OnePlus 7 and 7 Pro

Vengance_01

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Yup DXO is over rated. Over the years one plus has gotten better and it can take some pretty decent photos. Just not consitantly. I would put one plus just 1 notch below the top tier camera like apple, Google, Samsung and huawei. By no means is it a bad camera. I am okay with photos it takes. Some are not. That's why we have plenty of good choices
 

IdiotInCharge

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I don’t own either a Pixel 4 nor a Oneplus 7T but the high DXO rating for the 7T seems like BS. You can see both reviewers and owners on the OP forums complain about the oil painting/watercolor effect in the photos (especially at 100%) which has historically been a major weakness of Oneplus. Not docking tons of points or even pointing that out just screams either incompetence or... an even less savory possibility.
I see them as having some limited usefulness for sensors where near RAW output is available; for phones, that is simply not the case. Phone output is at the very opposite end with the most advanced processing that can be done on a consumer device (and also with the help of cloud resources!).

On my 3a, as the light drops, I chuckle a little to myself about how good the cameras turn images and video into mud with insanely aggressive noise reduction. The output is still impressive, but it's most certainly not due to a better sensor but rather far better processing.
 

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I got the 7T and i love it coming from a Pixel 3. I use Mint Mobile. Service is great i get all the features like voice over LTE and wifi calling. Very happy with this phone. Camera is very good.
 

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Just picked up the TMobile 7t. Only dislikes are the crazy high standby drain. ie: I'll charge the freshly formatted phone - nothing personal added yet, unplug it, walk away for 8 hours (intentional non-scientific test), come back and it'll have used up 27-30% of the battery. And the system partitions are freaking huge. 128GB phone has less than 100GB (97GB tbe).

Beyond that, very happy. It's fast, has decent SOT regardless of the battery drain (that bothers me more over battery health rather than cellpeen stats). And it's not ugly. Personally found the 7Pro a bit fuggered.
 

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Just picked up the TMobile 7t. Only dislikes are the crazy high standby drain. ie: I'll charge the freshly formatted phone - nothing personal added yet, unplug it, walk away for 8 hours (intentional non-scientific test), come back and it'll have used up 27-30% of the battery. And the system partitions are freaking huge. 128GB phone has less than 100GB (97GB tbe).

Beyond that, very happy. It's fast, has decent SOT regardless of the battery drain (that bothers me more over battery health rather than cellpeen stats). And it's not ugly. Personally found the 7Pro a bit fuggered.

The 1st day or 2 of having the phone i had battery drain. After like a couple of days i started get alot better battery life. i avg about 6-7hrs sot
 

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For those interested....

$150 price drop to $549 on the OnePlus 7 Pro 8GB/256GB. All colors.

Direct from OnePlus

7T must be killing sales of the Pro
 

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That's crazy- the supposedly better phone is cheaper? Shows (imho) how much customers don't want curved screens and moving parts...
I'm not even unhappy a little bit about my 7t price. Lol! Maybe 4-425 and I might be a little.. but I really didn't want curved screen or mechanical camera.. 8 vs 12g ram was my only complaint and tbh not sure it matters this thing is wicked fast
 

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I've had the 5T for a while now. Can't complain. It's still as lightning fast as the day I bought it. I plan on staying w/in the oneplus family for quite some time. The only pixel left worth the money is the 3a.

I got the 7T and i love it coming from a Pixel 3. I use Mint Mobile. Service is great i get all the features like voice over LTE and wifi calling. Very happy with this phone. Camera is very good.
How's the coverage on Mint? I currently run my 5T on cricket and getting tired of Cricket's 8mbps LTE speed. Coverage is great but the speed kinda sucks.
 

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Anyone grabbed a 7T Pro McLaren 5G yet? What a beast. First phone that looks like perfection and doesn't leave me fence sitting due to some missing feature or nitpick.

Notch from the 7T is gone
90Hz display
Snapdragon 855+
12GB ram
5G on T-Mobile (as well as Sprint towers once they fold into Tmo)
Fast Warp charging
 

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Anyone grabbed a 7T Pro McLaren 5G yet? What a beast. First phone that looks like perfection and doesn't leave me fence sitting due to some missing feature or nitpick.

