+1 on this.
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Quality of Dell PSU
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+1 on this.
Most component failures in OEM machines are a result of poor cooling design and insufficient maintenance. It is not because of the quality of the components. If you added a fan or two to those Dell machines and cleaned out the dust from inside them regularly, I guarantee you that they would have a significantly longer lifespan. I can also tell you that if you treated your own PC the way those machines were treated, it would probably suffer the same fate.
Alex is clearly a TROLL, no OEM is going to use more than what is required to power said system. Dell uses mostly Delta and Hipro OEM's, which are some of the best
despite the rambling of Alex without merit. I Work for a smaller Corporation that deploys 500-700 Dell Workstations, and several closets of servers, I can tell you from personal
experience they are very reliable in direct comparison to some of the competition. Him calling a PCB "Plastic orange board" should tell you the extent of his Technical Knowledge
and his know-how of semiconductors/circuit design.
despite the rambling of Alex without merit. I Work for a smaller Corporation that deploys 500-700 Dell Workstations, and several closets of servers, I can tell you from personal
experience they are very reliable in direct comparison to some of the competition. Him calling a PCB "Plastic orange board" should tell you the extent of his Technical Knowledge
and his know-how of semiconductors/circuit design.
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Regardless of how well the PSU is built, it's still a used unit and PSUs no matter how well they are built will last a lifetime. Spend the money on a new unit with a warranty.
yes the Thermaltake Tr2 series are also good psus on paper. Please show me a review showing that's a good psu.
I would not trust a mate charging me for something he's got extra supply of. Then to throw a 15usd bait on top of it. What's he going to do with that 15usd that gets his value back. that's not even enough for 10 min at the crack den
CYA. If you don't know what that means, look it up.
The TR2 PSUs are not good on paper. And if you don't trust your friends, you need to find new ones. He's asking for $15 because he's doing the OP a favour, not because he's trying to make a bunch of money off of this.
I don't know what your expecting from a company that mass produces a product for the
average consumer, not the enthusiast. Dell builds a configuration and calculates the power
draw, and pairs the appropriate power supply for the given build. They don't care about
your upgrade path as 99% of people that buy dell pc's will never upgrade major components
before replacing the whole machine. If you're concerned with upgrade-ability your looking in
the wrong place, They market pc's mostly to the average consumer, not to most people that
frequent this forum.
Dell telling you that you need more power when you replace a major component not in
their options is a great thing, at least they give you the heads up. I'd rather know that
the psu isn't adequate, and upgrade it, before risking other components.
I used to do lots of replacement part repairs for the Government as a contractor. Most of the failed Dell PSU's I encountered was from crappy big building power surges or massive amounts of dust. I even found a frenchfry stuck in the cooling vent of a PSU. Didnt effect cooling but how the hell did a French Fry get there?
PEBKAC
LMAO, if that isnt true about 99% of the time with people~!
Uberbob102000
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He's doing him a favor because, you know, he's a friend. I charge my friends next to nothing for my computer stuff all the time, just to cover a bit of the cost. I feel like you must have trust issues with your friends... I think it may be time to figure that shit out cause I know I trust my buddies pretty much with everything I own.
And, as has been mentioned, the TR2 series is definitely not good on paper.
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Marketing can make anything look good on paper. That's why you don't look at marketing, you look at the actual system components used.
And +1 to getting new friends, you have serious issues with your friends if you can't trust them.
+1 also to most people not knowing how to take care of their systems. I tell my 13 year old sister repeatedly to occasionally clean out the filters on her P180 case (room computer is used in gets dusty quick). Come back after 3 months, it's a total nightmare. I doubt any air was moving through those filters.
Also, just to add, I had to look up what CYA and PEBKAC meant. Just like I had no idea what RTFM meant when MSI forums sent out that massive spam e-mail for April Fools Day (and it wasn't even on April Fools Day, it was a few days early).
And +1 to getting new friends, you have serious issues with your friends if you can't trust them.
+1 also to most people not knowing how to take care of their systems. I tell my 13 year old sister repeatedly to occasionally clean out the filters on her P180 case (room computer is used in gets dusty quick). Come back after 3 months, it's a total nightmare. I doubt any air was moving through those filters.
