People Unimpressed With Tech Progress

[Rune75]

Governments and Religion, the two biggest enemies of progress.

Damn, you saved me from having to say it. When nearly 40 percent of the USA does not think Evolution is real, and the average Joe just wants a little blue pill to get a hard donk before the apocalypse or 2012 scary stuff happens, it's no wonder that people are not focusing on the future and LEARNING like they aught to.

Want the future to happen? Help create it. Don't let Idiocracy the movie actually come to pass.

 

[Powerage]

You realize your talking about theft, right?

Oh jesusfuckingchrist. I get so tired of this tired argument. I'm born again with regards to my fiscal attitude and I could really care less about omgSOCIALISM. Yeah, I'm talking about people giving money to the government to run certain programs necessary to the advancement of our society. Call it theft? All right, see if I give a shit. Fact is, most people wouldn't mind paying taxes if they lived in a country that had no government at all for a solid month. You know why? Because people, probably including you, are lazy pricks that like to bitch about things, that they really don't want to leave.

 

[MJZ]

Don't be a tool, think before you act like a fool. Obviously, I'm referring to living well past 100 years and not just being a healthy person.

Are you serious? Government in the US will always be run by corporations. I'm not sure what your post was other than one giant handjob for the government.

Huh? You don't think being healthy is the basis for living well past 100 years? A person's actual age often has nothing to do with their internal age. Healthy individuals at 50 may have organ aging and deterioration of an unhealthy 30 year old.

You obviously have no background in Biology or Chemistry to understand exactly what needs to happen to unlock the key to control senescence. The government already provides money for research (I happened to have worked an entire summer with similar Genetics research, and took home a couple grand from the government from exactly that).

Suggesting that throwing money at an issue solves the problem shows exactly the type of mentality some people have.

If you're not sure what my post was except for a "handjob for the government", then you better start brushing up on your Pornography 101. Governments are many things, as are corporations. Either way, they are all composed of people. When a people are made up of persons exclusively of those who believe in the power of the almighty dollar over the others powers that may, that is what determines the direction of a nation.

 

[Gavv]

well, i don't know what the benefit would be to colonize the moon or mars. both are ice cold, super dry rocks, nothing more. i do agree we should rather invent better batteries, try to not destroy our planet and maybe dump something called "religion" that has been ball and chain to mankind for millennia. and i say that as a science nerd. the obstacles of manned space travel are just huge and mankind is too busy with killing each other and destroying their planet.

the true problem that science has is that most people are just morons. it is uncool to be good at math and if you show any sign of knowledge about physics or science in general people look at you in various funny ways, none of which i'd say is respectful. the general education of people is lacking badly. whenever that is the topic in some smalltalk i mention a gameshow i watched years ago where the candidate couldn't answer the question of how many squares a chessboard has. in 100% such cases i either got awkward silence or "i didn't know that either" as a response. and these are middle and upper class education europeans. the very same people, however, could surely name several movies of any random celebrity you name. that's some priorities right there.

as long as people are only interested in having the newest cell phone, getting some fancy design for their fingernails, sitting on their ass all day and watch tv or tweet useless crap that noone cares about, we will not get significantly more people willing to start a career in science because there's not enough interest in it which results in fewer innovations and discoveries. how should kids know there are so many great things to know, study and discover? chances are the parents don't know either and school does a crappy job at sparking interest in science.

sorry if that post is confusing... it's 8 a.m. now and i've worked on something since 6 p.m., i'm tired lol. g'night.

Religion is such a ball and chain.....wow...good to know.

 

[Azhar]

Damn, you saved me from having to say it. When nearly 40 percent of the USA does not think Evolution is real, and the average Joe just wants a little blue pill to get a hard donk before the apocalypse or 2012 scary stuff happens, it's no wonder that people are not focusing on the future and LEARNING like they aught to.

Want the future to happen? Help create it. Don't let Idiocracy the movie actually come to pass.

