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Project: Smooth Soyo

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Project Smooth Soyo
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(I'm currently taking suggestions for better names -- PM me or post them below! I'll ask a mod to rename the thread if I find something really exceptional.)

The Intro:

I, like so many here, bought a 24" widescreen LCD, the Soyo DYLM24D6 at OfficeMax a little while back. It's a P-MVA panel which is amazing at the price, it doesn't ghost too much (there's some compared with the 5ms Samsung TN I came from, but it's tolerable) and it's gorgeous color-wise save in comparison with my oldschool CRTs... and it's far lighter than them.

My problem with it? It's ugly. Not insanely, hideously, ridiculously, "I'm embarrassed to own it" ugly, but... enough to bother me, a lot. So I decided to do something about it. Here's a stock photo, so those of you who don't own one or aren't familiar with them can properly appreciate what we're up against, here:

lcd-stock.jpg


I'm building the Soyo a new enclosure, and a new stand to match. Probably going to buy it one of the Ergotron Neoflex stands and tear that down to use as a base.

I have plans.

Have I ever used plexiglass/acrylic for anything? Ever? No. Have I ever done a really ambitious mod before? No. Have I ever even opened an LCD monitor before? No.

Go big or go home, kids. Go big or go home.

A classic color-scheme to go with my new Lian Li V2000B Plus II -- black, black, more black. The occasional clear or smoked gray accent piece. The end result should be something I won't get tired of any time soon. I suspect the plexi alone for this is going to rack up some serious cost, especially since I'm almost certain to screw up a sheet or two in the process (and a few will have to be extremely large...) but it's something I want to do to say I did it and because it'll be mine, not to save cash on a nicer looking 'out of the box' LCD. Plus I like my Soyo, and it seems as if I got one of the "good ones." Not going to tempt fate any further. ;)


Part 1 -- Disassembly and Documentation

With great trepidation I started pulling screws and very carefully keeping track of where they came from. I've only got a vague idea of what I want to do so far as the enclosure, and to go farther I have to know about the internal structure of the display and the various components, as well as what kind of mounting frame or bracing I'll have to fabricate, if any. I also need to get an idea of how much of this thing is just plastic, and exactly how much plexi I'm going to need for certain pieces.

I removed the six larger flat-headed screws holding the (horrible) stock stand on along with the 4 large (but shorter) flat-headed screws that cover the holes for the standard ISO square mounting point that the Ergoflex will eventually make use of. I also took all the smaller "wood" type screws out from around the outer edge and popped the plastic casing off with a small flat-head screwdriver. Below is the result.

lcd-open.jpg


And another angle:

lcd-open2.jpg


From here it just gets worse so far as my low-level panic, but I did it anyway. It's a lot like watercooling for the first time...

I pulled more of the "wood" type screws from around the edge of the internals where they were held to the bezel and pulled the wires for the speakers from their plastic clip terminals (which almost came off in the process, damnit). These screws suck -- some nearly stripped out, but I was very careful. I also removed the two screws holding the PCB with the power switch and the state indicator LEDs because I had zero desire to try and get the gigantic plastic snap connector it used to connect with the bulk of the control circuitry loose. Once everything was free of the bezel I very carefully lifted it away and set it (yes I'm working on my bed -- I'm at college, there aren't many places to work where the screen won't get scratched. ;)) beside the bezel. This was the worst part by far, as the power circuitry for the backlighting, and aside from the metallic tape the OEM used, the main control circuitry as well, were literally free-floating on the back of the panel at this point. I didn't remove the buttons from the side of the bezel as I didn't want to leave it all taken apart right now, but that will be easy once it's necessary, and then there will be nothing connecting the panel and electronics to the old bezel. Here you go:

lcd-nobezel.jpg


To prove it still works in this state I lifted it up and took a picture (one-handed) of the screen showing the output from my laptop. Here's the background it's showing just for comparison purposes:

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And here's the shot of the panel itself displaying the image with its bezel completely removed -- sorry for the poor picture quality, it wasn't an easy shot to take without help and is entirely out of focus. The blue tint is due to bad lighting and the color reflecting off the sheets -- it's working fine. Gladly.

lcd-worksnobezel.jpg


I then mounted everything up on the front bezel, which is key to keeping it properly aligned until I can build a replacement "rim" for it. Got the laptop connected to it again to test, and it still works perfectly, so my "exploration" didn't kill it yet. (Note: the odd looking spot isn't anything wrong, it's a combination of JPEG compression and the effect of the metallic tape under camera flash -- and yes, I'm making it show a picture of its own guts. :cool:)

lcd-worksreassembled.jpg



Part 2 - Coming soon.
 
