PeerIX - Official thread

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  1. xphil3

    xphil3 [H]ard|Gawd

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    PeerIX
    As some of you saw from the previous thread "Network nerds" this will be the new official thread. We will start off with a quick faq followed by some of descriptions of whats going on.

    VISIT THE NEW FORUM!!
    http://forum.peerixproject.com

    What is PeerIX:
    PeerIX is the official name for an idea that was put forth to to develop a functional "mini internet" for both practical experience with enterprise technologies as well as to learn them.

    What are the requirements?
    A network device that supports IPsec, GRE and BGP. Other routing protocols may be considered but will be "corner case" as the core will be eBGP.

    What devices work?
    We will add to this list as more users being to peer. Currently most Cisco routers will work permitted that you are running an IOS that supports the core technologies above.
    http://tools.cisco.com/ITDIT/CFN/jsp/index.jsp
    You can use the IOS feature navigator to verify if your IOS/device supports the required features.
    Working devices:
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    Cisco routers

    What technologies are you talking about?
    The sky is the limit here, but the main core technologies are the IPsec suite, GRE and BGP. Right now we have limited things going on within this network but eventually the hope is to have it grow much larger with more services.

    Why are you doing this?
    I had this Idea a very long time ago so myself and a few others talked about doing something like this, both to better ourselves technically as well as provide a resource to others to really get their "feet wet" with some of the other technologies.

    Who can participate?
    ANYONE! If you want to learn the core technologies and the other technologies to come, send an email to group.peerix@gmail.com listing your name, AIM name and what device that you want to bring.

    What technologies are available?
    Internal(within the network) Voice
    Internal conference bridging
    Practical BGP technologies

    What if I don't want to do this, but I'm still curious
    Fair enough, but you would be missing out. If you want to see whats going on within the network 4-5 route-view(or looking glass) servers will be publicly available. Come back later for the addresses and credentials.


    IRC:
    irc.rizon.net
    #peerix|project

    Network layout:
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    This is still a work in progress and the diagram will be updated as often as possible. I'm sure different documents will be posted as well.
    [​IMG]

    More information will be added as this network grows and questions arise.
     
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  2. Vito_Corleone

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    This has been so far, more people should definitely join in.
     
  3. keenan

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    Hey, I tried to send e-mail to that group and Google tells me I don't have permission! I'd definitely like to join in; here's the e-mail I sent:
     
  4. Vito_Corleone

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    PM me your email and I'll send an invite
     
  5. Lightworker

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    I'll keep the latest version of our public documentation in this post :cool:

    [​IMG]
     
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  6. Ur_Mom

    Ur_Mom I'm Not Serious

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    I'd like to be a part of this, but am awaiting my 2620XM to be delivered (max RAM/Flash). It'd really be a great learning experience for me, as well. Give me about a week, and I'll jump on.
     
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    Doesn't Vyatta support those required features also?
     
  8. Shockey

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    From what i read, Yes. It support IPSec vpn and BGP
     
  9. Vito_Corleone

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    It should, someone will be testing it soon.
     
  10. Electrofreak

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    I'm still a network noob (taking a Network+ test soon and working my way through a CCENT book and eventually a CCNA book) but for the sake of science (or nerdom perhaps?) I'll be working on getting my hands on an edge router if you folks are willing to deal with a lot of questions.
     
  11. grep | BearIt

    grep | BearIt n00bie

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    Hi guys...

    Looooooong time lurker here.
    Especially in Networking & Security.

    Anyway, this project has me VERY interested, as I am also on a networking path.
    (I have a Net+...too poor for anything else at the moment)
    I have always wanted to do something like this.

    I am running pfSense 1.2.3RC1 and if we can figure out settings for that,
    I will participate.


    If not, I have been interested in Vyetta anyway.
    :)
     
  12. just2cool

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    Looks like everyone is coming out of the woodwork for this one!

    If pfSense/Vyetta works out, this could be pretty big.

    If anyone out there is afraid to do this because they're going to ask "stupid" questions, don't be. It's a learning experience and you should take part in it if you can.
     
  13. Benzino

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    Hmmm, I have access to a Cisco 1841 that has been decommissioned. I'd have to pull it out, I believe it does BGP.
     