Religion has been around since the dawn of man. Blaming religion for halting progress is like blaming video games for violence. You're being a Jack Thompson, finding something to blame it on rather than taking responsibility.

Innovation and Evolution depends on us as individuals. It's not going to do it for us while we sit around pointing fingers at everybody else.

 

[Bladestorm]

I can see from your post that you don't understand how the men and women who call themselves "Government" operate.

"Yeah, I'm talking about people giving money to the government to run certain programs necessary to the advancement of our society."

Is this transaction of "giving money to the government" voluntary?

 

[MJZ]

Religion has been around since the dawn of man. Blaming religion for halting progress is like blaming video games for violence. You're being a Jack Thompson, finding something to blame it on rather than taking responsibility.

Innovation and Evolution depends on us as individuals. It's not going to do it for us while we sit around pointing fingers at everybody else.

I agree; Einstein, Edison, Franklin, Tesla, etc were all but individuals.

It is the ingenuity and breakthroughs of only few select individuals that provide the exponentially scaling benefits we enjoy in a modern society (energy, mass production, transportation, food, communications etc).

 

[MJZ]

I can see from your post that you don't understand how the men and women who call themselves "Government" operate.



Is this transaction of "giving money to the government" voluntary?

Yes. You can voluntarily not give to the government (through various means) or voluntarily move to another country.

What you want is to keep the lights on without paying your electric bills. It isn't that good in the real world.

 

[The-UselessNoob]

I can see from your post that you don't understand how the men and women who call themselves "Government" operate.



Is this transaction of "giving money to the government" voluntary?

Yes. you can continue to enjoy your roads, healthcare, public schooling, rights, and all that other stuff, through paying your taxes. Or you can not pay your taxes and move to another country or live in the forest somewhere.

 

[Enduring_Warrior]

I think we're reaching the point of diminishing returns for the capability we have now. We need breakthroughs in things we're bottlenecking, such as fuel type, or breaking away from conventions and standards we fall victim to repeating (such as the wheel).

Changing the patent laws would go a long ways too.

Two words. Ignition engine.

 

[Enduring_Warrior]

Agriculture, hunting and construction to do what? Keep bombs from flying into your fields and other countries from marching in and executing you?

You really have to learn how to read, and by that I mean read things in context.

Thank you.

 

[MJZ]

You really have to learn how to read, and by that I mean read things in context.

Thank you.

You really need to learn to comprehend responses, that are meant to address the point you were missing.

 

[Enduring_Warrior]

well, i don't know what the benefit would be to colonize the moon or mars. both are ice cold, super dry rocks, nothing more. i do agree we should rather invent better batteries, try to not destroy our planet and maybe dump something called "religion" that has been ball and chain to mankind for millennia. and i say that as a science nerd. the obstacles of manned space travel are just huge and mankind is too busy with killing each other and destroying their planet.

the true problem that science has is that most people are just morons. it is uncool to be good at math and if you show any sign of knowledge about physics or science in general people look at you in various funny ways, none of which i'd say is respectful. the general education of people is lacking badly. whenever that is the topic in some smalltalk i mention a gameshow i watched years ago where the candidate couldn't answer the question of how many squares a chessboard has. in 100% such cases i either got awkward silence or "i didn't know that either" as a response. and these are middle and upper class education europeans. the very same people, however, could surely name several movies of any random celebrity you name. that's some priorities right there.

as long as people are only interested in having the newest cell phone, getting some fancy design for their fingernails, sitting on their ass all day and watch tv or tweet useless crap that noone cares about, we will not get significantly more people willing to start a career in science because there's not enough interest in it which results in fewer innovations and discoveries. how should kids know there are so many great things to know, study and discover? chances are the parents don't know either and school does a crappy job at sparking interest in science.

sorry if that post is confusing... it's 8 a.m. now and i've worked on something since 6 p.m., i'm tired lol. g'night.

