Please check my i7 build

This comment is possibly the one that confused istrike:

Danny Bui said:
The i7 can support 12GB of RAM at 1533 (close to 1600Mhz) AFAIK. Haven't seen any evidence otherwise. With that said, you won't see a difference between 12GB of DDR3 1333mhz and 6GB DDR3 1600Mhz in games. So go for more RAM.
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But I still don't understand why 12GB is a necessity for this build.
 
istrike said:
Well I have been told numerous times that the i7 can only support 6 sticks running at 1333 mhz and there are people at newegg who are running six sticks at 1600 just fine. Is it because you have to overclock the i7?
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Ok, just to clear things up: Yes you can have 12GB of DDR3 1600 RAM with six sticks. You don't have to OC the i7 to get DDR3 1600 speeds but you do need to set the RAM speed manually to DDR3 1600 as the default speed for Core i7 CPUs is DDR3 1333.
 
Danny Bui said:
Ok, just to clear things up: Yes you can have 12GB of DDR3 1600 RAM with six sticks. You don't have to OC the i7 to get DDR3 1600 speeds but you do need to set the RAM speed manually to DDR3 1600 as the default speed for Core i7 CPUs is DDR3 1333.
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Correct. I think there are lots of misconceptions where many think that DDR3 1333 is the highest speed you can have with the i7 systems. On the contrary, that's just the default speed. If the motherboard supports it, you can have even DDR3 2000 as long as you manually set that speed in the BIOS.
 
Thank you. That is what i am looking for. it is very confusing because people make it sound like 1333 is the absolute max and the i7 cant handle any more.

Can my motherboard, the EVGA E758-A1, support speeds even above 1600 mhz?
 
istrike said:
Can my motherboard, the EVGA E758-A1, support speeds even above 1600 mhz?
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It's not the motherboard that you have to worry about support RAM speed, it's the CPU. The Core i7 can only support a max speed of DDR3 1600Mhz at stock speeds. You can OC the Core i7 to get/make use of higher speed DDR3 RAM but there's very very little point to do so. You would honestly not notice a difference between DDR3 1600 and DDR3 2000+ in real world apps and games.
 
The Corsair set would be better due to the lower voltage. The OCZ would be faster in synthetic benchmarks only. Their performance in real world apps and games would be the same.
 
Danny Bui said:
The Corsair set would be better due to the lower voltage. The OCZ would be faster in synthetic benchmarks only. Their performance in real world apps and games would be the same.
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Well since I don't really care about power consumption and would much rather have performance, I think the OCZ would be a better choice. Plus it is cheaper.
 
istrike said:
Well since I don't really care about power consumption and would much rather have performance, I think the OCZ would be a better choice. Plus it is cheaper.
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Power consumption wasn't the main reason why I noted the lower voltage of the Corsair RAM. As said multiple times in this thread, the lesser the voltage, the lesser the heat on the CPU. In addition, the lower the voltage, the lower the chance of the CPU being fried or dying early on. So lower temps, lower power consumption, and lower chance of CPU failure was the reason why I said the Corsair was the better set.

With that said, if you want the OCZ, go for it.
 
istrike said:
But with the Noctua, i won't have to worry about that kind of stuff right?
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Everything except for the power consumption and lower chance of CPU failure. Do note that the chance of CPU failure to begin with is pretty low.
 
So what your saying is I have a lower chance of CPU failure which is already low in the first place? And plus I don't think it is as bad as you make it sound because a lot of high performance DDR3 RAM runs at 1.65v.
 
istrike said:
So what your saying is I have a lower chance of CPU failure which is already low in the first place? And plus I don't think it is as bad as you make it sound because a lot of high performance DDR3 RAM runs at 1.65v.
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Yes that's what I'm saying. And yes you are right that it isn't as bad as I made it out to be. Like I said earlier: If you want the OCZ RAM, go for it.

I'm a bit paranoid when it comes to hardware so the little things like voltage and low chances of CPU failure matter a lot to me.
 
istrike said:
Ok cool. Now when I buy this stuff, do I have to get the 12 GB package of it shown here:
OCZ Platinum 12GB (6 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory - Retail or can i get two of the 6 GB packages shown here: OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
Is there any difference?
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No difference besides the 12GB set being $25 cheaper than getting two of those 6GB sets. If you don't mind the $25 increase and need the RAM ASAP, get two of the 6GB sets. If you want to save $25 and don't mind waiting quite a while, get the 12GB set.
 
Ok next, some people have said they have had some trouble with the Noctua fitting on the EVGA boards. Have you heard anything about this? Some people have told me to get the XIGMATEK Dark knight, but I am looking for the best cooling possible regardless of price, and I think Noctua takes the cake.
 
istrike said:
Ok next, some people have said they have had some trouble with the Noctua fitting on the EVGA boards. Have you heard anything about this?
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Haven't heard anything about that. Then again, not a fan of the eVGA mobo to begin with.
 
