Question about 3600C16

[mateyman]

As you guys know their are lots of 3600C16 timings, my question is: Won't 3600 16 19 19 39 be same performance as 3600 16 16 16 36 if they are both at the same speed regardless of b.die? Obv the b.die 3600C16 will OC better but if strictly XMP, its same performance right?

By performance I am really talking about avg fps, frametimes, % lows, etc...

I don't know why I am under impression that b.die ram has better frametimes and % lows which makes games more smooth. I would understand this because b.die can OC better so you can get some tighter timings or higher speed which in theory should boost fps,lows, frametimes in CPU bound situations but if we are talking about b.die vs non b.die running same speed especially 3600C16 (19 19 19 39) vs 3600C16 (16 16 16 36)

 

[primetime]

As you guys know their are lots of 3600C16 timings, my question is: Won't 3600 16 19 19 39 be same performance as 3600 16 16 16 36 if they are both at the same speed regardless of b.die? Obv the b.die 3600C16 will OC better but if strictly XMP, its same performance right?

By performance I am really talking about avg fps, frametimes, % lows, etc...

I don't know why I am under impression that b.die ram has better frametimes and % lows which makes games more smooth. I would understand this because b.die can OC better so you can get some tighter timings or higher speed which in theory should boost fps,lows, frametimes in CPU bound situations but if we are talking about b.die vs non b.die running same speed especially 3600C16 (19 19 19 39) vs 3600C16 (16 16 16 36)

honestly i see no point in obsessing over 1 or 2 fps (if even then)....99% of the time for most of us our gpu is the limiting factor unless your playing lowest settings at 480p....
its impossible to say what timings and speed ram will run stable at with a particular board until its tried anyway......if your pc is bullet proof stable then enjoy the games

 

[kirbyrj]

Those sub-timings are so close that you wouldn't notice a difference in real world testing. You might notice a very slight difference in synthetic tests, but it would likely be a fraction of a percent.

You would get exactly the same performance between the two.

There really hasn't been a good reason to pay the "B.Die tax" since 1st gen Ryzen. Pretty much any RAM will work and work well in subsequent generations up to 3000-3200Mhz on Zen+ and 3600+ on Zen2.

 

[pendragon1]

what he said ^^^

 

[mateyman]

So I ended up going with 16gb 3200C14 b.die for my R5 3600 CPU. Is it possible to OC them to 3600 16-16-16-36? Or 3600 with some looser C16 timings like 16 18 18 38 or 16 19 19 39?

 

[kirbyrj]

So I ended up going with 16gb 3200C14 b.die for my R5 3600 CPU. Is it possible to OC them to 3600 16-16-16-36? Or 3600 with some looser C16 timings like 16 18 18 38 or 16 19 19 39?

Probably. I would say there's a pretty good chance it would work at that speed unless you really lost the silicon lottery.

 

[Retsam]

So I ended up going with 16gb 3200C14 b.die for my R5 3600 CPU. Is it possible to OC them to 3600 16-16-16-36? Or 3600 with some looser C16 timings like 16 18 18 38 or 16 19 19 39?

I just bought a new system myself with B450 and 3700x ryzen. At first when i was memory shopping I was obessing over the b-die thing because I did a little research seeing people say how great it is. After actually doing some research and checking out benchmarks, you will find the fps difference from like cl14 or 16 and 3200 vs 36000, is negligible. Insignificant and pointless to worry about. I was about to pay $120-130 or whatever it was for b-die and ended up with some g-skill 3600 cl16 non b-die kit for like $82.

To answer your question, b-die 3200 cl14 can most likely hit 3600 cl14 or 15 as well. Just sayin. You got what you paid for, but is 2-4 fps more worth $50 difference in price? I would say no...