In my opinion you're wrong. Einstein got more pussy than the best Actor of his time. Marylin Monroe wanted to marry him. Your post only shows your complete disregard of the rules of attraction and your lack of knowledge on social interactions. My best suggestion is that you apply your brain and your talent on learning that and then come back here to post. You'd find out that there are guys that know a lot about this who get more women if not Most quality women out there just because as you said they're the most quality people. Moron even dressed in silk will still be a Moron.

 

[Bladestorm]

Yes. you can continue to enjoy your roads, healthcare, public schooling, rights, and all that other stuff, through paying your taxes. Or you can not pay your taxes and move to another country or live in the forest somewhere.

Should a service or product be provided at the barrel of a gun? Yes or no?

 

[Headcase]

I guarantee none of them have ever heard of Fermi.
Or know jack about computers or processing units in general.

 

[Enduring_Warrior]

You really need to learn to comprehend responses, that are meant to address the point you were missing.

Which you missed by reading out of context. Please, read again. Think and then write.

 

[Rune75]

Religion has been around since the dawn of man. Blaming religion for halting progress is like blaming video games for violence. You're being a Jack Thompson, finding something to blame it on rather than taking responsibility.

Innovation and Evolution depends on us as individuals. It's not going to do it for us while we sit around pointing fingers at everybody else.

Thanks for the ad hominem attack. I found it refreshing. You are completely right. Religion does not halt progress or spread lies. Because we all know that condoms are evil, Mother Teresa actually helped heal people, 9/11 never happened, Hitler loved Jews, "Witches" weren't burned, Galileo Galilei was not almost killed or under house arrest for the rest of his days...


MJZ: Love your list =) Two confirmed Atheists and the last at best a deist if not Atheist/agnostic.


I just hope for a time when people come to respect science (like most of the 20th century) and help to create what the previous generations only dreamed of. It seems we are on a downward spiral away from education. It all comes down to: I want my flying car too!

 

[Azhar]

Thanks for the ad hominem attack. I found it refreshing. You are completely right. Religion does not halt progress or spread lies. Because we all know that condoms are evil, Mother Teresa actually helped heal people, 9/11 never happened, Hitler loved Jews, "Witches" weren't burned, Galileo Galilei was not almost killed or under house arrest for the rest of his days...


MJZ: Love your list =) Two confirmed Atheists and the last at best a deist if not Atheist/agnostic.


I just hope for a time when people come to respect science (like most of the 20th century) and help to create what the previous generations only dreamed of. It seems we are on a downward spiral away from education. It all comes down to: I want my flying car too!

I wasn't attacking you, don't take it personally. I used Jack Thompson's blaming tactic as an example of what you're doing to religion. It's a comparison, not an attack.

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve making your list of historic events. They happened because we're human and we're prone to corruption when given the power to make things happen. Religion is an excuse, again.

 

[Rune75]

I wasn't attacking you, don't take it personally. I used Jack Thompson's blaming tactic as an example of what you're doing to religion. It's a comparison, not an attack.

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve making your list of historic events. They happened because we're human and we're prone to corruption when given the power to make things happen. Religion is an excuse, again.

You are right, mostly. Religion is an excuse to a lot of people when they think the Rapture! is going to happen (20% of America is certain and another 20ish% is fairly certain) within our lifetime. That is 40% of the USA that does not see the world continuing past a relatively close date due to something that just is not going to happen thanks in part to idiots like Kirk Cameron and Kent Hovind. Why plan for a future they think will never come? Might as well just enjoy the "now" with the little blue pills (I think I have the matrix themed [H] wallpaper on my mind lol) to get your donk hard.

I'm tired. Might explain it more or rant a bit if my ire creeps up by reading posts tomorrow... lol No worries on the Jack thing. It's the intarweb. I rarely take anything personal on here, dude

 

[MJZ]

Which you missed by reading out of context. Please, read again. Think and then write.

Out of context? You stated that "Pfft, they offer survivalism courses for that. And all you'll need is to learn how to do Agriculture, hunting and construction for that."