  14. KevinO

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    I would be interested. I have 2 Cisco routers at home (2503 and 2514) but don't know if they are capable of BGP etc. I also don't know what IOS they are running. I have always wanted to learn this stuff and don't do well with books as I am more of a hands on type guy.
     
  15. Vito_Corleone

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    Definitely. This kid ^^^ passed the CCIE written, but he knows more about time travel than he does about VPNs. :D

    And I'm half a retard with pretty much everything haha.
     
  16. Vito_Corleone

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    I'm sure those can do BGP with the right IOS, but I don't know if they can do the VPN side of it. And they're painfully slow. Buying a cheap 2600 with some RAM would be better than those things (or a 2600XM, which is better yet).
     
  17. xphil3

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    +1 , thats from all the pot he smokes :p
    ...

    EDIT: REPORT FOR STICKEY!
     
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  18. calvinj

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    Probably has to to come up with half of the shit he says and does.. makes it all justified in the end
     
  19. null_0

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    Hi Lightworker,

    Can you add the bgp router id's so we do not overlap anyone else's.

    thx
     
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    a little over the top for this, but agreed that this is a fun little project none the less. Chatted about it with a few friends from work, they thought it was pretty cool too.
     
  22. just2cool

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    True stories. I am sheltered with all of my private links at work. Definitely need to get beyond conceptual on that one, besides the simple ASA VPN setup that I know.

    False stories. My voice is just absurdly low.

    +1 for this thread being a sticky.
     
  23. Xipher

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    Any chance you could link to a larger image of the diagram as I'd like to see a bit more of the details and I can't really read more then the name, AS, and EXT. Also I was wondering how you guys are allocating the IP ranges, is one person acting as an authority for the allocations.

    Last question, what does EXT stand for in the diagram?
     
  24. xphil3

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    Lenny is taking care of the diagram, maybe he can post up a larger sanitized version. Also, ill end up making my own version and posting it as well.
    Vito is IANA bitch.

    EXT = extension, for the voice services.
     
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  25. KevinO

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    Ok I found me a 2611XM that I should be able to use. How are you actively communicating to the participants? IM/Email/IRC?
     
  26. Electrofreak

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    While I'm not directly involved yet, I do know that most of them are using AIM. I believe they also have voice communications set up.

    EDIT - I have to stop for a moment here and laugh at myself... I really need to get my butt in gear and either get the hardware I need or figure out how to use Vyatta real quick...
     
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    I need to update the diag later with some new peers, I'll see if I can clean one up for full size public viewing then
     
  28. Captain Colonoscopy

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    GAAAAHHHHH, my 2621 still shows "billing information received" on the UPS tracking website. I am going to reach through the internets and stab this guy in the face if he doesn't drop it off soon. The anticipation of BGP over GRE action is just killing me . . . .
     
  29. Electrofreak

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    You make it sound so hot Captain... :p
     
  30. WesM63

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    BTW, the link between xphil and myself is up.

    We have been communicating mostly via AIM.
     
  31. Vito_Corleone

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    Mostly through our Google Group, which is awesome. A lot of individual stuff through AIM as well.
     
  32. keenan

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    Guess I need to break down and set up AIM...

    Damn you Yanks and your crappy IM software :p
     
  33. Vito_Corleone

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    I can set up an IM server of some kind if people want.
     
  34. xphil3

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    Thats Mr. Yank to you :p

    Would be nice to get some more people from overseas

    I was going to setup a jabber server, vm of course.
     
  35. Vito_Corleone

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    That's cool. If you don't want to I was just going to run it on my webserver so it'd be public.
     
  36. keenan

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    Alright, I ressurrected my ancient AIM account that I'm surprised is still around. I'm a9575276 (everything was taken so I used my ICQ # - it's the same network anyway, right :p). Only in Canada though I'm afraid - not far enough for me to be fun.

    Jabber/XMPP would be awesome. We're going to need a DNS too... what TLDs should we set up?

    Does anyone have nodes on proper network connections? I'm just going to be running on my home (crappy) DSL line for now.
     
  37. ManateeMatt

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    Any chance we could get an IRC channel made... AIM and i don't get along so well.
     
  38. xphil3

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    irc.rizon.net
    #peerix|project
     
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  39. robertp221

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    I am interested in joining, it looks like i would be using vyatta. Is there anything I should read up on while i am getting my hardware in order.
     
  40. Captain Colonoscopy

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    It is hot! Its freaking electric!!!!