Official LG 23" 16:9 IPS thread

It's not even a monitor by LG, it's a panel they developed and most likely be used on other brands (read: Apple)
 
R0achTheWarHero said:
I made this thread to keep up to date on this monitor:

http://www.displayblog.com/2009/01/28/lg-display-lpl-23-e-ips-1080p-lcd-monitor-panel/

I think it will be the next big thing and take the US IPS crown from the semi-craptacular HP LP2475.

The image on the monitor appears to be fake to me in the picture since the mouse cursor is so large and weird.
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e-IPS=economy IPS=detuned IPS=suckage?

Plus I'm not really a fan of this new trend to make monitors smaller by using the 16:9 ratio. A 23" 16:9 panel is nearly identical in vertical size to a 19" 4:3.
 
crazycap said:
It's not even a monitor by LG, it's a panel they developed and most likely be used on other brands (read: Apple)
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Your attempt at adding something of value to the thread has been duly noted but everyone knows this already. Chances are, LG will release this panel as well as other vendors also. This thread is for monitors using the panel since it will most likely become the new best option for IPS instead of HP 2475.
 
If it's anything like the 2209WA (the 22" e-IPS) I'll definitely be getting one, maybe two.
 
Looks good.

Standard gamut, IPS, inexpensive and likely good response time. This is now likely going to fill in the void previously occupied by high lag S-PVA panels at the 23 to 24" range.

If LGs quality can keep up, this will be the new panel du jour.

R0ach, why do you call the HP semi craptacular? Other than wide gamut and a frame+ of input lag I can't see any major issues with it... Some have complained about text quality, but the standard three line H-IPS pixel structure is known to give text quality superior to MVA/PVA and close to TN panels which usually are exemplary in this respect from what I've seen.
 
Nothing wrong with my LP2475w.

LG makes the panels, but I doubt they will put it their own brand monitor, since they don't have a history of this behaviour with IPS variants. I can think of only one IPS LG branded screen, and it's only available outside NA.
 
vick1000 said:
Nothing wrong with my LP2475w.

LG makes the panels, but I doubt they will put it their own brand monitor, since they don't have a history of this behaviour with IPS variants. I can think of only one IPS LG branded screen, and it's only available outside NA.
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That's my point, but OP can't pull himself out of his fancy dream

R0achTheWarHero said:
Wide gamut, too many people with text issues, little high input lag for IPS, should be more like 12-20ms.
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Thanks for giving your opinion on something you don't even own or tried. I thought this is serious business.....
 
So what brand names are likely to use this panel sooner or later?
No chance it will be in a Dell, correct?
 
Other than input lag, all the problems on this screen have more to do with LG's poor initial quality than anything else.

Hopefully the 22" and 23" panels from LG will skip this initial "teething period" with quality.

R0achTheWarHero said:
Wide gamut, too many people with text issues, little high input lag for IPS, should be more like 12-20ms.
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crazycap said:
Thanks for giving your opinion on something you don't even own or tried. I thought this is serious business.....
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I've owned a wide gamut 32inch LCD and used it for PC, I know what wide gamut looks like. It's basically like having digital vibrance turned on 20% and you can't do anything about it. Is there anything else you would like to whine about because you're not adding anything to this thread besides trying to point out linguistics omissions to try and make yourself feel smart.

10e said:
Other than input lag, all the problems on this screen have more to do with LG's poor initial quality than anything else.
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It has more to do with HP being a shitty company. The HP w2207 used a Samsung TN panel for a while. The Samsung brand monitor that used the same Samsung panel had good text, somehow the HP engineers (probably based in India or something) managed to screw up the HP using the same panel and make it have fringed text. It looked fine with black text on white background, except when clicking on the bookmarks tab in firefox the text looked all fried.

I've never heard of text complaints on an IPS before until that HP. I've also never seen a TN panel with screwed up text until that HP 2207
 
If the 23" 16:9 panel is anything like the 22" 16:10 version that is in the Dell 2209WA, then I am sure the people who buy one will be pleased.
 
Any updates on this? I think this will be the perfect LCD for me. The 24" 1920 panels might be a tad too big in my opinion and 20.1inch as i have today is too small. A 23" @ 1920x1080 should be just right and e-ips is what I've been waiting for. If it's not here be Windows 7 final then I'll have to get the HP 2475.
 
HenryBravo said:
e-IPS=economy IPS=detuned IPS=suckage?

Plus I'm not really a fan of this new trend to make monitors smaller by using the 16:9 ratio. A 23" 16:9 panel is nearly identical in vertical size to a 19" 4:3.
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E-IPS = simplified H-IPS substrate on TN backlight and other electronics. It by NO mean suckage.

A Chinese review site talked about e-ips, in http://financenews.sina.com/h/2009-02-13/09542820566.shtml. It suffers apparently an issue of homogeneity with panels themselves and that the power consumption is at least 30 watt higher than the TN of 24" size.

e-ips has a much better viewing angle, being a derivative of H-IPS. It also has a much higher contrast ratio than a TN, and runs 8bit so that your green isn't totally slaughtered. Color degree uniformity is something that E-IPS has going for it too.

it.people.com.cn is saying that LGD manufactured the e-IPS in the Nanjing, China plant. By the way, E-IPS has poorer polarizer and filter as well as backlight comparing to the more expensive IPS panels, so the sucker will be more susceptible to bleeding.

@whoisthisreally: I used the wrong choice of words when translating off of sina.com
 
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hmm... I'm not an LG fan by any stretch of the imagination, but that screen doesn't look so bad... If the input lag times are as good as or better than the 2209WA's this could be a top choice for a PC/Xbox 360 college setup.
 
HenryBravo said:
e-IPS=economy IPS=detuned IPS=suckage?

Plus I'm not really a fan of this new trend to make monitors smaller by using the 16:9 ratio. A 23" 16:9 panel is nearly identical in vertical size to a 19" 4:3.
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The 16:9 trend is not "making monitors smaller," it's replacing 22" 1680x1050 displays with 23" 1920x1080 display. 1920x1080 displays weren't used from the start only because of their cost. Now that they're affordable, it's not surprising that they're being quickly adopted. 16:9 screens are much better for multimedia setups; they conform to the 16:9 widescreen standard that has been used for home displays and will most likely become much more pervasive in the future.
 
I just wait for 25" 16:9 screens to replace 24" 16:10

Right now there are not many bigger 16:9 monitors out there.
 
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