Your response was to what I stated about the basic necessities of life, that a government must first ensure before pursuing the luxuries. No, survivalist courses do not address nuclear threats, terrorism, and similar war machines.

I didn't bother addressing your statement that "Your concept of government is pretty far from reality if you ask me. But well that is simply obvious. To put it simply stagnation doesn't exist, You either move forwards or you start climbing down. You really need to study Objectivism. Also, look up O. Spengler: "Civilizations are like living beings, there's not a linear evolution of humanity, but a cyclical one. For example the Greeks had no concept of infinity (that was Western Civilization's work) or concept of 0 (That was Arab Civilization's work) and then the classical school teach that our civilization descends from the Greeks. Just as the greeks and every other one after and before them our civilization will decline, and as a living being, die". That was proposed by the end of the 19th century and then he recommended his readers to go work in technology as culture and education were already in decline. Well, what would you know? Just look around. Hence my first post in this thread."

Such a response would entail far too much unrelated and long-winded contentions. Which Objectivitsm are you referring to? Infinity was referenced early on by Indian mathematicians, or are you talking about the philosophical study of infinity? Humanity is cyclical? Wait, are you saying we're going to go back to being monkeys someday? Or better yet, wearing leaves and eating fruit from the tree of knowledge?

Obviously, all of these concepts are arguable and people will agree and disagree on many levels. None of this really has anything to do with the topic at hand however, unless you think the explosion of information technology, instantaneous communications capability, and the ability of travel the Earth within hours was yestermillenia's news and we're just in a declining cycle doomed to inevitable decline and fall.

 

[Uberbob102000]

Damn, you saved me from having to say it. When nearly 40 percent of the USA does not think Evolution is real, and the average Joe just wants a little blue pill to get a hard donk before the apocalypse or 2012 scary stuff happens, it's no wonder that people are not focusing on the future and LEARNING like they aught to.

Want the future to happen? Help create it. Don't let Idiocracy the movie actually come to pass.

This is a huge problem I think. I was luckily raised in a family who taught me to learn things for myself. Once I was 8-9 my parents told me to look it up whenever I wanted to know about something rather than telling me, and then to get them if I needed help. I've always liked to learn but I seemed to be one of a very small number when I was in high school. My peers would mostly respond with, "You like to learn? what's wrong with you?!". I think as a society we need to focus on education and instilling a want to learn and focus putting knowledge in a positive light, especially science and math (I think I saw 40% of Americans don't believe in evolution, and that's just kinda depressing).

 

[SCiFiRE]

There is no black and white answer to this, obviosuly.

But i do believe we are far behind where we could be, for all the reasons listed in this thread.
In no particular order:

Corporations and CEOs putting profits ahead of advancement. Not wanting to be the first to try new technology in the market. Promotions not based on work performance, Not wanting employees to stray from their job descriptions, therefor suppressing the passionate and innovative.

Religion, holding back education (evolution as a myth), holding back important research (stem cells). Yes religion has been around for hundreds of years; but to say they are not atleast partially responsible for holding back scientific advance is pulling the wool over your eyes. For a long time in history anyone who tried something different was locked up or killed.

Less recognition for education. Know something about physics, science or technology; you a geek, a nerd, a little bit wierd. I tell people what i do for a living and they all say "wow, you must be smart, I could never do that" - But they could. If they put their minds to it and studied for something rather than being happy working in a supermarket and making more babies.

 

[SCiFiRE]

Also, forgot to mention, yeah some of our more technologically advanced nations (like the USA) pouring bucketloads of money into wars instead of into research and development (and that includes the space program) doesn't help either.

 

[GoHack]

Also, forgot to mention, yeah some of our more technologically advanced nations (like the USA) pouring bucketloads of money into wars instead of into research and development (and that includes the space program) doesn't help either.

There are some in congress who want NASA shut down, and to have the money saved there, to be used for nationalized healthcare and other social programs.

