Outlook 2003/2007 Vs. Thunderbird

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Which client do you guys like better for just e-mail? I have 6 email accounts to manage and Outlook 2003 seems to make it hard to manage them all, it all dumps it into one inbox folder. Although, I do love outlook 2003's spam blocking.
 
You should be able to create message rules to filter each of your six accounts into a seperate folder on outlook 03/07. I've had a complaint from a coworker than outlook07 (unlike 03) doesn't display the new email tray icon if an incoming message is moved out of inbox though.
 
Just installed Thunderbird and I LOVE it! Bye Bye Outlook 2003... which I have been using for years.

Just a nice fast interface and manages multiple email accounts miraculously!
 
i just find outlook more powerful and considerably better at making rules for emails - right click - rule, done

thuderbird is so tedious in making rules...


it dumps it in the inbox because you didnt make any rules to tell it otherwise.
 
I love outlook, I use it all day at my work
lately I installed Office 2007, I loved everything in it except outlook 2007, its much heavier than 2003 and the only way to view the animation in the animated GIF’s is to open the message through the browser
 
Outlook for POP3 and Exchange, Thunderbird for IMAP...


Outlook cannot handle IMAP properly.
 
I've been using Outlook for years... but I am REALLY liking thunderbird. I juse use email and I never use mail filtering.

Plus I hate backing up outlook. The .pst only back's up emails/contacts. Not email accounts and settings... can be pretty annoying to recover from reformats.
 
I wish Evolution had a Windows version because I think its better than both Outlook and Thunderbird, but it doesn't so I use Thunderbird. I have used Outlook 2007 though, and I have to say it is an improvement over previous versions.
 
can anyone tell me how to connect Thunderbird to windows live mail (if it was possible) please?
 
ZzBloopzZ said:
Which client do you guys like better for just e-mail? I have 6 email accounts to manage and Outlook 2003 seems to make it hard to manage them all, it all dumps it into one inbox folder. Although, I do love outlook 2003's spam blocking.
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Go and make more PST files.. make one for each email account.

Then select the account from the account list and at the bottom of that window, there will be the option for which folder you want to deliver the mail to. Set each account to a different PST file.

Oh, and Outlook is worlds better than Thunderbird. Outlook Express and Thunderbird are a better match up to compare with.
 
I use SeaMonkey Mail & Newsgroups, which is the parent of Thunderbird. Outlook is more than an email client though, it's also a full PIM suite and Exchange client.
 
Thunderbird + Lighting (calendar) + Provider for GData - allows bidirectional access to google calendar. Been using it for 3 accounts, no complaints.
 
I have had some pretty glitchy things happen with Thunderbird over the years. The one that sticks out in my mind the most was something to do with the index for my maibox or something. My email messages were all gone.. vanashed. I had to go and delete some file, and run some command line option for Thunderbird so it would come up with a profile selection window. I think I had had to make new profile and then copy the mail box files from my old one to it with Explorer.

Now days I no longer have any email programs installed on my PC at home. I access my work email through our corporate Exhange server with Outlook on my WM6 phone and I get my Gmail through their IMAP4 service on my phone's Outlook now that Gmail's IMAP4 service works.
 
devman said:
I wish Evolution had a Windows version because I think its better than both Outlook and Thunderbird, but it doesn't so I use Thunderbird. I have used Outlook 2007 though, and I have to say it is an improvement over previous versions.
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I'll be honest, I haven't been impressed with Evolution at all. It was incredibly slow and wouldn't sync right with my schools IMAP. Right now I'm using Outlook 07 and wouldn't have it any other way!
 
Hurdler said:
I'll be honest, I haven't been impressed with Evolution at all. It was incredibly slow and wouldn't sync right with my schools IMAP. Right now I'm using Outlook 07 and wouldn't have it any other way!
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One keypoint is, however, that it is a free Exchange client. The current iteration of Evolution that comes with Ubuntu 7.10 is pretty nice.
 
I use Thunderbird/IMAP and am continuously impressed. I prefer it to Outlook 2003 at work.
 
Met-AL said:
I have had some pretty glitchy things happen with Thunderbird over the years. The one that sticks out in my mind the most was something to do with the index for my maibox or something. My email messages were all gone.. vanashed. I had to go and delete some file, and run some command line option for Thunderbird so it would come up with a profile selection window. I think I had had to make new profile and then copy the mail box files from my old one to it with Explorer.

Now days I no longer have any email programs installed on my PC at home. I access my work email through our corporate Exhange server with Outlook on my WM6 phone and I get my Gmail through their IMAP4 service on my phone's Outlook now that Gmail's IMAP4 service works.
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I have had that happen, I switched back to outlook express when it did. Never had any problems with outlook express for the many years I used it. With in 1 month of using thunderbird all my emails just vanished!
 
