Problems as a result of Overlocking

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Cyraxx

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Specs:
eVGA 680i SLi Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 Processor
Corsair 2GB (2x1GB) of PC8500 RAM
eVGA 8800GTX

Originally when I put together my system at defaults, everything was running smoothly, but lately decided it was time to see what my parts were capable of. I started out small, increasing my processor speed slowly, and eventually got up to 3.2ghz.

Even at 3.2ghz, everything was stable for days, but only in the last 2 days did I everything decide to crap out on me.... I would receive random lock ups while only playing World of Warcraft that would require a restart over and over again. I figured it was time to revert back to defaults until I could find something stable.

Upon resetting my BIOS back to default, I can no longer get it to POST (well, maybe it is posting I have no idea), but the main thing is that my screen will not come out of power save mode, and I get two POST codes from my motherboard both of which I have no idea on.
1D - Early PM Early PM initialization
and currently beeping over and over for the last 5 minutes...
C1 - Memory Presence - Base memory detect

both of these, I have no idea what they are, and have no idea what the problem is. Any help in this would be greatly appreciated as right now, I am completely clueless :(

EDIT: Wow, I removed 1 memory module and everything decides to work, can anyone explain this? If i swap memory modules and take the other one out and put the other one in, it still works fine. I am clueless here now too =(
 
Cyraxx said:
Specs:
eVGA 680i SLi Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 Processor
Corsair 2GB (2x1GB) of PC8500 RAM
eVGA 8800GTX

Originally when I put together my system at defaults, everything was running smoothly, but lately decided it was time to see what my parts were capable of. I started out small, increasing my processor speed slowly, and eventually got up to 3.2ghz.

Even at 3.2ghz, everything was stable for days, but only in the last 2 days did I everything decide to crap out on me.... I would receive random lock ups while only playing World of Warcraft that would require a restart over and over again. I figured it was time to revert back to defaults until I could find something stable.

Upon resetting my BIOS back to default, I can no longer get it to POST (well, maybe it is posting I have no idea), but the main thing is that my screen will not come out of power save mode, and I get two POST codes from my motherboard both of which I have no idea on.
1D - Early PM Early PM initialization
and currently beeping over and over for the last 5 minutes...
C1 - Memory Presence - Base memory detect

both of these, I have no idea what they are, and have no idea what the problem is. Any help in this would be greatly appreciated as right now, I am completely clueless :(
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have you tried contacting evga? their tech support is pretty good, if not just RMA your board, I paid for tha ear thing from them and I got my board next day, that was stupid fast.
 
check out the edit to my post if anyone knows that.

Thanks for the tip but I think im going to wait to see if it can be fixed through the great minds of [H] users. RMAing the board leaves me with nothing but this worthless laptop for 2 weeks But what do you mean by ear thing? You got them to ship first or something?
 
Check your manual or the eVGA web site support for a list of the Beep codes, there should be a pattern to the beeps or just continous beeps (which is normally a memory issue) and see what it says the problem is.

You might try reseating you video card just for grins.

If you overclocked your video card there should be a key sequence you can use at boot to restore factory clock speeds. Try that too as you power up.
 
Cyraxx said:
check out the edit to my post if anyone knows that.

Thanks for the tip but I think im going to wait to see if it can be fixed through the great minds of [H] users. RMAing the board leaves me with nothing but this worthless laptop for 2 weeks But what do you mean by ear thing? You got them to ship first or something?
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their Ear program allows you to pay a small fee for cross shipment, depending on how fast you want your board dictates the price of the fee, for example, I picked 2nd day or next day for $11.00 so now for the lifetime warranty of my board and my video cards, if I have an issue with the boards, I just do an advance Rma, they ship your board first (with whatever option you picked, in my case next day) they also pay for the shipping of the old board back to them, so I am not without a computer while I wait for my board to get there, for them to check it and then send me a new one, they send you a new fast, they pay for shipment on the other one, everyone is happy. :p
 
Run Memtest 86+
First on each stick by its self then on both sticks together.

Do you get any error.

It sound like when you reset the bios the memory was set to the wrong speed/ voltage.
Altering the memory stick updated/ changed the bios setting for it.