We put buckloads of money into war in the past as well, w/the Cold War and Vietnam. We're still at war w/North Korea.

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[Spare-Flair]

The loss of the cold war put a huge damper on technological development. The quantum leaps of big science were all funded by the military since the 40s. The cold war was the entire motivating factor for the space race.

 

[msny]

Why do we expect all of these advanced things when its the world business model to make more money using yesterdays technology as long as humanly possible?

If there is anyone to blame its upper management and shareholders who do the most to stop the advancement of things like R&D and true innovation.

I'm not saying that you must fix it even if it is not broke, but damn, there are companies out there with 486DX processor PC's running Windows ME. Really, there are.

Utter nonsense.

Business runs on a profit model and gives people
what they want. Innovation for new products, R & D,
costs many companies millions without any expectation
of a return aKa a profit. Profit is not a dirty word.

People dont work for free....

Technology progresses as fast as people demand
it.

 

[msny]

Well hell, here it is nearly 42 years after the premier of 2001:A Space Odyssey (April 6,1968), and Earth's manned spaceflight capability is a joke compared to what is depicted in that film, not to mention its sequel 2010. In that respect our technological advances are pathetic.

Better question.
Where is the trillions of dollars needed to bring this
technology into reality?

 

[Enduring_Warrior]

Thanks for the ad hominem attack. I found it refreshing. You are completely right. Religion does not halt progress or spread lies. Because we all know that condoms are evil, Mother Teresa actually helped heal people, 9/11 never happened, Hitler loved Jews, "Witches" weren't burned, Galileo Galilei was not almost killed or under house arrest for the rest of his days...


MJZ: Love your list =) Two confirmed Atheists and the last at best a deist if not Atheist/agnostic.


I just hope for a time when people come to respect science (like most of the 20th century) and help to create what the previous generations only dreamed of. It seems we are on a downward spiral away from education. It all comes down to: I want my flying car too!

Too bad Atheism as you proclaim it has become another form of Militancy. Just like religious fanatism. But well, after all we have already reached the conclusion that is the people behind the concepts that make them suck. Not the concept themselves. Thanks for proving my point. Militant is a Militant no matter if you tag him as Catholic, Muslim, Buddhist or that new age thing you call Atheism.

 

[Spewn]

Better question.
Where is the trillions of dollars needed to bring this
technology into reality?

And another question: Where's the wormhole monolith doohicky?

Oh yeah, it was FICTION!

The day people stop getting their science from popular media is the day people stop thinking we should be more advanced than we are.

 

[HardOCP News]

Get this thread back on track.

 

[Enduring_Warrior]

Out of context? You stated that "Pfft, they offer survivalism courses for that. And all you'll need is to learn how to do Agriculture, hunting and construction for that."

Your response was to what I stated about the basic necessities of life, that a government must first ensure before pursuing the luxuries. No, survivalist courses do not address nuclear threats, terrorism, and similar war machines.

I didn't bother addressing your statement that "Your concept of government is pretty far from reality if you ask me. But well that is simply obvious. To put it simply stagnation doesn't exist, You either move forwards or you start climbing down. You really need to study Objectivism. Also, look up O. Spengler: "Civilizations are like living beings, there's not a linear evolution of humanity, but a cyclical one. For example the Greeks had no concept of infinity (that was Western Civilization's work) or concept of 0 (That was Arab Civilization's work) and then the classical school teach that our civilization descends from the Greeks. Just as the greeks and every other one after and before them our civilization will decline, and as a living being, die". That was proposed by the end of the 19th century and then he recommended his readers to go work in technology as culture and education were already in decline. Well, what would you know? Just look around. Hence my first post in this thread."

Such a response would entail far too much unrelated and long-winded contentions. Which Objectivitsm are you referring to? Infinity was referenced early on by Indian mathematicians, or are you talking about the philosophical study of infinity? Humanity is cyclical? Wait, are you saying we're going to go back to being monkeys someday? Or better yet, wearing leaves and eating fruit from the tree of knowledge?