Notch from the 7T is gone
90Hz display
Snapdragon 855+
12GB ram
5G on T-Mobile (as well as Sprint towers once they fold into Tmo)
Fast Warp charging
Current T-Mobile 5G is marginally faster than their LTE as it is not the mmWave type so I wouldn’t buy a phone just for that.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/lifeha...5g-network-ready-for-primetime-1840397246/amp


T-Mobile might call its 5G network Nationwide 5G, but it’s not real 5G. Like other carriers, T-Mobile uses what’s called “low-band” 5G, as opposed to the faster “millimeter wave” (mmWave) or high-band 5G. The latter is the “true” 5G technology, as it takes advantage of an unused spectrum of radio frequencies for faster communication and data speeds. Low-band 5G, on the other hand, is technically 5G, but it can’t match the performance of mmWave.
 

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I think it's fairly important to think of 5G as being a new technology that improves all frequencies, and brings a new mm wave band with crazy high speeds but limitations that will make it useless 95+% of the time. Honestly, getting a bump on the existing frequencies and being to be closer to full speed on them will be a bigger improvement.
 

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Doesn't OnePlus have plans for a 55" Smart TV running their OS, and do all the hot streaming channels, with 4k and HDR. This might be what they will announce
 

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bah 499$ Then the cost to replace the screen should go down. Paid 699$ for my 7 Pro just because I needed a phone :/
 

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T-Mobile might call its 5G network Nationwide 5G, but it’s not real 5G. Like other carriers, T-Mobile uses what’s called “low-band” 5G, as opposed to the faster “millimeter wave” (mmWave) or high-band 5G. The latter is the “true” 5G technology, as it takes advantage of an unused spectrum of radio frequencies for faster communication and data speeds. Low-band 5G, on the other hand, is technically 5G, but it can’t match the performance of mmWave.
At least it's actually 5G tech, unlike the BS ATT pulled with LTE and renaming higher-speed 3G to 4G. ATT tried it again with 5G and are currently being sued for it.
 

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At least it's actually 5G tech, unlike the BS ATT pulled with LTE and renaming higher-speed 3G to 4G. ATT tried it again with 5G and are currently being sued for it.
No argument there but they are doing the same thing essentially as mmWave 5G is magnitudes faster than the 5G T-Mobile is activating. It will give many a bad taste for what 5G will be capable of when they don’t see speeds any faster than current LTE (which is fast enough for most users to begin with).
 

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mmWave is basically going to be useless. None of the carriers will invest enough to make it worthwhile (see the stadium they failed to cover with mmWave).

Low band 5G will give better average speeds than 4G (even LTE Advanced) because of less congestion. T-Mobile also puts it at the very low frequencies that get good penetration. People will definitely notice the signal in places that normally wouldn't get much signal.
 

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MKBHD gave the OP 7 Pro phone of the year, which I agree with.


He also gave the Pixel 4 "Bust of the year", which I also agree with being a current Pixel 2 XL owner and couldn't bring myself to replace it with the Pixel 4 XL due to it not competing well or meeting my expectations of a $800+ phone, or even a $600+ phone when it was on sale over the holidays.
 

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MKBHD gave the OP 7 Pro phone of the year, which I agree with.


He also gave the Pixel 4 "Bust of the year", which I also agree with being a current Pixel 2 XL owner and couldn't bring myself to replace it with the Pixel 4 XL due to it not competing well or meeting my expectations of a $800+ phone, or even a $600+ phone when it was on sale over the holidays.
I generally agree with Marques, although I couldn't bring myself to buy an OP7 Pro at this point due to the camera -- I prefer a genuinely good camera as opposed to "I can live with it given the other features."
 

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I generally agree with Marques, although I couldn't bring myself to buy an OP7 Pro at this point due to the camera -- I prefer a genuinely good camera as opposed to "I can live with it given the other features."
That's the only reason I haven't replaced my 2 XL with an OP phone yet, because it would be the only area where I'd get a downgrade and with all the traveling I'm doing now that I'm in Europe for a few years, I want to have a camera at least as good or better than my existing phone. But there have been times where I'd really like a wide-angle camera too, which is one of the main reasons I don't want to get the Pixel 4 either. So I'm hoping OP really steps it up with the OP 8 phones in the camera dept. The thing is, it's mostly software too, so there's no reason why their existing hardware couldn't take pics nearly as good as the Pixel phones, they just need to figure out the camera app and some better processing techniques, since it seems most higher end Android phones now use the same camera hardware/sensors.

