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Possible Radeon 4970 specs

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POPEGOLD

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Reading the Tea Leaves

here are the 4970 specs

Ati Radeon 4970

40nm process
800 MHZ core
2200 MHZ RAM
1000 Steam Processors
32 ROP
512 bit Bus
1 GB DDR5
 
IF this is true, and I do mean ... 'IF' then that sounds awesome!
 
Insider info, educated guess, or pull pulled out of your ass? ;)

Well your tea leaves do at least have a reasonable chance of being correct, but why guess about it now when the 4870x2 has not even launched yet, and we have nothing to go on?
 
UtopiA said:
4970?
Wouldn't it be a "5870"?
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You must be new to the video card scene. Let me explain how it works. Its 4970 because its a refresh of the 4870. Usually high clock speeds and in this case a bigger bus and more stream processors.

Ever since the 7800's and X1800's both ATI and Nvidia feel the need to do a refresh of there cards a couple months after the release of the initial series. There was the 7800 in the summer 2005, then the following winter the 7900's came. 7900's included a 512 VRAM and higher clocks. I think the pixel pipelines were the same. The X1800 was also released in 2005 and then the following winter the X1900 came. X1900's had the same memory VRAM just mostly higher clocks. The 8800's came next in 2006 and in October the next year(2007) the 8800 GT came which was the G92 core which led to the 9800/9600 series in 2008. ATI responded to the 8800's with the 2900 series but this series really blew and they had to come out with a whole new generation of cards which ended up being the 3000 series.

Now we are in a new generation, the GT200's and the 4000's series and so naturally we need a refresh:D:p
 
Lazy_Moron said:
You must be new to the video card scene. Let me explain how it works. Its 4970 because its a refresh of the 4870. Usually high clock speeds and in this case a bigger bus and more stream processors.
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Well no one said anything about it being a "refresh". It seems as if only Nvidia is responsible for "refreshing" cards these days. Does that make the 4850 a refresh of the 3850? Mehhh...

Looks like an entirely new card based on the details. You don't have to be condescending.
;)
 
Lazy_Moron said:
You must be new to the video card scene. Let me explain how it works. Its 4970 because its a refresh of the 4870. Usually high clock speeds and in this case a bigger bus and more stream processors.

Ever since the 7800's and X1800's both ATI and Nvidia feel the need to do a refresh of there cards a couple months after the release of the initial series. There was the 7800 in the summer 2005, then the following winter the 7900's came. 7900's included a 512 VRAM and higher clocks. I think the pixel pipelines were the same. X1800 was also released in 2005 and then the following winter the X1900 came. X1900's had the same memory VRAM just mostly higher clocks. The 8800's came next in 2006 and in October the next year(2007) the 8800 GT came which was the G92 core which led to the 9800/9600 series in 2008. ATI responded to the 8800's with the 2900 series but this series really blew and they had to come out with a whole new generation of cards which ended up being the 3000 series.

Now we are in a new generation, the GT200's and the 4000's series and so naturally we need a refresh:D:p
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Yeah you contradicted yourself there.

Yeah in the past NV or ATi would of called their cards the 49xx or 8900 series, but 2900xt was a failure, and instead of calling RV670 the 2950xt (and it was almost identical in makeup) they called 3870/50. At this time nvidia had already produced cards based on the G92, they had decided to keep the 8800 series number, because g92 was to help fill out the lineup, okay, w/e G92 didn't increase performance much. But because of ATis move (Which I think was stupid, and has since screwed up their linear progression of both GPU codenames and product names), NV decided to call their flagship G92 chip the 9800 instead of the 8900. Then 3 months later, had to waste the "9800 series" and make up a new naming scheme, which I don't like because it neglects their lower priced offerings.

Watch nvidia one up ATi in a few months, then ATi one up nvidia with another die shrink of an almost identical chip, with minor optimizations, and call it the 5870, then we get to start all over again.
 
GORANKAR said:
Insider info, educated guess, or pull pulled out of your ass? ;)

Well your tea leaves do at least have a reasonable chance of being correct, but why guess about it now when the 4870x2 has not even launched yet, and we have nothing to go on?
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I'll go with the third option ;)
 
Simpson5774 said:
Watch nvidia one up ATi in a few months, then ATi one up nvidia with another die shrink of an almost identical chip, with minor optimizations, and call it the 5870, then we get to start all over again.
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cant wait, i hate the lull where there's no speculation , nothing to discuss about except some released hardware .
 
wolf2009 said:
cant wait, i hate the lull where there's no speculation , nothing to discuss about except some released hardware .
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Don't worry, this is going to be a short generation because nVidia is now playing catch up and no doubt scrambling. Will they be about to compete against the 4870x2 this fall? Probably not but I love the competition, I hope that they can surprise us.
 
POPEGOLD said:
Reading the Tea Leaves

here are the 4970 specs

Ati Radeon 4970

40nm process
800 MHZ core
2200 MHZ RAM
1000 Steam Processors
32 ROP
512 bit Bus
1 GB DDR5
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Good job pulling some random numbers out of your ass. Now please GTFO until you actually have some real information.
 
