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plext output down

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rshands

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Looks like the aussie's are hurting. Plext's output has fallen way off. To bad for folding and too bad for the aussies. Hopefully it is a temporary problem. Plext has not posted in their forum about it yet.

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It's only been 2 days that his output has been down. Perhaps he's got a large P4 farm, and all of 'em got stuck with those nasty 70 point tinkers that take three billion years for P4's :/
 
if that is the case, imagine the dump that stanford is going to get when those machine start to complete....
 
It is summer over there so they're experiencing the same thing we do every summer. Heat and rising AC costs. I'll have to cut back quite a bit this summer as there's just no way my Apt can handle all the machines I've added. It's 10 deg out and all my windows are open to compensate. Actually need to put the window fans back in now because the wind is so calm.

In the mean time our team is compensating with lots of new members like they did over their winter. :)

Fold On!
 
You'd be spot on if plext was getting all that performance down under. I'm pretty sure he's getting some, if not all, of his GHz in the UK.
 
come on plext... show me the "WU"
... sure hope this is just a temp. downage... I figure badg3r or somebody would stop by and say something if it isn't.
 
There is no word in the OCAU forums, so who knows! Hopefully he is just away from the office for a couple of days, and a gateway or something went down.
 
If it was a permanent decline, he would have probably anounced it already. Hopefully, he'll be up and running at full production soon.
 
Originally posted by SilkenRogue
It's only been 2 days that his output has been down. Perhaps he's got a large P4 farm, and all of 'em got stuck with those nasty 70 point tinkers that take three billion years for P4's :/
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true it can often take 18 hours if I remember on my 2.4@3.5...unfortunately today they were having server issues and my amd 1600+ xp got a 70 point tinker...It will be done in 48 hours!!!!

Yeah 70 point tinkers are not optimised well for P4's....But my p4 loves those 60 point gromacs as it destroys my 2100+ @ 2.08ghz and even more so when I ran the 2 instances and drew the same 2 proteins for both....

A p4 farm of HT cpus with gromacs will crush....
 
Originally posted by rshands
Plext's output has fallen way off.
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I have a bad feeling plext isn't the only one that lost production. It's just more noticeable with plext because he has so many machines. Stanford had a full disk over the weekend that was supposed to be keeping track of Tinker WUs. :(

You'll want to read this post:
http://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?p=53840#53840

ChelseaOilman
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Originally posted by ChelseaOilman
I have a bad feeling plext isn't the only one that lost production. It's just more noticeable with plext because he has so many machines. Stanford had a full disk over the weekend that was supposed to be keeping track of Tinker WUs. :(

You'll want to read this post:
http://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?p=53840#53840

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sigh, once again "human error" @ stanford

seriously, i know people make mistakes, but for all the work their folders do, you would think they could at least keep their servers up?

i mean seriously if you have a 1Tb array then chances are you can set some sort of alert when it drops under a certain free space

thats just carelessness on their part and i find that very depressing about the project, sigh
 
It really is sad. These people are supposed to be scientists and researchers. I find it hard to believe they can’t equate the WU’s available with the total production they get daily against storage space. It’s a math thing, and math is what they do in this project.

This cavalier approach combined with what seems to be an entitlement mentality is really starting to bug me.

The Stanford group needs to realize their source of production is not a bottomless well.


BillR
 
Originally posted by BillR
It really is sad. These people are supposed to be scientists and researchers. I find it hard to believe they can’t equate the WU’s available with the total production they get daily against storage space. It’s a math thing, and math is what they do in this project.

This cavalier approach combined with what seems to be an entitlement mentality is really starting to bug me.

The Stanford group needs to realize their source of production is not a bottomless well.


BillR
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so im not the only one?

i am really getting tired with stanford's crap also, and nobody has backed me up, but this really is just unacceptable in my opinion
 
Originally posted by FLECOM
so im not the only one?

i am really getting tired with stanford's crap also, and nobody has backed me up, but this really is just unacceptable in my opinion
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No FLECOM, you aren't the only one.

To be honest, most of the machines I have running are on autopilot these days because I got tired of having this be another part time job on top of the 80 hours a week I already work right now.

