA ports via SATA controller cards.

It means that the you can add a 3.5" hard drive into that 5.25" bay.
 
Hi, will the Sandy Bridge CPU's be released tomorrow. Is now a good time to purchase Sandy Bridge or should I wait awhile until after it's released? What is the Intel i7 2600K equivalent too? How much will it cost? Will it fit into the Fractal Design Define R3 Case? Thanks
 
TechStuey05 said:
Hi, will the Sandy Bridge CPU's be released tomorrow. Is now a good time to purchase Sandy Bridge or should I wait awhile until after it's released? What is the Intel i7 2600K equivalent too? How much will it cost? Will it fit into the Fractal Design Define R3 Case? Thanks
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Wait a few weeks until it's been released. The $325 i7 2600K is equivalent to the $1000 Core i7 970 or 980X CPU depending on the apps and games. Yes a P67 setup will fit inside the Fractal.
 
Hey guys. I've waited a few months, is now a good time to buy a Sandy Bridge Computer?

have there been any new components released since my last post? if there have been then would you mind posting the newer Quad Core Sandy Bridge Components?

Any new cases? Previously I was interested in the Fractal Design Define.

I would like at least Seven 2 TB Internal Hard Drives.

Thank you.
 
Please re-answer the stickied "ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS FIRST!" So that we can help you better.
 
1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing? etc

Light Gaming, Web Browsing, Bit Torrent, Watching 1080p Movies, basic editing of my photos, listening to Music and Burning CD's. I plan on hooking up my Computer to my new 50" Panasonic VT25 Plasma alongside a 24-27" Monitor.

2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?

I would like to spend $2000 (more or less) including the display I plan on getting. I don't mind spending as much as $2500 if I'll get a much better system. If I could get a powerful system for $1600 then that would be good too.

3) Where do you live?

Long Island, New York

4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. The word "Everything" is not a valid answer. Please list out all the parts you'll need.

Case, CPU, PSU, RAM, Motherboard. I would like a Quad Core Sandy Bridge System (Intel i7 2600K). I would like between 8 and 16 gb of memory.

5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing? Please be especially specific about the power supply. List make and model.

My Logitech Mouse

6) Will you be overclocking?

No

7) What size monitor do you have and/or plan to have?

I plan to buy a 24-27" Monitor, (preferably a 24-25")

8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?

Next Week

9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? USB 3.0? SATA 6Gb/s? eSATA? Onboard video? etc.

I would like to have at least Seven 2 tb Internal Hard Drives to start with and I would like the ability to add an additional 2-3 internal drives (If that's possible). I would like USB 3.0 and SATA 6GB/s

10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license? If yes, what OS? Is it 32bit or 64bit?

No, I will need to purchase Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit

Any help is greatly appreciated
 
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What particular Logitech mouse are you reusing?

Why do you want an i7-2600K when you're not planning on overclocking?

Why do you need Windows 7 Ultimate?
 
I have to agree with tiraides here: If you're not overclocking, zero reason for the 2600K. Not to mention that your usage scenarios don't really show a need for HT, the one big feature that the Core i7 2xxx CPUs have over the Core i5 2xxx series CPU. As such, you'll be fine with the Core i5 2400.

TechStuey05 said:
I would like to have at least Seven 2 tb Internal Hard Drives to start with and I would like the ability to add an additional 2-3 internal drives (If that's possible).
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Are you planning on using this PC as a file server as well? Are you planning on having 14TB of data without backup of said data? What's with the need for 14TB of storage?
 
Hi, how much cheaper is the Core i5 2400 vs the i7 2600k? If there's not that much difference in price then I would like to go with the more powerful system.

I have eight 2 tb external hard drives that are filled with music and movies. I want to copy the data to the internal drives on my new computer so I can have a second backup.

I'm unfamiliar with what a PC as a fileserver means :(.

I use bit torrent a lot so the ability to add more internal drives in the future is important to me.

Do they have 3 TB Internal Drives?

Thanks
 
The Core i5 2400 is at least $120 less than the Core i7 2600K.

Seagate sells 3TB hard drives but they're more expensive than the 2TB drives.

A file server is simply a networked computer that you store files on.
 
Hi, sorry about that.

What particular Logitech mouse are you reusing?

I own a logitech G5 Corded Mouse which I will be reusing.

Why do you want an i7-2600K when you're not planning on overclocking?

I guess for speed, a more powerful computer. But if it will only benefit me if I overclock then I guess it's not worth it?

Why do you need Windows 7 Ultimate?

No particular reason, I guess cause it has the most features. I never used Windows 7 before, only Windows Vista and Snow Leopard.
 
TechStuey05 said:
Why do you want an i7-2600K when you're not planning on overclocking?

