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PSU Upgrade

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XSNiper

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I have looked at some of the other posts about this but i'm not certain still. I need to find a PSU that is -$100 and will work with the following

1. A64 3500 939
2. Chaintech VNF4/Ultra PCIE 939
3. X800XL PCIE 256mb
 
The inquiry was for a good power supply under $100 dollars.

I am suggesting one for $82.

This is a savings of $18.

Hence, "Let me save you some money"
 
gottes said:
The inquiry was for a good power supply under $100 dollars.

I am suggesting one for $82.

This is a savings of $18.

Hence, "Let me save you some money"
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Except that supply isn't ATX2.0 like the blue storm and a amp's short of the blue strom.
 
My post had nothing to do with your post. I was suggesting a good, true tested power supply for a small savings to the $100 dollar budget, not a savings to your $92 suggestion. That's fine if you prefer the Fortron Blue Storm. I was just giving my opinion.
 
gottes said:
My post had nothing to do with your post. I was suggesting a good, true tested power supply for a small savings to the $100 dollar budget, not a savings to your $92 suggestion. That's fine if you prefer the Fortron Blue Storm. I was just giving my opinion.
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but its not a valid argument because the truepower doesn't have pci-e connectors, a true 24pin setup, and the dual rails to support sli (even though the forton shouldn't be recognized as a true sli setup.)
 
Although you seen to have settled on the FSP Blue Storm and it would be $3 over your $100 budget... would you consider the Seasonic S12 Series ATX12V 2.0 430W ? You may want to take a look at this PSU. Unless the bling of the Blue Storm and the extra $10 bucks or so have you set on the FSP. This is a link to a recent review done by a respected reviewer. Check it out.
 
LyL18 said:
Do these come sleeved?
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No, but if it makes any difference, the molex connectors are gold-tipped. I also found a review for it where under full load, the 12v rail stayed completely solid at 12.04 measured with a multimeter.
 
shadowbreaker513 said:
No, but if it makes any difference, the molex connectors are gold-tipped. I also found a review for it where under full load, the 12v rail stayed completely solid at 12.04 measured with a multimeter.
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Check the version on that. I have seen pic's of sleeved ones that I think were the 14cm. I will know soon for sure though since i plunked down and ordered one for shits and giggles.
 
Doesn't really matter much anyway. It costs like 10 bucks for sleeving stuff, and should be easy as hell as the cables aren't attached to anything. Also, if you're just gonna mess around with it; I'll buy it from you when you're done!
 
shadowbreaker513 said:
Doesn't really matter much anyway. It costs like 10 bucks for sleeving stuff, and should be easy as hell as the cables aren't attached to anything.
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I have all the stuff to sleeve it here if it isn't. Some people though don't feel comfortable doing anything even as minor as that......me.....well I am from the days of having to solder my kits together so.......

Also, if you're just gonna mess around with it; I'll buy it from you when you're done!
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Maybe but it depends on how much I like it :D
 
Damn thing moves a hell of a lot of air too. The bottom is 150mm across. It uses a 140mm fan. All the sides are metal mesh. That thing will never get hot.
 
Aspire bad....bad...news. The Coolermaster though is really good. ATX2.0 active PFC.....good supply.
 
XSNiper said:
Here are some more supplies that I need an opinion on.
http://www.xoxide.com/superflower-ttgi-plug-n-550w-ps.html
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Just ordered this one, no real known reviews but TTGI is a good ocmpany. I can let you know my impressions in a few weeks or so.

http://www.xoxide.com/coolmax-cr-500b.html
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Crap

http://www.xoxide.com/ocz-modstream-450w-modular-psu.html
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Good but short main atx cable. Silentpcreview did a review on it's big brother the 520w. You should read it.
 
Cool, I look forward to hearing from you because it looks like i will either get the BlueStorm 450 or the Superflower 550..I am also keeping an eye on the Coolermaster 450 which dropped ~$20 on newegg. :)
 
What were the calculated amps per rail that will be more important than the total wattage as the PSU could have a good chunk of power dedicated to a rather useless(for your setup) rail or be an outright lie in the case of crappy units.
 