What are you a fan of? The asus board is ok, but EVGA has always been a trusted name in Mobos. Plus it is rated the highest on newegg and has won their awards.
 
istrike said:
What are you a fan of? The asus board is ok, but EVGA has always been a trusted name in Mobos. Plus it is rated the highest on newegg and has won their awards.
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Well I personally don't trust Newegg ratings or awards. Far too many retards/ignorants/idiots/dumbasses posting there for me to trust. Personally I like Gigabyte with Asus coming in at a close second.

Hmm I can see why that eVGA mobo would have trouble with the Noctua: The NB HS and the mosfet HS are pretty tall, taller than other motherboards.
 
istrike said:
Plus it is rated the highest on newegg and has won their awards.
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I agree with Danny. While the EVGA is certainly a good board from what I've read, you should still take Newegg's hardware reviews with a big grain of salt.
 
istrike said:
... EVGA has always been a trusted name in Mobos.
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For some reason, when I think of eVGA, I don't think of mobos. Maybe its cuz they're new to the mobo game, but whatever. Their X58 offerings are great (simply because they're using an Intel chipset). :p
 
edifyingkarma said:
this is completely pointless if you are not upgrading your monitor
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I am. Its ok, I have updated a lot of stuff since that first post. i will post my semi-final build when i am ready.

--I think the EVGA board is fine, unless someone can provide some good reviews that say otherwise.

--And I was all set on getting a Noctua heatsink, then i found this review on benchmarkrevies.com I don't know if they are a trusted name, but i was looking at their results and was suprised. my friend said from first hand experience that the Noctua never runs above 40C. That test even said Thors hammer did better than the Dark Knight, which i remember people not recommending. so idk. thoughts?

edifyingkarma- a friend is helping me, but you have to start somewhere right?
 
Ya, i will be able to find the Megahalems :) and Im gonna get 2 skythe 120mm fans with it too. I hope it fits with my EVGA board. And ya I'm gonna get that sound card. I'm into really high quality music. Also someone told me the Cooler Master HAF 932 case is wayy better than the antec twelve hundred. Any thoughts on that?
 
Well he told me the Cooler Master HAF will get better airflow because of the better CFM and that means better cooling.
 
istrike said:
Well he told me the Cooler Master HAF will get better airflow because of the better CFM and that means better cooling.
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While not exactly sure about the authenticity of that statement, the Cooler Master HAF is roomier than the Antec 1200 and offers more places to route cable through.
 
Well its not for the speakers I have right now, its for the speakers i will get in the future. See I don't have the money to get everything i want right now so I am getting it in steps. So I plan to get some good speakers in the future that will put the sound card to use. But I'm still unsure about the Cooler Master HAF vs Antec 1200.
 
istrike said:
Well its not for the speakers I have right now, its for the speakers i will get in the future. See I don't have the money to get everything i want right now so I am getting it in steps. So I plan to get some good speakers in the future that will put the sound card to use. But I'm still unsure about the Cooler Master HAF vs Antec 1200.
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Ok. Still a bad idea to buy a sound card if you're not gonna use it right away. Save your money and get the sound card and speakers at the same time. Otherwise, it's just a bloody waste of your money to have something that you cannot take advantage of right away or within a short time (A week or two).

Besides by the time you get those good speakers, there might be better and/or cheaper but equal quality sound cards out there.

Wiat how much money do you have RIGHT NOW for a new PC?
 
Danny Bui said:
Ok. Still a bad idea to buy a sound card if you're not gonna use it right away. Save your money and get the sound card and speakers at the same time. Otherwise, it's just a bloody waste of your money to have something that you cannot take advantage of right away or within a short time (A week or two).

Besides by the time you get those good speakers, there might be better and/or cheaper but equal quality sound cards out there.

Wiat how much money do you have RIGHT NOW for a new PC?
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All valid & logical points. No point in spending money on something that will just sit inside your case and become outdated while also losing value.
 
Good call, but I will probably be getting the speakers within 6 months and doubt anythin super better will come out.

But which case is better Cooler master HAF or Antec 1200. I am planning on overclocking my i7 hopefully to 4.0 Ghz or something close to it. I will be getting the i7 with D0 stepping and the Prolimatech Megahalems to make this a reality. I need a case that is just beastly for cooling. My friend said the Cooler Master HAF not only cools better than the 1200 but saves you money in the process. But even still, I need the case that is THE BEST for cooling. Money is not the issue here.
 
Danny Bui said:
Like I said earlier, definitely the Cooler master HAF. There's even a thread about it:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1400465


Money is an issue as there's no point for us to recommend parts to you if you can't afford them or can't pay for the base PC at once.
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Well I only said that because you guys always want me to take the cheap way out. But I am not saying I can afford a 10,000 computer and I appreciate that you are only pointing these things out because you don't want me to waste my money.
 
istrike said:
But even still, I need the case that is THE BEST for cooling. Money is not the issue here.
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Probably the Cooler Master but I'm sure they're pretty close. Doubt you will notice a huge difference. Pretty certain that the case won't affect your overclocking potential.
 
I thought we settled on the CM HAF already? :confused:

What are your doubts?
 
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