Overclocking has virtually no affect???

It may kill the CPU if it is running at extremely high 24/7. If you OC your CPU and the temps are running in the 80c then even at stock it will kill of your CPU.

If you OC and keep the temps at decent levels there is NO reason that the product wont last it's expected lifetime.

Too much voltage and heat are what lower the expectancy most.
 
MC FLMJIG said:
It may kill the CPU if it is running at extremely high 24/7. If you OC your CPU and the temps are running in the 80c then even at stock it will kill of your CPU.

If you OC and keep the temps at decent levels there is NO reason that the product wont last it's expected lifetime.

Too much voltage and heat are what lower the expectancy most.
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Pretty much any modern CPU won't let itself overheat, so heat isn't likely to kill the chip. Hot CPUs will have a shorter life, but no one has any idea what the lifespan of a CPU is to begin with. CPUs from the 80s are still going strong, so if my X2 losses 10 years off its life, I won't care because CPUs seem to have at least a 30 year life span, but in 20 years I certainly won't still be running this same machine :D
 
This is true. Forgot about that.

So pretty much too much V or just having a faulty chip.
 
Draziom said:
it wont last more than 2 years. the reality is OC hardware lasts a lot less than default manufacturers settings. now thats a fact jack.
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not if all temps stays the same. oc caused major heat problems? fix your heat problems then, that's simple :rolleyes:
 
ashmedai said:
What you seem not to realize is that Intel doesn't set up a separate production line for each individual binning they plan to sell - one chip design will get tested against a series of clock rates, and sold at that rate if it passes the tests. As an overclocker, you don't (usually) have access to the multiplier setting that the higher-binned chip would be using, but this rarely makes much of a difference - in fact, a very high portion of chips can be made to run well above the highest binning, even if you purchased a low binning chip. With modern production, a low-binned chip didn't usually *ever* get tested against the higher clock rates, that's just what they ended up locking it to so they had enough parts of each binning to meet expected sales. This allows them to bolster sales by having several price points. Overclocking sometimes requires a bit of tweaking which isn't appropriate when you want to sell to the general public or to businesses that are assembling a great many systems.

As overclockers, we can take advantage of these aspects of the market to push our systems above and beyond what they're guaranteed to be able to do - that's ALL the stock clock rate means to us.
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Thats only the half of it. Intel and AMD stress their chips in the worst possible conditions, like 45C (110F) ambient on a stock cooler thats purposely been filled with dust. If It cant perform in these conditions at rated speed, its either ditched or rebinned. Now even if it only barely passes that test, your still going to put it in a condition where its going to be in nice cool 20C ambient and possibly even a clean after market cooler. The result is OC head room.

Furthermore, the number of E6300s produced far outweighs the number of X6800s produced, so there is more than an outstanding chance that your E6300 would pass X6800 required specs, it just never got the chance (until you give it the chance).

As for your OC, I think the ATI drivers must have been throttling you back. I've never heard or seen this behavior before but then I haven't seriously overclocked an ATI card in a while.
 
I always overclock my stuff, especially CPUs and GPUs. I've had my 3800+X2 in my rig for a long time now...almost 3 years I think. It's on 24/7, and it's been OC'd about 25% that entire time. Not broken yet and no instability to speak of.
 
Draziom said:
overclocking is not worth it at all. the benfits are so small its totally worthless. cpu overclocking isnt worth it, neither is RAM. the only thing that matters most is your video card that has to be extremely robust. NVIDIA needs to make a more powerful card more powerful than the 9800gx2.
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This has got to be the MOST uninformed and ignorant statement I have ever heard in all of my tenure on computer forums LOL.

DO NOT listen to this person as he obviously has absolutely unequivically NO CLUE what he is talking about.

Sorry...I dont mean to be harsh, but thats the truth.

No effect huh? So if you take a Q6600 that runs stock at 2.4Ghz, and overclock it to 3.0 Ghz so that it is the same speed as a QX9650 that has no effect? So there is no difference whatsoever between the QX9650 Extreme Proc and the Q6600 Kentsfield????

1 small truth is that overclocking and overvolting DOES unequivically shorten the lifespan of your processor. Considering your average CPU lifespan is about 10 years, perhaps you will only have 6 or 7 years with an overclocked processor.

How many of us keep a CPU for 6+ years?

6 years is SOOOOO old for computer hardware I couldnt even tell you what came out 6 years ago....Pentium 2?? Either way, processors are outdated before they die of old age :D

Regarding GPUs the performance enhancements extreme, and the likelihood of death is slim. In addition to that most or many GPU manufactrers offer lifetime warranties that cover overclocking (EVGA, XFX, and perhaps BFG as well).
 
Dawgdoc said:
1 small truth is that overclocking and overvolting DOES unequivically shorten the lifespan of your processor. Considering your average CPU lifespan is about 10 years, perhaps you will only have 6 or 7 years with an overclocked processor.
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I disagree with this. I have seen zero evidence that OCing will decrease the lifespan of a processor. Overvolting may, but not just overclocking (and given that so many C2Ds are getting crazy high clocks at stock, that is a distinction that needs be made). Also, how do you figure the CPU lifespan is about 10 years? 9 years ago the P3 launched, and 12 years ago was the P2. I have several machines of each that still work the same the day they were made. Same with some old 386 and 486 machines, which came out 22 and 19 years ago, respectively. Hell, of the numerous computers I've used, I haven't had a single CPU just drop dead from "old age" - has anyone here? And, of course, anyone who is over clocking is likely keeping a sharp eye on their CPU temperature, which will help prolong the CPUs life.

I do agree that should the lifespan theoretically be lessened, it is still so long that it doesn't matter as you will have chucked it in a trash can or a closest and forgotten about it long before it dies.
 
The 10 year lifespan was an arbitrary estimation on my behalf

My main point was that even though the lifespan is shortened, it still FAR exceeds the typical time someone uses a CPU prior to an upgrade.
 
dd051 said:
how frequently do you all replace your gpus
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9600SE overclocked and still going strong.

Saying that there is no difference between un oced stuff and oced stuff is like saying theres no difference created by clock speeds. If that were true, a QX6800 coupled with a 9800GTX would perform identically to a Q6600 and an 8800GTS 512mb, simply not the case.
 
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