I guess for speed, a more powerful computer. But if it will only benefit me if I overclock then I guess it's not worth it?
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It's only gonna benefit you if overclock AND do extensive video editing/rendering and/or 3D editing/rendering/modeling and/or extensive music editing/rendering. You're not doing any of that so the 2600K is a not a good buy for you
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Why do you need Windows 7 Ultimate?

No particular reason, I guess cause it has the most features. I never used Windows 7 before, only Windows Vista and Snow Leopard.
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Yeah I'm willing to be you're not gonna have use a quarter of the features of Windows 7 Ult. So stick with Windows 7 Home Premium as well.

Oh and will you be needing a DVD drive as well?

Since you're planning on having a ton of storage, I highly recommend that you build a separate file server. It's definitely gonna cost more but it's gonna be an overall cleaner solution than having close to 20TB of hard drive space crammed in a regular PC case.
 
Thanks for the help. I'll take your advice and stick with the Core i5 2400 and Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit.

Yes, I would like a dvd drive..... or perhaps a blu-ray drive?

How do I build a separate file server? How much will it cost?

I appreciate your help
 
Hmmm, now that I think about it, a file server might be too complicated for you. If you're fine being maxxed out around 15TB to 16TB of storage:
$360 - Intel Core i5-2500K CPU + Asus P8P67 Intel P67 ATX Motherboard
$164 - 4 x G.Skill Ripjaw Series F3-10666CL9S-4GBRL 4GB DDR3 1333 RAM
$235 - XFX HD-695X-ZNFC Radeon HD 6950 1GB PCI-E Video Card
$240 - Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CW120G3K5 2.5" 120G SSD
$70 - Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
$700 - 5 x Hitachi Deskstar 0S03230 3TB 5400RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
$21 - Samsung SH-S222AB SATA DVD Burner
$105 - Corsair 750TX V2 750W PSU
$127 - Fractal Design Define R3 Black ATX Case
$200 - Asus VE248H Black 24" Widescreen LCD Monitor
$100 - Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM
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Total: $2322 plus tax and shipping

Notes:
- I went with that mobo since it was the cheapest LGA 1155 mobo out there with 8 SATA ports. Using a seperate dedicated controller wasn't that good of a option since a lot of the sub $100 storage controllers are of low quality, didn't support 3TB drives, had a bad price to port ratio, have crappy drivers or all of the above. With that CPU + mobo combo, it was only $60 more than a Core i5 2400 + Asus mobo combo deal that I found earlier. IMO, that extra $60 is justified since a crappy two port SATA controller is around $25 to $30 whereas that two port Marvell 9120 controller on that Asus is of higher quality. In addition, the 2500K and that mobo would allow for overlcocking later when the OP is more confident about his system. And that Asus P67 mobo is of higher quality than the Asus H67 mobo from that i5 2400 combo deal. So $60 more for a higher quality controller, overclocking capability and higher overall mobo quality is well worht it.

- I included a SSD as that will dramatically improve the performance of the PC. The Samsung was included since it's a very fast drive and thus a good place to install any large sized programs that'll take too much space on that SSD.

- Those 5 x 3TB drives will get you 15TB of storage.
 
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Thanks. How much Memory should I get? I live not too far from a Micro center, should I purchase the parts there? or through Newegg? The main operating System will be installed on the SSD right? Instead of a DVD drive should I go with a Blu-ray drive (since I'll be hooking up this computer to my Plasma TV (as well as my 24" monitor)?

Does this video card have 2 HDMI ports so that I could hook it up to both my Plasma TV and Monitor?
 
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TechStuey05 said:
Thanks. How much Memory should I get? I live not too far from a Micro center, should I purchase the parts there? or through Newegg?
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Buy the CPU from Microcenter. If you can get Microcenter to price match Newegg on the mothebroard, then get the motherboard from MC. Besides those parts, get the rest from Newegg
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The main operating System will be installed on the SSD right?
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Correct
TechStuey05 said:
Instead of a DVD drive should I go with a Blu-ray drive (since I'll be hooking up this computer to my Plasma TV (as well as my 24" monitor)?
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IMO, no considering your level of technical expertise and the fact that if you want anywhere close to Blu-ray playback, you have to spend another $100 on blu-ray playback software. That's gonna total up to $160 altogether for the software and Blu-ray drive. You can easily find a seperate dedicated blu-ray player for around that much
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Does this video card have 2 HDMI ports so that I could hook it up to both my Plasma TV and Monitor?
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If you had bothered to look, you could easily see that the card does not have two physical HDMI ports. And no, there's no gaming capable video card with two HDMI ports. However you can probably use a DVI to HDMI adapter with the above video card.
 
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