The other calculator i tried calculated about 15.5A on the rail but I think those two I just mentioned can handle that..I really can't afford to overkill
 
No,no the budget is exactly the same it's just that would'nt it be a better idea getting a higher quality supply instead of buying one that thinks its 500W or so..? If this is'nt the case and say..the BlueStorm is a dam good psu and the Enermax is the same. I will gladly get the BlueStorm. I'm just not sure the 12V rails on it will handle my upgrade.
 
XSNiper said:
No,no the budget is exactly the same it's just that would'nt it be a better idea getting a higher quality supply instead of buying one that thinks its 500W or so..? If this is'nt the case and say..the BlueStorm is a dam good psu and the Enermax is the same. I will gladly get the BlueStorm. I'm just not sure the 12V rails on it will handle my upgrade.
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Any of the three will handle what you posted in the first post. That being said the biggest difference I can see other than PFC on the blue storm is the life span reported. So here are the factors:

Antec: +12V1@17A, +12V2@17A, 80,000 hours, 430w, $89
Enermax: +12V1@18A, +12V2@18A, greater than 100k hours at 70% of full rated load, 420w, $76
Fortron: +12V1@15A, +12V2@15A, 100,000 hours at maximum load at 25ºC ambient, 460w according to manufacturer, $90 bonus: Passive PFC

That being said for the money the Enermax may very well be the PSU for you.
 
I found a really neat PSU here and I read something in one of the sticky's about it:
Purepower Butterfly 480W

Does anyone know if this has the power to power my future system
A64 3500
MSI K8N Neo4 Plat
x800xl pci-e
3 led fans
1 temp control
1hdd,1 dvd-rom,1 cd-rw, 1 floppy
1 cathode 12"
A2ZS soundcard
 
XSNiper said:
I found a really neat PSU here and I read something in one of the sticky's about it:
Purepower Butterfly 480W

Does anyone know if this has the power to power my future system
A64 3500
MSI K8N Neo4 Plat
x800xl pci-e
3 led fans
1 temp control
1hdd,1 dvd-rom,1 cd-rw, 1 floppy
1 cathode 12"
A2ZS soundcard
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Is http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-153-012&depa=0 that what you were talking about?

That Tt Purepower Butterfly unit is an ATX1.2 PSU. Meaning a 20 pin main mobo connector, no SATA connectors, and no PCI-e connectors.
You need an ATX2.0 compliant PSU with the 24 pin main mobo connector, PCI-e connector, SATA connectors and dual +12v rails.

Other than that, you'd need to do the math and see how much amperage you need on each rail and compare those specs against prospective ATX2.0 units. Pay close attention to the +12v requirements.
 
Don't get the TT PurePower Butterfly if you've got an A64 or Prescott and using a PCI-e video card.

I mean, it's a good power supply if you're using a Socket A or an AGP video card, but it can't handle hard loads for a long time. It looks really cool with the changing colored lights, provides good clean power, but not STRONG power for any prolonged period of time.

That's just my two cents. All due respect to Thermaltake. E for Effort. I'm waiting to see Butterfly 2.0... The ATX12V version. ;)
 
Ok I re-calculated my Wattage requirements BUT there is a major flaw in my understanding. The final reading was
3.3V line MAX
7.6A or above

5V line MAX
9.9A or above : **very important

12V line MAX
17.6A or above : **very important

3.3 + 5V combined MAX
74.7W or above : *important

3.3 + 5 + 12V combined MAX
286.8W or above

total output 296.8W
or above


OK, now this does say I need ~18A on the 12V line. But before i was assuming this meant that it was for EACH 12V line. Now through just basic sitting and thinking I have come to an assumption that it means TOTAL of BOTH 12V lines...is this correct? If it is I have $100 to spend on a PSU and i can wait a few weeks to get $130-50 but I don't think it's necessary. And I love lights! :p I was looking straight at the Fortron BlueStorm 500W after this but if anyone can hook me up with something cooler go ahead
 
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