Before I came to Europe, I didn't really care about camera quality, as any existing phone took good enough pics for me in the few occasions I used the camera, but my priorities have changed now that I'm traveling much more and have more to see around me. Otherwise I would have already picked up a current OP phone and been good to go.
 

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Owning both a Pixel 4 (my first Pixel phone) and the OP7P I have to disagree with him. The OP7P is a great phone on paper, which is was persuaded me and my girl to buy one each.

I wasnt happy with this decision coming from an iPhone X. The camera felt like a step down, and the size got to me, as much as I love screen real estate it became pointless when I couldn't use my phone without a second hand.

Thing is we got our phones at Tmobile, and she doesn't want to switch to the international firmware on her OP7P so she's still stuck on Android 9 with the September patch which is ludicrous for a phone that's not even a year old to get that lackluster of service from T-Mobile.

Sadly though, it seems like a trend with T-Mobile: phones that don't sell well will get put on the back burner for updates. With the release of the 7T it seems to have exasperated this issue. With the Pixel 4 regardless of popularity, sales figures, newer models I'll get updates relatively close to their official release.

With the P4 I got one handed usability, a better camera, and guaranteed updates that I don't have to wait months for. Battery issues to me aren't a huge deal, I get through a day on a single charge and usually end my day at 30-35%.

Ultimately though, getting a P4 reminds me of how much I miss my iPhone X. The 11 (or 12) would be the only other phones I'd consider getting over a Pixel.

I'd also like to add with the supposed quarterly feature drops it's a nice touch that adds a bit of value to being a Pixel owner.
 
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The regular cheap version of the iPhone 11 isn’t even being considered. Sure, if he’s only going to use the best model of the phone, okay, that list is great! But completely ignoring that a flagship iPhone exists at under $700 or $50 more than the original price of his MVP device makes that list kind of incomplete.
 
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The regular cheap version of the iPhone 11 isn’t even being considered. Sure, if he’s only going to use the best model of the phone, okay, that list is great! But completely ignoring that a flagship iPhone exists at under $700 or $50 than the original price of his MVP device makes that list kind of incomplete.
YouTube reviewers look mostly at specs. They ignore that people would be willing to spend more or less for certain features regardless of specs. The iPhone 11 is the phone I honestly wish I had gotten. To me that's probably the phone off the year in terms of value. Great camera, lots of storage for a relatively good price for an apple device, 5 years of on time updates, and Apple has hands down the best customer service I've seen for an electronics company.
 

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The regular cheap version of the iPhone 11 isn’t even being considered. Sure, if he’s only going to use the best model of the phone, okay, that list is great! But completely ignoring that a flagship iPhone exists at under $700 or $50 than the original price of his MVP device makes that list kind of incomplete.
I suspect it was Marques being honest about what would make him happy -- if he was going to go full-time with an iPhone, it'd be the 11 Pro or Pro Max. I don't think he'd even dispute that the iPhone 11 would be a great choice for many people, just that the OP7 Pro scratches his itch more in that price range.
 
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I’m not saying he’s wrong, just incomplete... or missing something. MVP is the Most Valuable Phone. I would much rather spend $50 more on an iPhone over this OP7P if we’re talking about value. But it’s not even on his table...
 

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I’m not saying he’s wrong, just incomplete... or missing something. MVP is the Most Valuable Phone. I would much rather spend $50 more on an iPhone over this OP7P if we’re talking about value. But it’s not even on his table...
Nah, I disagree. Most people, esp. MKB, prefer larger phones now, hence the preference for the OP7 Pro over the base iPhone 11. At least that's what I've observed from seeing more Plus/Max iPhones, S+, and Note phones in the wild over their smaller equivalents.

I thought he did a good job at giving it credit where it was due for being the best small phone and runner up for best battery life. I can totally see where some people would see better value in the iPhone 11 over an OP phone or anything else, but in the context of his awards and preferences, his choice was pretty appropriate and expected, IMO.
 
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Had every oneplus since the one. I stopped buying them at the 5 as the camera never hit my level of acceptable.
 

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Had every oneplus since the one. I stopped buying them at the 5 as the camera never hit my level of acceptable.
My experience to a T. My oldest son is using my OnePlus 5 after I got fed up with the camera. Moved to an iPhone and currently using the iPhone 11.
 

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I don't care much about having the best camera., I just don't take that many pictures. I like the software and update schedule that OP puts out.
 
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