I'm looking forward to this. Good monitor mods are rare. Good luck to you!
 
I have the same bed-sheets and monitor!

Wooo

Only bad part about the Soyo is the ugly monitor bezel... and quality control, but I got a good one :D
 
awesome. after you do yours, can you do mine? :D jk ;) :D

Doubt you were serious, but if it goes well enough I'm actually considering doing this "by commission" style of thing. Granted, it'd have to turn out /really/ well, so it's entirely too early to see.
 
Doubt you were serious, but if it goes well enough I'm actually considering doing this "by commission" style of thing. Granted, it'd have to tun out /really/ well, so it's entirely too early to see.
lol nah i was serious, but i'd have to get 2 soyo's first to consider it. no point in having 1 pretty soyo and 1 ugly one :D

ps this mod will remove teh speakers totally right? :)
 
i can't wait :). if you use plexiglass that is pretty nice. i saw someone else's mod that used that :)

I'm reasonably sure I've seen another LCD plexi mod as well, but I don't intend to go in an overly typical direction with this. It's still pretty vague in my head, design-wise, but I should get a better idea this weekend after I can go pick up some material to mess around with and see how various things are going to look.

All I know is, there's a ton of very careful Dremeling and hours upon hours of sanding, and potentially polishing, in my future. Gah.

It's probably going to be a multiple week type thing, as I seriously doubt I'll be able to source all the different kinds of plexi I want locally between Home Depot, Lowes, and Hobby Lobby. This is mostly due to my early designs already calling for some farly thick (1/4"+) pieces.
 
...it's looking like $70+ in raw materials alone right now. A bit more than I'd expected, to say the least.
 
looking great more pics soon please :)

I'm just waiting for plexi in the mail right now. I intend to build the replacement metal "alignment frame" in the next couple of days, and there'll be pictures for that, but I doubt they'll be very exciting.
 
Doubt you were serious, but if it goes well enough I'm actually considering doing this "by commission" style of thing. Granted, it'd have to turn out /really/ well, so it's entirely too early to see.

Thats how it all starts. You do a mod, then one for a friend, then someone PM's you asking you to do it for them, and you're where I am :p.

/subbed.
 
Update:

I suck so bad at SketchUp. It must be too intuitive or something -- all those years of teaching myself 3DSMax and Lightwave working against me yet again.

Seriously, it took me ~10 minutes to make a curved surface, and despite using a copy of one of the curves I want to attach to (which were all copies of the same curve to begin with, just rotated...) it doesn't fit. I think I give up on this, and may just make it out of clay or something. 3D is the only thing I'm better at in 'real life' than on the computer. Figures.
 
Minor update: a few shots of the Sketch-up model of the new bezel, mostly to prove just how bad I am with this seemingly easy to use program. Gah... (Oh, and for the record this is /not/ how it looks in my head.)

badbezelmodel1.jpg
badbezelmodel2.jpg
badbezelmodel3.jpg


Any suggestions here? I don't want it to look too crazy (no giant stormtrooper helmets, no scale models of the empire state building with the panel as one side). I've considered trying this "curved front" thing, but I've also considered a more sharp, angular look which should be a lot less difficult to build up, but might not look as good... Something with bits of shined up steel bracketry "peeking" through intential gaps between the various sheets of black plexi, maybe with some blue or white LEDs (sanded to diffuse light a lot) inside -- with a switch to turn them off if they get annoying. Ideas?
 
Most backlights light up on both sides - think of the apple logo on macbook. If you feel brave enough to make some small cut-outs in the big bracket on the back, you could let a lot of light through. Either way, all those frame pieces could be painted.
 
Most backlights light up on both sides - think of the apple logo on macbook. If you feel brave enough to make some small cut-outs in the big bracket on the back, you could let a lot of light through. Either way, all those frame pieces could be painted.

A good thought, but I do not have $280+ to throw down on a new LCD if I kill this one, so cutting in to it is, unfortunately, out of the question.

Another small update on the shaping/design bit -- I think I may drill a few holes along one side of a sheet, screw it down on to an approximate wooden model of the bare panel and freehand it with some gloves and a heat gun. Go big or go home. ;)
 
Got my black plexi sheets in the mail today. I'll be working on a plug and press form for the two sides of the front piece tomorrow and likely Saturday, and try to get everything pressed and formed Saturday and Sunday.
 