Well I been using Outlook 2007 for the past 24 hours and I really do like it. Works great with IMAP for my google accounts. It seems to overall flow better then Thunderbird, plus I think I'm going to start using the calender and task features. Plus I have been using Outlook 03 for years and just use to/like the interface.

Thanks guys!
 
Met-AL said:
Go and make more PST files.. make one for each email account.

Then select the account from the account list and at the bottom of that window, there will be the option for which folder you want to deliver the mail to. Set each account to a different PST file.

Oh, and Outlook is worlds better than Thunderbird. Outlook Express and Thunderbird are a better match up to compare with.
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you dont need to make any more PST files at all, more work that isn't necessary.. just right click the email and create a rule, done.



and what issues does outlook have with IMAP? never ran into any myself...
 
MrGuvernment said:
you dont need to make any more PST files at all, more work that isn't necessary.. just right click the email and create a rule, done.



and what issues does outlook have with IMAP? never ran into any myself...
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The biggest one is that it often won't delete an e-mail from the server. You have to delete it, and then purge deleted items. It's not so much a "problem" as it is an annoyance. Gmail is the only IMAP e-mail account I have where just deleting an e-mail in Outlook will delete the message off the server.
 
MrGuvernment said:
you dont need to make any more PST files at all, more work that isn't necessary.. just right click the email and create a rule, done.



and what issues does outlook have with IMAP? never ran into any myself...
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I prefer to have separate mailboxes over client rules.

I didn't know Outlook was having problems with IMAP. Gmail was having IMAP issues with Windows Mobile Outlook regarding some issues with html email headers that was just recently fixed. http://mobilitytoday.com/news/008324/google_mail_fix
 
All of the Outlook love is funny because just last night I spent two hours on the phone trying to help my father-in-law repair a PST that Outlook 07 b0rked on its own. Eventually he gave up and in his frustration he uninstalled Office 2007 and then asked "what's that OpenOffice thing you told me about?"

So, I spent the next ten minutes helping him download and install OpenOffice as well as Thunderbird for his mail.

All this without any provocation from me. He finally got pissed off enough that he removed Office and bid it good riddance.
 
It's funny why? Because your step daddy can't figure it out?
 
Met-AL said:
It's funny why? Because your step daddy can't figure it out?
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It's funny because he didn't do anything to cause it. And, then MS's own ScanPST program won't recognize it as a valid PST. It's a cautionary tale of proprietary, binary-only formats.
 
Hurdler said:
The biggest one is that it often won't delete an e-mail from the server. You have to delete it, and then purge deleted items. It's not so much a "problem" as it is an annoyance. Gmail is the only IMAP e-mail account I have where just deleting an e-mail in Outlook will delete the message off the server.
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Exactly. Outlook locally deletes files and will not let you setup rules on what folders to put things in (like Drafts, Sent items, Deleted items, etc.). It works fine if you only use outlook on your one machine with your IMAP, but if you use IMAP like it was designed, multiple access locations with multiple local clients, outlook does not put things properly on the server.
 
i got to get used to multiquote



Hurdler said:
The biggest one is that it often won't delete an e-mail from the server. You have to delete it, and then purge deleted items. It's not so much a "problem" as it is an annoyance. Gmail is the only IMAP e-mail account I have where just deleting an e-mail in Outlook will delete the message off the server.
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I thought this was only an issue with outlook express, as i know you have to do it with express to remove them, purge.


Hurdler said:
The biggest one is that it often won't delete an e-mail from the server. You have to delete it, and then purge deleted items. It's not so much a "problem" as it is an annoyance. Gmail is the only IMAP e-mail account I have where just deleting an e-mail in Outlook will delete the message off the server.
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So then doesnt that say something about other IMAP then if it works fine for gmail...


svet-am said:
It's funny because he didn't do anything to cause it. And, then MS's own ScanPST program won't recognize it as a valid PST. It's a cautionary tale of proprietary, binary-only formats.
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perhaps his harddrive corrupted it, bad sectors, never once has scanpst not fixed a PST file for me in over . mmmmm, 9 years working with outlook where i have had to repair PST files and many of them well over 3-4G in size.


what does suck about thunderbird, good luck ever getting your email exported to go into outlook express or outlook..... the steps you need to take are ridiculous.


Grentz said:
Exactly. Outlook locally deletes files and will not let you setup rules on what folders to put things in (like Drafts, Sent items, Deleted items, etc.). It works fine if you only use outlook on your one machine with your IMAP, but if you use IMAP like it was designed, multiple access locations with multiple local clients, outlook does not put things properly on the server.
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If you use it with exchange it works fine through IMAP :)
 
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