Obviously, all of these concepts are arguable and people will agree and disagree on many levels. None of this really has anything to do with the topic at hand however, unless you think the explosion of information technology, instantaneous communications capability, and the ability of travel the Earth within hours was yestermillenia's news and we're just in a declining cycle doomed to inevitable decline and fall.

Oh Sorry, I forgot I was talking in a technology forum when everybody's point of view is about technology as the only measurement of civilization, not the thing that drives it: Culture.
Here's an example for you: Please find me more than two links that exposes the creation of concrete that stands Sea Water for Centuries. The construction of a Roman Ballista by using modern Engineering concepts(including Computers) and Roman Age materials.
I thought I was speaking to a rational person, but since you've shown no respect for what I said given your arrogance to post about the tree of life. I simply don't take you seriously anymore.
If you happened to ignore the fact that the context of my reply was: If everybody were honest and responsible there wouldn't be a necessity for a government. How could you not ignore the examples of the rise and fall of Greece and Arab Cultures? Let's put it like this: Rome-Dark Ages- Renaissance.
Really, take a reading course. You need it. I never said men were cyclycal your interpretation of my phrase like that only shows you never gave it though but disregarded it and went ahead to insult: "Because you know you're right and everybody else's opinion which is different as yours deserves to be insulted and crushed". I meant civilizations are cyclical. Men evolve, slowly. An example is approach anxiety, an evolutionary design made to protect you against death or being ruled out of society as a potential mate. Nowadays they don't apply. With so many women per square feet and laws that provide protection against violence. But you'll still feel it. Go ask yourself why.

 

[HardOCP News]

For those of you that may have missed this post...

Get this thread back on track.

 

[MJZ]

Oh Sorry, I forgot I was talking in a technology forum when everybody's point of view is about technology as the only measurement of civilization, not the thing that drives it: Culture.
Here's an example for you: Please find me more than two links that exposes the creation of concrete that stands Sea Water for Centuries. The construction of a Roman Ballista by using modern Engineering concepts(including Computers) and Roman Age materials.
I thought I was speaking to a rational person, but since you've shown no respect for what I said given your arrogance to post about the tree of life. I simply don't take you seriously anymore.
If you happened to ignore the fact that the context of my reply was: If everybody were honest and responsible there wouldn't be a necessity for a government. How could you not ignore the examples of the rise and fall of Greece and Arab Cultures? Let's put it like this: Rome-Dark Ages- Renaissance.
Really, take a reading course. You need it. I never said men were cyclycal your interpretation of my phrase like that only shows you never gave it though but disregarded it and went ahead to insult: "Because you know you're right and everybody else's opinion which is different as yours deserves to be insulted and crushed". I meant civilizations are cyclical. Men evolve, slowly. An example is approach anxiety, an evolutionary design made to protect you against death or being ruled out of society as a potential mate. Nowadays they don't apply. With so many women per square feet and laws that provide protection against violence. But you'll still feel it. Go ask yourself why.

Technology is the result of knowledge. I should hope knowledge proceeds forward without returning to the dark ages, thinking the sun revolves around the Earth and similar.
It is also the subject of this thread,

If you wanted to talk about humanity being a cultural cycle (as in, we rise and fall in our education, arts, higher thinking, and philosophies), that is an entirely different matter, of which is highly arguable and irrelevant to the progress of knowledge.

I'm sorry, insulting? I haven't posted a single thing that is insulting. Yet here you are with the "You need reading lessons, your concept is obviously far from reality, blah blah blah".

What does your response to the other guy about Government enforcing laws have anything to do with my response? (And that is just one such function the Government performs). That's just the forum's way of combining two quotes into one post as far I'm aware.

Getting back on track...

People have hugely unrealistic expectations of technological progress. Just a few lifetimes ago, people could only dream of things like flight and space travel. The fact that within the last hundred years the exponential explosion of new medicine, travel, computing, communications, energy, and entertainment advancements have been made should be astounding.