Luck ............. :D
 
Cyraxx said:
EDIT: Wow, I removed 1 memory module and everything decides to work, can anyone explain this? If i swap memory modules and take the other one out and put the other one in, it still works fine. I am clueless here now too =(
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When you cleared CMOS, resetting your BIOS to defaults, it also reset the voltage on your RAM to default. Now most likely your RAM is set to very tight timings in its SPD code (which tells the motherboard what it should set the timings to) but unfortunately, the SPD cannot adjust the voltage the motherboard supplies to the RAM. So your RAM is probably trying to run at timings it can't quite handle at default voltage. Taking out one of the modules forces the motherboard to run single channel instead of dual channel and makes it easier for the 1 stick of RAM to handle those tight timings with not quite enough volts to them. Anyway, that's the basics of it.

Try bumping up the voltage to the RAM a bit and you should be fine.
 
Astral Abyss said:
When you cleared CMOS, resetting your BIOS to defaults, it also reset the voltage on your RAM to default. Now most likely your RAM is set to very tight timings in its SPD code (which tells the motherboard what it should set the timings to) but unfortunately, the SPD cannot adjust the voltage the motherboard supplies to the RAM. So your RAM is probably trying to run at timings it can't quite handle at default voltage. Taking out one of the modules forces the motherboard to run single channel instead of dual channel and makes it easier for the 1 stick of RAM to handle those tight timings with not quite enough volts to them. Anyway, that's the basics of it.

Try bumping up the voltage to the RAM a bit and you should be fine.
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Thanks! Got everything up and working properly as far as RAM goes, now a new problem (and a possible answer as to whats causing the previous problem) has risen. Twice randomly while playing with WoW out of the blue i just get a BSOD that says "BUGCODE_USB_DRIVER" Stop 0x000000FE. No idea on this either *sigh* This goes with the random crashes as I was having as when im running WoW it randomly hangs until I restart the computer, with only an overclock to 3.2ghz. Unless im doing something improperly I have no idea what I can do :confused:

The oddball part of that is when i say it hangs, the whole system hangs to a certain extent becuase I cant do or click anything, but I can still move my mouse just as normal. But anyways, im going to leave everything at defaults for a while to make sure its the overclocking thats causing the crashes. And if it is the overclocking causing the crashing, would that mean im doing something wrong ? Everyone always tells me how 3.2 isnt shit for an E6700. That and my temps dont indicate getting to hot either, always ~50 C.
 
Okay - Now I know I REALLY need help, I decided to test the stability of a 3.0ghz overclock, so i load up orthos and push start with defualt settings, 3-5 SECONDS into the test, BAM I get the "BUGCODE_USB_DRIVER" BSOD, just to make sure it wasnt a one time thing I restarted and it did the same exact thing. Any ideas? :(
 
ok that should be good... what USB devices are you using?

sounds like a possible corrupt driver, i would reinstall my usb drivers.
 
lets see...
USB Keyboard (Logitech standard Keyboard, not a G15 or anything)
Plantronics Headset
Logitech G7 mouse and thats it.

I just got done formatting windows with fresh downloaded drivers and the same results have been reoccuring. But anyways, heres the best recap I can come up with of my experiences:

First and foremost when I got these upgrades, I ran everything at default, after I got everything straight with my OS and such I decided it was time to see where I can go. I began overclocking based on some other users help. But I still was confused by many things (many settings have very little description), I got to ~3200 when my stability issues were hitting, my voltages were fine and adjusted appropriately, but my research and everyone else indicated 3.2ghz is NOT too far and something else was wrong. I confirmed this in that my Intel Thermal Analysis tool told me my E6700 while under full load was only 50 C.

So i went a little bit lower again, still random crashes were occuring constantly. The majority of the crashes were while I was playing World of Warcraft where at ANY given random point the system simply hangs completely until I restart it, yet the mouse was still moveable. And lately but not occuring as often, I get a BSOD that says "BUGCODE_USB_DRIVER" Stop 0x000000FE. None of these I have any idea how I can fix or what the problem is. Along with this USB BSOD right before these hiccups Ive had my USB keyboard become bugged out where pushing keys would do the wrong thing, and this woudnt be fixed until restarted or the system stabalized.

Anyways, I seem to have excessive problems, does anyone have any ideas to the cause of these problems, and if theres a fix? Or if I should just RMA and get a new board?
 
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