Clearly speculation, same specs as existing cards, but faster. A decent guess.
 
i dont think they will save the 5800 name for the R800 core...

the 4970 will probally just be the same 4870 but at 40nm with higher clocks

no need to push too hard when nvidia has no answer for a while.... keep most of the engies working on the r800
 
Zero82z said:
Good job pulling some random numbers out of your ass. Now please GTFO until you actually have some real information.
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so speculation of coming hardware is so horrible a crime that life in prison isnt harsh enuff huh ?
 
It's a crime when you're just blatantly making shit up. Instead of "possible" Radeon 4970 specs, you should have titled the thread "imaginary" Radeon 4970 specs.
 
Yeah those numbers are whack. First off 512bit bus would be crazy overkill. They're using the slowest speed GDDR5 they can get now and still have to much bandwidth.

1GB of memory kind of makes sense but that should be based more on what resolution your monitor is than anything else. Unless you're doing the high res AA/AF thing 1GB is somewhat pointless.
 
I cannot see them going with a 512-bit memory bus anytime soon, not with the potential of GDDR5.
 
POPEGOLD said:
Reading the Tea Leaves

here are the 4970 specs

Ati Radeon 4970

40nm process
800 MHZ core
2200 MHZ RAM
1000 Steam Processors
32 ROP
512 bit Bus
1 GB DDR5
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I think you been smoking those tea leaves. that card wouldnt be a refresh and it would have to be 5800 series. also the 512bit bus is overkill as already been mentioned.
 
maybe i did smoke the tea leaves....yeah the 4970 will more likely be just a shrink...cooler temps and faster clocks
 
Somehow I knew it was POPEGOLD sitting around all day making these threads :)
 
Yeah, if that was true, which I highly doubt. Though I would love a 512 bit and GDDR5 but I don't see that happening soon, but who knows?

Remember the leaked specs of the 9800 GTX? Speculations also included a 512 bit and GDDR5 as well.
 
looks like i got the 4870x2 preivew thread locked.. why am i so controversial?
 
It won't be called 4970.
It won't have a 512-bit bus.
It will have a hell of a lot more than 1000 SPs.

In other words, I wouldn't make tea with whatever leaves you're using ;)
 
RADEoN said:
because you're annoying and post incorrect information.
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How can something i post ..that i state is speculation...be INCORRECT

and if this type of things annoys u u really need to lighten up a bit
 
trinibwoy said:
It won't be called 4970.
It won't have a 512-bit bus.
It will have a hell of a lot more than 1000 SPs.

In other words, I wouldn't make tea with whatever leaves you're using ;)
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this made me lol. Who knows maybe for him tea = crack

honestly though, i think that 512bit bus isnt something we will see soon. I think maybe next gen or after that. I guess next gen would go to faster gddr5's. And capitalise on that. So maybe in 2 generations.

Hmmm now that i've mentioned it do you guys think that once gddr5 becomes cheap and abundant they'll backtrack to lets say 256 bit bus or is their architecture optimised around the wider lanes? Which one is more cost effective? Increasing bandwidth by increasing the lanes or memory speed?
 
POPEGOLD said:
1000 Steam Processors
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Steam processors are so much better than gasoline processors. I hear tell that NVIDIA's already making the leap to hydrogen processors, though!

aZn_plyR said:
Somehow I knew it was POPEGOLD sitting around all day making these threads :)
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I especially like reading his pro-NVIDIA threa...oh, wait. Shit.

Leepox said:
Which one is more cost effective? Increasing bandwidth by increasing the lanes or memory speed?
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It's a good question. Coupling GDDR5 with a 256-bit bus is likely more cost effective, but somewhat more risky. Coupling GDDR3 with a 512-bit bus is likely less cost effective, but there's little chance of supply issues.
 
phide said:
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It's a good question. Coupling GDDR5 with a 256-bit bus is likely more cost effective, but somewhat more risky. Coupling GDDR3 with a 512-bit bus is likely less cost effective, but there's little chance of supply issues.
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Pffft, c'mon! I wanna see a card with a 1GB bus with 2gigs of GDDR5! 2000 stream precessors, 1GHz core speed and 3.2GHz memory!

Oh but one can dream can't they?;)
 
phide said:
Steam processors are so much better than gasoline processors. I hear tell that NVIDIA's already making the leap to hydrogen processors, though!


I especially like reading his pro-NVIDIA threa...oh, wait. Shit.


It's a good question. Coupling GDDR5 with a 256-bit bus is likely more cost effective, but somewhat more risky. Coupling GDDR3 with a 512-bit bus is likely less cost effective, but there's little chance of supply issues.
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i am very pro Nvidia!!!!
 
Here's a rumor I heard: GTX290 specs

480 stream processors
192 texture units
750 MHz core clock
2500 MHz shader clock
consumes 1 kW
 
Since we are pulling numbers out of the aether, im going to guess

Shaders: 800
Memory: 4.5ghz
Core: 925mhz

That will be the 5870. I am predicting Nvidia wont catch up for the next gen and ATI will just shrink / clock up the current gen. The gen after that I am not even going to guess for.
 
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