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Possible New System

mt_100

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Wanted to get opinions on a build I am considering. The total price is what I am looking to spend but I am not sure it will be the performer I hope it to be.

Thoughts?

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler $36.99
OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W $79.99
AMD Phenom 9600 Agena 2.3GHz Socket AM2+ 95W Quad-Core $99.99
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 $44.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31000333AS 1TB 7200 RPM $89.99
SAPPHIRE 100260SR Radeon HD 4850 X2 1GB 512-bit $259.99
ASRock N68PV-GS AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 7050 Micro ATX $54.99
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $59.95

Subtotal: $726.88
 
Yikes...out of all those components I'd keep... the ram and the case, the rest is rubbish. Read the sticky and answer the questions so we can help you.
 
Here are the answers to the questions, didn't even notice them but I like the idea. I assume no one likes the AMD CPUs anymore and although I have built with them for years, Intel is an option.
Thanks for the tip on the PSU, I will make the change.
Is there something wrong with the graphics card I selected? I thought the 4850x2 was a good card?

1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing? etc
General home use and gaming.

2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?
>$800 total

3) Where do you live?
49423 zip code

4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. Please be very specific.
All parts, complete build

5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing? Please be especially specific about the power supply. List make and model.
Hauppage TV Tuner card, multi slot card reader

6) Will you be overclocking?
No

7) What size monitor do you have and/or plan to have?
19" normal now and 24" wide later

8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?
Next two months

9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? etc.
Nothing specific

10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license?
Yes, Windows XP and Vista Buisiness
 
GIGABYTE GA-MA770-UD3 AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128376&Tpk=770 $75

AMD Phenom II X3 710 2.6GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Processor Model HDX710WFGIBOX - Retail $120

or

AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 Kuma 2.7GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 95W Dual-Core black edition Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103300&Tpk=7750 $60

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
$5 off w/ promo code EMCLNNP29, while supplies last
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122 $46

Western Digital Caviar Green WD6400AACS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (bare drive) - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136298 $70

LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model GH22LS30 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136153 $26

SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801 $200

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042&Tpk=antec 300 $60

BFG Tech LS SERIES LS-550 550W Continuous @ 40°C ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.8 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817702008 $80

Total before S&H $607 or $667

A single 4870 1 GB can easy handle a 24" display and no need for aftermarket heatsink. If you don't plan on overclocking.
 
Is Crossfire worth it? I have a 4850 I could get a second of and use Crossfire but really not convinced it would be worth it.

I like the system you put together. Anyone know how it would compare to the one in my sig?

Is quad core worth it on AMD or Intel?

I put together one on Newegg with an Intel CPU as well but it was a bit more but not much. AMD V Intel is still a question.

XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler $39.99
BFG Tech LS SERIES LS-550 550W Continuous $79.99
LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH22NS30 $22.99
Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 Wolfdale 2.8GHz LGA 775 65W $119.99
Western Digital Caviar Green WD6400AACS 640GB 7200 RPM $69.99
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard $99.99
SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 $199.99
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $59.95
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 $44.99
Subtotal: $737.87

Knock $39.99 off for the XIGMATEK since I don't OC.
 
My thoughts on Crossfire and SLI:
Markyip1 said:
Just some info on SLI / Crossfire: It's absolutely not worth considering if a) you're gaming at a resolution under 1920x1200 (as you'll see no performance benefit over a single card,) and b) if you plan to buy one card now and another later. SLI / Crossfire as an upgrade path is usually a very poor idea, as by the time you're ready to get that second card, a new single card solution will likely be available that will outperform two of your older cards in tandem. Furthermore, there really is no cost benefit to the SLI Upgrade Route, as any additional cost in getting the new card can be easily mitigated in most situations by selling the original. By avoiding an SLI / Crossfire solution when it will not be of benefit, you gain a cooler running, simpler to maintain system and more importantly, access to a much better (and broader) selection of motherboards.

lt_shiro's PC would outperform your sig PC very well. However I do not think that the X2 7750 would be a huge jump in performance to justify the cash.

Oh and ditch the Green drive (probably slower than the Blue 640GB):
Western Digital WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $75

For the Intel build, swap out the Gigabyte mobo for this mobo instead:
Gigabyte GA-EP43-UD3L Intel P43 Motherboard - $80

Also spend the extra $5 more for this equally performing video card but with lifetime warranty:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130372
 
7750 Kuma is about as fast as my current e6400 overclocked to 2.7 GHz.

amd_7750_3dm_fc2.gif

Source
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?o...=view&id=10921&Itemid=40&limit=1&limitstart=2

Kuma is best in its price class, once you are not overclocking the CPU.
 
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