Also, just to add, I had to look up what CYA and PEBKAC meant. Just like I had no idea what RTFM meant when MSI forums sent out that massive spam e-mail for April Fools Day (and it wasn't even on April Fools Day, it was a few days early).
Got a Dell XPS 600 here, still going strong with original components after 5 years. The PSU is a 650W custom job which I can't upgrade and would probably have difficulty replacing, but since I'm doing a new build from scratch in a few days it doesn't bother me 
Dell Optiplexs we use at work are a different matter. Not built to last would be a generous assessment.
Edit: The XPS will be gifted to a family member and will likely last a few more years judging by previous form!
Dell Optiplexs we use at work are a different matter. Not built to last would be a generous assessment.
Edit: The XPS will be gifted to a family member and will likely last a few more years judging by previous form!
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I have an optiplex 780.
It came with a 'high efficiency 80+ bronze' 600W psu.
I replaced it the day the machine came with a 450W inwin psu because after putting in extra hdd's, it would not post.
My personal experience with Dell PSU's has always been one of hate. No love/hate. Just hate. One of my first memories of dell psu's is plugging one into my ECS K7S5A and having it die because dell was not using atx standard at that time, even though they used exact atx conenctors.
It came with a 'high efficiency 80+ bronze' 600W psu.
I replaced it the day the machine came with a 450W inwin psu because after putting in extra hdd's, it would not post.
My personal experience with Dell PSU's has always been one of hate. No love/hate. Just hate. One of my first memories of dell psu's is plugging one into my ECS K7S5A and having it die because dell was not using atx standard at that time, even though they used exact atx conenctors.
Dell PSU's are not that good. They go bad all the time. I just recently replaced 3 Dell PSUs from systems ranging in age from 2 to 6 years. Fortunately, the PSUs didn't take the rest of the system out at the same time they kicked the bucket. I'd seriously consider avoiding the Dell PSU regardless of manufacture. Get an Antec Earthwatts 380D. Get any reputable PSU. Dude, just don't put a Dell in there.
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I call bullshit, why would they replace the processor? That's one of the last things to fail.
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that kind of shows their quality, bad PSU take systems with them when they die, good PSU's dont.
Again,i would love to know where these computers were kept, temperature, how dirty, any added parts?\
i have had my share of dells from cheap $300 systems to $1000 rigs pass through our office, running 24/7 and i have yet to have any die, not to mention them being shipped from dell.com down to costa rica in central america.,
We've been a Dell shop since about 1993 now. The quality of their power supplies has varied greatly over the years, depending on the model and spec.
Old Dimension models (XPS R through the 4550) were pretty reliable.
I've never found an OptiPlex power supply that I've liked. Even the fans in them were cheap and prone to rattle.
Newer Dimension models (XPS excluded) tended to be pretty awful as well. The ones used in the Dimension 2300/2350/2400/4600 were simply some of the worst units out there, down there with the Bestecs that HP loved to shovel in their cheap machines. Not sure who built them anymore, but they weren't good!
Newer XPS models along with the Precisions that I've been buying since about 2003 have nearly always been very good-quality Delta and Hipro units; this has been pointed out already. I haven't seen as many of the "home" models in the past 6 or 7 years, but on their workstations, the power supplies are extremely reliable.
And some of my rigs work in very hostile, machine-shop type environments that kill cheap PCs with a quickness. An old Precision will chug away for years in that condition.
Just a bit of first-hand experience to add to the discussion...
Old Dimension models (XPS R through the 4550) were pretty reliable.
I've never found an OptiPlex power supply that I've liked. Even the fans in them were cheap and prone to rattle.
Newer Dimension models (XPS excluded) tended to be pretty awful as well. The ones used in the Dimension 2300/2350/2400/4600 were simply some of the worst units out there, down there with the Bestecs that HP loved to shovel in their cheap machines. Not sure who built them anymore, but they weren't good!
Newer XPS models along with the Precisions that I've been buying since about 2003 have nearly always been very good-quality Delta and Hipro units; this has been pointed out already. I haven't seen as many of the "home" models in the past 6 or 7 years, but on their workstations, the power supplies are extremely reliable.
And some of my rigs work in very hostile, machine-shop type environments that kill cheap PCs with a quickness. An old Precision will chug away for years in that condition.
Just a bit of first-hand experience to add to the discussion...