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tehslippery
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I'm just curious if official forums for all games are like this.
This is going to be a kind of long post, because I believe things should always be taken in context. When you take things out of context it gets a little crazy.
I'm the guild leader of a guild that has been WW1 in EQ2 for years now. At this point, the devs really don't like us. I'm opinionated, if I think an encounter is poorly designed/broken I'll tell you. I might come across as an asshole, but I don't just go I'm right you're wrong neener neener, I'll actually tell you why it's broken and how you can fix it. The vast majority of the changes to raid content for the past 4-5 years have been based on my feedback. When I feedback an encounter I try to get as little changed as possible that will make it killable while maintaining the flavor of the encounter. Generally when they get changed based on my feedback someone will kill them, but it's a slow stream of kills over a prolonged period of time, not a rush of kills all at once.
I've had a rash of posts getting deleted on the EQ2 forums lately, some of them are laughable. I want to know if you guys think I'm out of line and why, or if some of this is just really laughable moderation.
Context: Beta testing a new raid zone they posted they were only going to give very limited access to very few guilds to test the zone, and only pieces of it at a time. This is after one of the previous zones they released had a mob that literally took 6 months to get fixed. Every time they patched the mob they broke something else. Oh, and that's after when the mob was launched we got told "The mob works fine, you just need more practice." Followed by those 6 months of the mob being broken in numerous different ways. A mob that I told them all the broken stuff before it ever went live for just a couple pulls in that Beta. Said mob spawned 3-4 different very long threads over those 6 months about all the things wrong with it and why it was such a bad encounter.
The following was deleted for the reason that it was "nonconstructive"
Context: There is a very very long solo quest line that you have to complete to unlock the ability to loot the current tier token rewards for group/raid. The tokens allow you to buy adorns (stuff you slot in gear) and some group level gear. With the most recent patch they added a second tier of token gear that was basically equal to the current lowest tier raid gear, but requires the previous piece as well to buy it. The stuff from the tokens is heirloom (account bound and you can trade it to your alts). When you equip it is bound to that character. Someone created a thread talking about how it sucks because you can't take the piece of gear off the alt to give it to the character that can actually purchase it, meaning they would have to do the really long and tedious solo quest line again. My response (and I've posted a few times elsewhere about how the solo quest line should not lock group and raid stuff) that was deleted for trolling.
Context: The new raid zone previously mentioned that has now been live for about 5 weeks. It's discussing the Challenge Mode (hardest version) of the mob that has yet to be killed. To anyone who has actually done the encounter it's blatantly obvious that the dps check is out of line and just way too high, making the encounter unkillable.
The dev posted the following 2 posts
As a note, some of the fixed things weren't problems (urchins killing players too far) or weren't fixed at all (pool color). My following post got deleted pretty quickly for "trolling"
Then later that night after again pulling said mob that they aren't going to include changes in patch notes for I posted the following. As for why so many really's, that's actually directed at the forum admin because if you post something along the lines of "this is abysmally horrible" it gets deleted for trolling. The following post was then deleted for "discussion of moderation" and I got suspended for 3 days. lol.
What makes this even better? How could it possibly get better you ask! They then proceeded to backtrack both points I just got suspended for "trolling" about (not putting stuff in patch notes being incredibly dumb, and the mob is not fine it needs to be changed) .
Am I out of line, or is this just laughable? All I can really do is laugh, because at this point I can't help but find it really funny.
This is going to be a kind of long post, because I believe things should always be taken in context. When you take things out of context it gets a little crazy.
I'm the guild leader of a guild that has been WW1 in EQ2 for years now. At this point, the devs really don't like us. I'm opinionated, if I think an encounter is poorly designed/broken I'll tell you. I might come across as an asshole, but I don't just go I'm right you're wrong neener neener, I'll actually tell you why it's broken and how you can fix it. The vast majority of the changes to raid content for the past 4-5 years have been based on my feedback. When I feedback an encounter I try to get as little changed as possible that will make it killable while maintaining the flavor of the encounter. Generally when they get changed based on my feedback someone will kill them, but it's a slow stream of kills over a prolonged period of time, not a rush of kills all at once.
I've had a rash of posts getting deleted on the EQ2 forums lately, some of them are laughable. I want to know if you guys think I'm out of line and why, or if some of this is just really laughable moderation.
Context: Beta testing a new raid zone they posted they were only going to give very limited access to very few guilds to test the zone, and only pieces of it at a time. This is after one of the previous zones they released had a mob that literally took 6 months to get fixed. Every time they patched the mob they broke something else. Oh, and that's after when the mob was launched we got told "The mob works fine, you just need more practice." Followed by those 6 months of the mob being broken in numerous different ways. A mob that I told them all the broken stuff before it ever went live for just a couple pulls in that Beta. Said mob spawned 3-4 different very long threads over those 6 months about all the things wrong with it and why it was such a bad encounter.
The following was deleted for the reason that it was "nonconstructive"
Context: There is a very very long solo quest line that you have to complete to unlock the ability to loot the current tier token rewards for group/raid. The tokens allow you to buy adorns (stuff you slot in gear) and some group level gear. With the most recent patch they added a second tier of token gear that was basically equal to the current lowest tier raid gear, but requires the previous piece as well to buy it. The stuff from the tokens is heirloom (account bound and you can trade it to your alts). When you equip it is bound to that character. Someone created a thread talking about how it sucks because you can't take the piece of gear off the alt to give it to the character that can actually purchase it, meaning they would have to do the really long and tedious solo quest line again. My response (and I've posted a few times elsewhere about how the solo quest line should not lock group and raid stuff) that was deleted for trolling.
Context: The new raid zone previously mentioned that has now been live for about 5 weeks. It's discussing the Challenge Mode (hardest version) of the mob that has yet to be killed. To anyone who has actually done the encounter it's blatantly obvious that the dps check is out of line and just way too high, making the encounter unkillable.
The dev posted the following 2 posts
EQ2Dev said:
EQ2Dev said:
As a note, some of the fixed things weren't problems (urchins killing players too far) or weren't fixed at all (pool color). My following post got deleted pretty quickly for "trolling"
Then later that night after again pulling said mob that they aren't going to include changes in patch notes for I posted the following. As for why so many really's, that's actually directed at the forum admin because if you post something along the lines of "this is abysmally horrible" it gets deleted for trolling. The following post was then deleted for "discussion of moderation" and I got suspended for 3 days. lol.
What makes this even better? How could it possibly get better you ask! They then proceeded to backtrack both points I just got suspended for "trolling" about (not putting stuff in patch notes being incredibly dumb, and the mob is not fine it needs to be changed) .
Different EQ2 Dev said:
Am I out of line, or is this just laughable? All I can really do is laugh, because at this point I can't help but find it really funny.
