Puma is out

Discussion in 'AMD Processors' started by maxius, Jun 4, 2008.

  1. maxius

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    So amd has been busy today the Puma platform is finally set free. this is a huge win for amd they can offer a good platform experience that will be unmatched

    links below

    http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208401890

    http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/06/04/amd_puma_laptop_platform/

    also i saw some comments on what amd is going to do about the nano and atom. apparently amd is pulling the wait and see approach though their is a small umpc with a Turion ultra x2 running at 900mhz makes you wonder a bit :)
     
  2. xBanzai89

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    I'm going to pick one of these up. I'm hoping one of the options will allow me to maybe get a 3850 mobility if its cheap enough.
     
  3. maxius

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    yeah this will be my notebook when systems comes out also to note ait's Xgp external pci-e 2 gfx all i can is i am very interested in this.
     
  4. JediFonger

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    i am also most interested in swappable GPU when it comes to laptops! =D. we already know most of the CPUs can be upgraded... now u can do both on a given platform =D.
     
  5. pxc

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    First Puma platform (p)review: http://www.notebookjournal.de/praxis/81/1

    It's in German, so babelfish it or just look at the summary on page 5. Battery life is meh, and gets much worse when the external GPU is enabled. And not too surprisingly, performance still lags behind mobile Core 2 chips.
     
  6. JediFonger

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    have u seen the pix for the "external" GPU? holy cow that's basically a standard pci-e card housed in an external enclosure, that's HORRIBLE!!! wtf?

    i thought it was going to be like nv's interface. a tiny little card that fits INSIDE the notebook, this thing is just as big as the notebook ITSELF!!!!

    i say this is epic fail.
     
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    I'd rather have a desktop card housed in my casing than a smaller product that has to go into the notebook. Unplug it when you go mobile, plug it back and and enjoy a full-powered desktop card for gaming while at home. If it goes into the notebook it's just the same as the other upgradeable GPU options that have been out for years now, you're at the mercy of the manufacturers basically. Tiny little cards are always compromised in some way.
     
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    Anyone got some pics of XGP?
     
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  12. maxius

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    hmm very impressive this goes to show my next notebook may just be amd and replae my desktop
     
  13. baddog121390

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    ATI already has "little tiny cards" that fit inside the notebook. The advantage of using the external video card is that you can upgrade them, which you can't do with the internal cards.
     
  14. maxius

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    tool shed the xgp is for when you want to use a discrete card say at home so you do not need a separate computer you dock your laptop plug in the card and volla you are gaming with out having a big bulky cpu on a big display even with using a standard mouse / keyboard ... this is epic its going to be an epic success
     
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    someone answer this: Does this mean an XPG enclosure could take a standard PCI-E Vid Card? If so, EPIC SUCCESS if not, eh still cool but I'm sure XPG cards will be more expensive and or crippled compared to their desktop internal PCI-E counterparts.
     
  16. maxius

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    YES pci e 2.0
     
  17. alg7_munif

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    Yay, nice (p)review without any game benchmark or video playback benchmark :rolleyes:

    On the bright side, they didn't managed to get the Hybrid Crossfire working. :eek:
     
  18. Sojuuk

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    so are these getting hybrid crossfire support?

    cause thats what laptops need IMO.
     
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    If you can read german, from the 2nd page of the (p)review:
     
  22. JediFonger

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    why not have a full powered desktop card ON THE GO? tiny cards needs to be made to be the same performance and speed as desktop counterparts. i get puma, low-power on battery, and full powered when plugged. that can still be achieved.

    the purpose is to make the entire thing mobile, not add weight, which defeats the purpose of having laptops in the first place.

     
  23. Josh_B

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    If you think there's a laptop out there that could dissipate the kind of heat a full-sized high-end video card puts out, then you're mistaken. Have you considered the power requirements for a full sized card? Why do you think it's necessary to plug in TWO power connectors in addition to the power provided by the PCIe slot? Why do we need two-slot sized-coolers?

    AMD's approach is perfect... take your laptop to work and get some spreadsheets going, then bring the unit home and play some games. If you're all about games, then either get a laptop with SLI or a high-end ATI card in it, but you'll never get the same performance as a high-end desktop or the same battery life as a laptop using integrated graphics.

    This compromise is hardly a bad solution... there's no Intel laptop that can do the same! (Yet)
     
  24. Jakalwarrior

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    I think this will be useful for more than just laptops. I can see this being worked into desktops too. It would be easier to sell video upgrades if you didnt have to put it inside the computer and know that your PSU is powerful enough etc...
    Plug and play external video cards that are self powered. Plug it up, run install CD, play crysis. Kids getting them for christmas, middle aged men buying them to play AOC and see boobies, etc...
     
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    when will I be able to purchase a laptop that supports xgp?
     
  26. [H]exx

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    Its all good and nice if you can fit a PCIx 2.0 card in an enclosure, etc. but what about power to it? Will it pull from the lappy or an external power adapter?
     
  27. paleh0rse

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    I believe that it may require its own AC adapter, but don't quote me on that.
     
  28. xcorat

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    I think AMD is got a huge hit here. most people do not use laptop for gaming. Plus, you will not be able to play high end games at good fps and still manage to have 3hr battery life. So their approach is perfect.
    Having a IGP that can do HD movies perfectly fine. And something that can play crysis around 20fps????
    Now that is somthing...!!
    http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/amd-780g-chipset-review.ars/4

    And the introduction of externl PCIx definitely will lead to more advanced architecture for "external GPUs". more people will start making those, maybe inc. nvidia...!
     
  29. bfellow

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    ... Or you could go with an AMD laptop with the mobile 8800GTX without forgetting your enclosure with video card inside.
     
  30. Lost!

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    If you prefer a scalding hot MXM module that saps battery life in an hour and makes the notebook look like Big Bertha The Twentieth, you're set.

    Laptops ARE supposed to be mobile. Gaming laptops totally disregarded that.