I'm hoping I get inspired again and fix all the autostart-stop scripts I have for the new farms.
 
Originally posted by FLECOM
so im not the only one?

i am really getting tired with stanford's crap also, and nobody has backed me up, but this really is just unacceptable in my opinion
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This is why my personal machines are going back to Find-A-Drug. I'm going to leave my borgs with Stanford since it's a pain to try to change them over.
 
How hard is it for them to check periodically? How hard and expensive is it to add a 250GB drive?


Sigh :rolleyes:
 
Jeez guys, give them a few minutes.

A perfect news for you guys...

I digged out all missing credits from the server log, and credited them all. (it's still going)
Actually, 3999 units were missing. I couldn't dig out cpuid though, but it doesn't matter for crediting.

Thanks!
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From Youngmin
 
Nearly 4000 WUs were missing, and mostly from p638. At least they will eventually be credited. The important thing is that they were received. Plext should see a nice corresponding bump in his stats in the near future. I checked my WU history and didn't see any p638s. Are these common WUs?
 
I really don't have a problem with the way Stanford's been running the show lately. Things work nearly all the time these days, so I can't find much to complain about. Does anyone else remember the classic outages that Stanford used to have on Friday afternoon that lasted the entire weekend? When you think about that, you realize that things are really pretty good now.
 
Stanford has done a lot better job than they used to before the Community was formed. Used to not be able to get to them much at all.
 
Originally posted by MN Scout
They did credit all the WUs. Good news.
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well i personally didnt care about the credit... im glad they didnt loose the work... but really, the point is stuff like this shouldent happen
 
First, I think anyone who has been working on this project for longer than a few months should know that Stanford, while they still make a few mistakes now and then, have improved every aspect of their project many times over. AMD has already admitted that they are at fault for most of the lock-ups we sometimes see. Now that AMD knows where they F'd up, they can fix it... not sure if it will be retroactive, but who knows. It took a long time for AMD to even look at the issue, but eventually they had to because this project is very, very out there when it comes to the DC community.

The expectation of perfection in any project that is as leading edge as this one isn't really reasonable. Crunching prime numbers and other mundane stuff like that doesn't really push our knowledge of how to simulate what nature does every moment of every day using a complex math program on a computer. I for one have blasted Stanford for some of their stupid mistakes many times in the past. The fact that they responded to critics like myself and others who are fairly visible in the project says a lot for them. I still pound their heads together once in a while, but it is so much better than it was and they have produced so much science that has been published, it's hard to find as much fault as it used to be.

I for one can tolerate the glitches we all run across now and then. It is hard when you are running large numbers of systems, but how much does running non-science projects that never ever have problems contribute in a positive way to the human condition? I for one will keep my systems crunching on F@H over the other projects because I'm satisified that my efforts are actually being used and making contributions I can read about because these guys publish their work. ;)
 
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Ditto on that. Glitches happen, they are not happening near as much as they used to. Hell the servers used to go down for as much as a week at a time without being able to process work. To the point we looked for other projects to run as backups while the servers were down for several days at Stanford. I'll just keep Folding. I'm certainly a hell of a lot more concerned about Stanford getting useable results back than any old damn points by my name. I see a hell of a lot of bitching about points, wanting more points, did I get my points. That speaks for itself.
 
Yeah, where is the AMD lockup issue discussed? It sounds like it's a fixable problem, which would be great.
 
I put a link to that thread regarding the AMD problem on the OCAU News Page .

Why dont you do the same for your web site....:(
 
That link has been around here a bit, and even hit the [H]ardOCP front page at one time, but all it says is that they are looking into it. Doesn't say anything about determination of the actual cause of the problem.

Brian Taylor
 
Originally posted by BrianTaylor
That link has been around here a bit, and even hit the [H]ardOCP front page at one time, but all it says is that they are looking into it. Doesn't say anything about determination of the actual cause of the problem.

Brian Taylor
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Take it from me, there are several people communicating with AMD engineers on the issue. The problem is being addressed and everyone I'm sure will know all when there is something in concrete, otherwise it is just speculation. I like detailed and succinct answers to problems. I can wait until then. Be assued that AMD know "they" have a problem. ;)
 
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