Mod kind of got put on hold indefinitely due to all the crap my machine/motherboard has been giving me. It is scheduled to resume some time in the next couple of weeks, but I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't get finished until near the end of April. It has been slow going, I can only really work on it on the weekends, and I do have other things I'd like to be doing. ;)
 
Bummer on the rig going down, judging by the posts you did on my Striker Extreme bios question, I'm assuming you fell victim to a 680?
 
Bummer on the rig going down, judging by the posts you did on my Striker Extreme bios question, I'm assuming you fell victim to a 680?

I suspect that I've been through more boards than most here.

I've had:
EVGA 680i SLI SE -- Worked great with my E6420 -- got it up to 3.7Ghz. Then I got a quad -- X3220. Worst decision I've made in some time. It would run stable at stock but wouldn't OC at all. Couldn't even do 3Ghz. Sold the board to someone running a dual.
XFX 680i LT -- First board was defective, fried instantly when I installed my second 8800 GTX after running fine for a couple weeks. Decided I didn't want to play that game anymore. It did get my X3220 to 3.4Ghz though.
Abit IN9-32X MAX -- Hated the quad, would barely run 3.1Ghz stable. Sold it.
MSI P7N Diamond -- Single most frustrating experience I've ever had with a motherboard / BIOS. USB bugs the likes of which I haven't seen in years. Occasional instability at stock. Lackluster OCing due to really cryptic BIOS settings (interger values no one knows the meaning of for voltages -- WTF?) and an over all immature BIOS. This board has huge potential, but in its current form, it sucks. Pure and simple. Got Newegg to let me return it after purchasing an XFX 780i.
XFX 780i -- Yet to arrive, but hopefully the answer. Here's hoping I don't end up selling this and my RAM to replace it with a 790i Ultra. I have no desire to spend that much on a board. Ever.
 
I suspect that I've been through more boards than most here.

I've had:
EVGA 680i SLI SE -- Worked great with my E6420 -- got it up to 3.7Ghz. Then I got a quad -- X3220. Worst decision I've made in some time. It would run stable at stock but wouldn't OC at all. Couldn't even do 3Ghz. Sold the board to someone running a dual.
XFX 680i LT -- First board was defective, fried instantly when I installed my second 8800 GTX after running fine for a couple weeks. Decided I didn't want to play that game anymore. It did get my X3220 to 3.4Ghz though.
Abit IN9-32X MAX -- Hated the quad, would barely run 3.1Ghz stable. Sold it.
MSI P7N Diamond -- Single most frustrating experience I've ever had with a motherboard / BIOS. USB bugs the likes of which I haven't seen in years. Occasional instability at stock. Lackluster OCing due to really cryptic BIOS settings (interger values no one knows the meaning of for voltages -- WTF?) and an over all immature BIOS. This board has huge potential, but in its current form, it sucks. Pure and simple. Got Newegg to let me return it after purchasing an XFX 780i.
XFX 780i -- Yet to arrive, but hopefully the answer. Here's hoping I don't end up selling this and my RAM to replace it with a 790i Ultra. I have no desire to spend that much on a board. Ever.

I hope that I got one of the "blessed" P7Ns and I'm able to run out of the box like many of the members of the XtreamSystems forums...

P.S. Check your PM
 
I hope that I got one of the "blessed" P7Ns and I'm able to run out of the box like many of the members of the XtreamSystems forums...

P.S. Check your PM

Last time I ever recommend anything without first hand experience. Any questions you have feel free to ask -- hopefully it was my chip as much as anything, and you'll do better with a Q6600.
 
Last time I ever recommend anything without first hand experience. .

Yeah sorry to hear that P7N Diamond was such a bad experience for you. Man, thought that mobo would actually be a good one.

Oh BTW, Dan_D, the mobo editior here, has got you beat: He's been through 11 680i mobos within the past two years or so.
 
Oh BTW, Dan_D, the mobo editior here, has got you beat: He's been through 11 680i mobos within the past two years or so.

Yeah, but I've done 6 (first 680i LT was bad) in the last ~3 months. :(

Yeah sorry to hear that P7N Diamond was such a bad experience for you. Man, thought that mobo would actually be a good one.

It has massive potential... but I've not seen such a horrible BIOS get to market in the last 5+ years, and that's including the latest betas, 3 months after release. That's pathetic. MSI should literally be ashamed.
 
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