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grandfatman

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Okay, so i'm pretty much a "noob" when it comes to upgrading components, i can build a pc, generally speaking. However, the only thing i have ever upgraded on my home computer is my RAM.

Im looking at getting a GeForce GTX 460 (recommended 450w power supply) and have recently purchased a Corsair 450w power supply. Currently in my PC there is a 250w power supply. Im just wondering, do i need an ADDITIONAL 450w, (so a 700w) or will the 450w power supply suffice?

Cheers in advance for helping out a noob.
 
Also, I'm hoping, with its CUDA cores? (maybe) And other features it will speed up my multicam editing in Adobe Premiere? I know it will help my After Effects work with the GPU as currently i have a radeon HD3200 and no (from what i can tell) usable GPU to be able to run plugins that utilize the GPU (element 3d from Video Copilot) Im not intending to use it primarily for gaming, more the video editing side of things, can i ask your thoughts on this? Thanks in advance!

Current setup:

AMD Phenom 9150 (e) Quad Core @1.8ghz
Radeon HD3200
4gb Ram
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
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The 450W PSU should be sufficient. Highest I got with a GTX460 and an overclocked Intel Q6600 quad-core was around 320W being sucked from the wall socket.
If I'm not mistaken, HD3200 is an integrated GPU, so it's using those 256Mb you're missing from your 4Gb of RAM.
I'm not sure if all that software benefits from CUDA, hopefully someone can answer that part.
 
Thank you! Here's hoping i can find some more info here, but thanks for setting my mind at ease in reagrds to PSU.
 
From what i understand, the mecury playback engine in premiere will use the GPU of the gfx card. If it isnt coded footage, (h.264 etc) otherwise the processor has to deal with it. However, apparantly After Effects will run much better. Im still unsure lol
 
grandfatman said:
Im looking at getting a GeForce GTX 460
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Wait, used or brand new? Which version? the 768MB or the 1GB version?
grandfatman said:
and have recently purchased a Corsair 450w power supply.
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Something is awry here: Corsair hasn't sold a 450W PSU in years. What Corsair PSU did you buy?
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From what i understand, the mecury playback engine in premiere will use the GPU of the gfx card. If it isnt coded footage, (h.264 etc) otherwise the processor has to deal with it. However, apparantly After Effects will run much better. Im still unsure lol
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You might have to do this modification to get Premiere Pro to work with your GPU:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1532552

With that said, what Adobe software versions do you have? CS4? CS5? CS6?
 
Danny Bui said:
Wait, used or brand new? Which version? the 768MB or the 1GB version?

Something is awry here: Corsair hasn't sold a 450W PSU in years. What Corsair PSU did you buy?

You might have to do this modification to get Premiere Pro to work with your GPU:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1532552

With that said, what Adobe software versions do you have? CS4? CS5? CS6?
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The 1gb version ddr5 (Brand New, but from ebay probably)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gigabyte-...raphics_Video_TV_Cards_TW&hash=item2c67b4ca57

Or have considered the 2gb DDR5

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ZOTAC-ZT-...153?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item2a1d9ad299

I know about the modification to make Adobe products to recognize the GPU. I have cs6.

The PSU i bought is here:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170903291030?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Installed this morning and working fine. What are your thoughts on the 2 GFX cards i listed?
 
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I doubt there's any reason to go with the 2gb card. I have the 1gb version and it starts dropping FPS in games even before I reach ~700mb utilisation. I doubt two gigs would make a difference in other applications.
 
Koween said:
I doubt there's any reason to go with the 2gb card. I have the 1gb version and it starts dropping FPS in games even before I reach ~700mb utilisation. I doubt two gigs would make a difference in other applications.
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Im a noob when it comes to GFX cards, can you explain a little better in "layman's" terms? - apologies for being so dumb! (At least i admit it :p ) in regards to your mb utlisation
 
that cpu will bottleneck the heck out of even a gtx460. heck that cpu does not even meet requirements for most newer games.
 
cannondale06 said:
that cpu will bottleneck the heck out of even a gtx460. heck that cpu does not even meet requirements for most newer games.
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Tell me about it, planning a major rehaul :) But remember, as mentioned above, not a gamer :p Not planning on gaming with or without a new pc,
 
rastaban said:
If you're willing to spend about $130, you may as well go with a brand new current generation AMD Radeon HD 7770. It outperforms the GTX 460 and sips energy. Check out this article:
http://blogs.adobe.com/premiereprotraining/2012/05/opencl-and-premiere-pro-cs6.html

OpenCL hardware acceleration is supported in CS6, so you're not locked into Nvidia's CUDA architecture.
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as i understand, from that article, it says only the AMD Radeon HD 6750M and AMD Radeon HD 6770M are supported, and from what i can find, there is no "get around" for AMD cards, only GeForce cards
 
grandfatman said:
as i understand, from that article, it says only the AMD Radeon HD 6750M and AMD Radeon HD 6770M are supported, and from what i can find, there is no "get around" for AMD cards, only GeForce cards
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Hmm, sorry I think you're right. I know I read a few articles about OpenCL coming to Creative Suite but I guess it is still very limited at this time. Then again, the GTX 460 doesn't seem to be on the official list of supported GPUs either. Most of the supported cards are workstation Quadros: http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html

The supported AMD cards are only those two 6000 series cards (mobile cards).

Looking at the supported cards list, a GTX 470 may be your most economical option. They seem to go for $80 to $130 on eBay. The TDP is 230W vs 160W for the GTX 460, but your PSU should be alright.
 
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Hmm, sorry I think you're right. I know I read a few articles about OpenCL coming to Creative Suite but I guess it is still very limited at this time. Then again, the GTX 460 doesn't seem to be on the official list of supported GPUs either. Most of the supported cards are workstation Quadros: http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html

The supported AMD cards are only those two 6000 series cards (mobile cards).

Looking at the supported cards list, a GTX 470 may be your most economical option. They seem to go for $80 to $130 on eBay. The TDP is 230W vs 160W for the GTX 460, but your PSU should be alright.
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The 470 would mean i need to upgrade my PSU, and i've only just done that with the plan to get the 460. The GPU can be used with the Adobe products as there is a "mod" you can do to the program to make it usable, basically it makes the program see the gtx 460 card as one of the "recommended" cards
 
Now thinking of getting the GTX 560. Around the same price for me, and seems like a hell of a better card, and runs at slightly less consumption.
 
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