 

[GoHack]

From my experience, R&D spending has a lot to do w/a CEO's background. One who was a practicing engineer, tends to think about the future, and does the spending now, though maybe not enough, while one who has a degree in business thinks only about now, and today's profits, and doesn't do any spending in R&D for the future.

At the place where I saw it happen, it's now hurting that corporation big time, because they are now doing catch up w/their competators.

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[GoHack]

There is no black and white answer to this, obviosuly.

But i do believe we are far behind where we could be, for all the reasons listed in this thread.
In no particular order:

Corporations and CEOs putting profits ahead of advancement. Not wanting to be the first to try new technology in the market. Promotions not based on work performance, Not wanting employees to stray from their job descriptions, therefor suppressing the passionate and innovative.

Religion, holding back education (evolution as a myth), holding back important research (stem cells). Yes religion has been around for hundreds of years; but to say they are not atleast partially responsible for holding back scientific advance is pulling the wool over your eyes. For a long time in history anyone who tried something different was locked up or killed.

Less recognition for education. Know something about physics, science or technology; you a geek, a nerd, a little bit wierd. I tell people what i do for a living and they all say "wow, you must be smart, I could never do that" - But they could. If they put their minds to it and studied for something rather than being happy working in a supermarket and making more babies.

Again, I believe it has a lot to do w/the CEO's background, be it in engineering or business.

As for religion holding back learning, that was true in the Middle Ages. A lot got lost, thanks to the Roman Catholic Church, and it's now being found more and more that what was learned after the Middle Ages, had aready been known well before, by the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Romans, and others. Given what they had to work w/back then, it's fair to say that they were equally as intelligent as we are now-a-days, perhaps even more so.

The world greatest loss in knowledge was w/the destruction of the Ancient Library of Alexandria in Egypt. We'll never know to the full extent what was loss there and what has, and will need to be, relearned.

.

 

[Powerage]

Huh? You don't think being healthy is the basis for living well past 100 years? A person's actual age often has nothing to do with their internal age. Healthy individuals at 50 may have organ aging and deterioration of an unhealthy 30 year old.

You obviously have no background in Biology or Chemistry to understand exactly what needs to happen to unlock the key to control senescence. The government already provides money for research (I happened to have worked an entire summer with similar Genetics research, and took home a couple grand from the government from exactly that).

Suggesting that throwing money at an issue solves the problem shows exactly the type of mentality some people have.

If you're not sure what my post was except for a "handjob for the government", then you better start brushing up on your Pornography 101. Governments are many things, as are corporations. Either way, they are all composed of people. When a people are made up of persons exclusively of those who believe in the power of the almighty dollar over the others powers that may, that is what determines the direction of a nation.

I just wanted to reply to this, then I'm done. It may be the "basis" but in no way does eating healthy and exercise guarantee you a long life. I actually have a pretty solid background in both Biology and Chemistry. You claim I don't know what's necessary to unlock the key to control senescence, yet you claim it's simply exercising and eating right, something people have been doing for thousands of years. Throwing money at issues actually does tend to solve problems. There's a big difference between 10-20 scientists running simulations on old hardware to 100-200 scientists utilizing a supercomputer and high-end laboratories.

Finite.

 

[BillR]

Way too much of this has become soapbox redux.

We can't run the world, provide everything for everyone, condemn profit all the while blaming religion. We have already spent more money than is realistically available, where will the rest of the money come from?

Meantime the blame game...Just too convenient.

 

[Freezebyte]

My has become nothing more then a dissapointing lie, I want my Star Wars universe

 

[Freezebyte]

"life" god damn lack of edit button on news posts

 

[qdemn7]

Better question.Where is the trillions of dollars needed to bring this technology into reality?

Poured in the the Pentagon. Inflation Adjusted Defense Spending A rough approximation of $600,000,000,000 per year over 50 years works out to $30,000,000,000,000. One-half, one-third or even one-quarter of that would have built one hell of a space program.