Office 2010 Beta 2 - Your Thoughts?

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For those that have tried Office 2010 Beta 2, how do you like it? Is it stable?

I wonder if it'll be much better then 2007. There were great improvements from Vista to 7. Hope it will be the same with Office! :c)

Office 2007 SP2 did wonders for Outlook. I hope Outlook 2010 is good.
 
Hated the menu bars layout and design and deleted the beta within a few days, i'll stick with Office 2003 for awhile longer
 
Freezebyte said:
Hated the menu bars layout and design and deleted the beta within a few days, i'll stick with Office 2003 for awhile longer
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Hey, I loved ribbon (though it's a [whoowe baddie word] to learn and get used too. Some things just don't seem logical).

But I also downloaded an add-on that restored the original 2003 menu bars to the ribbon, under a new tab.
 
Freezebyte said:
Hated the menu bars layout and design and deleted the beta within a few days, i'll stick with Office 2003 for awhile longer
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The Ribbon in 2010 is a LOT more powerful than the one in 2007, its fully customizable, you can arrange the buttons and create and delete new tabs. It's on of the most flexible and straight forward UIs I've ever seen.

As for the products themselves they seem a little zippier but not radically different except Outlook and OneNote. Outlook has message threading, very nice email client now, but I like Outlook for email. Web based clients are just clunky though quick and convenient. OneNote has received a lot of improvements it seems. I LOVE OneNote.:D
 
I love that they moved the stupid "Office Button" down into it's own tab called "File" on the ribbon.
 
Love it so far. The new tabs across the board make things far more efficient. Love the 2010 Outlook. Can't wait for RTM.
 
It's badass.

You can go crazy with customizing it though, literally everything in the ribbon can be customized.

The Ribbon debate is long gone IMO, I didn't like it at first in 07, but got used to it and it works great for me. 2010 just improves things.
 
^^ you can have more then 1 excel window, you just have to open a new instance of excel each time.
 
Compatibility issues with Zimbra... our primary email server. Probably becuase its beta :)
 
i'm running 14.0.4536.1000, is this beta 2 or beta 1?

when i looked up beta 2 it said the build number was 14.0.4514.1009. my build number is higher (i think).

what build are the people running beta 2 running?
 
I hope they RTM it before this summer when my TechNet sub runs out.

Freezebyte said:
Hated the menu bars layout and design and deleted the beta within a few days, i'll stick with Office 2003 for awhile longer
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There's a learning curve, but the Ribbon makes a ton more sense. It has cut back tech support calls on Office stuff dramatically, and training new users is easy.

The only people it's a PITA for are people super familiar with Office 2003.
 
MrGuvernment said:
^^ you can have more then 1 excel window, you just have to open a new instance of excel each time.
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hah... you know, I never knew that.
Because who the hell opens up Excel first, then takes the additional steps to open the spreadsheet; when it's so much easier to just double-click the spreadsheet.
 
I don't know what you guys are talking about... I can double click two spreadsheets and get two windows in 2007 just fine.
2003? No.
 
ZzBloopzZ said:
I read somewhere that they are hoping to have RTM before/during the second quarter. So right before the summer! :c)
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June 2010 is what I read but Microsoft has released nothing official.

My Technet expires July 6.

:eek:

I hope I can get my 10 keys :D
 
j-sta said:
hah... you know, I never knew that.
Because who the hell opens up Excel first, then takes the additional steps to open the spreadsheet; when it's so much easier to just double-click the spreadsheet.
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i know, it sucks, drives me nuts when i want to do end of month numbers and i open in the same excel then i have to manually stretch it across my dual monitors then set my 2 separate files to fit nice i just open 2 excels.exe one on each screen and open the file in each i need.
 
TechieSooner said:
I don't know what you guys are talking about... I can double click two spreadsheets and get two windows in 2007 just fine.
2003? No.
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I get 2 "windows" yes, sorta kinda. The taskbar shows 2 open spreadsheets.
But, if I maximize one, move it, then maximize the other, it opens in the same "window"

So, while there is a separate tab for each document in the taskbar, both documents open up in the same actual Excel window on the screen. So I can still only view one document at a time, unless I manually size the Excel window to spread across both monitors, then have to manually resize each workbook.

if that makes any sense?
 
j-sta said:
I get 2 "windows" yes, sorta kinda. The taskbar shows 2 open spreadsheets.
But, if I maximize one, move it, then maximize the other, it opens in the same "window"

So, while there is a separate tab for each document in the taskbar, both documents open up in the same actual Excel window on the screen. So I can still only view one document at a time, unless I manually size the Excel window to spread across both monitors, then have to manually resize each workbook.

if that makes any sense?
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Ah yea, for multiple monitors. Yea, I've seen someone demonstrate that to me before. I personally only use one monitor so I never notice.
 
TechieSooner said:
Ah yea, for multiple monitors. Yea, I've seen someone demonstrate that to me before. I personally only use one monitor so I never notice.
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I never needed to do it myself; but when we first deployed Office '07 we had users complaining of having a spreadsheet open on each monitor so that data could be copied between the 2.

but I guess if it the same thing in '03, then eh... lol
 
I love Office 2007. Haven't tried 2010 though. I absolutely hate Outlook 2007 though; Outlook 2003 does it right -- as in, when you add multiple e-mail accounts, it creates a folder for each e-mail account, and each folder has its own set of Inbox, Sent Mail, Trash, etc.
 
Cerulean said:
I love Office 2007. Haven't tried 2010 though. I absolutely hate Outlook 2007 though; Outlook 2003 does it right -- as in, when you add multiple e-mail accounts, it creates a folder for each e-mail account, and each folder has its own set of Inbox, Sent Mail, Trash, etc.
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That's how Outlook 2007 does it as well.

And Outlook 2007 is a crap ton more versatile, you're on crack.

I can move a user's mailbox and not have to ever touch the client's machine and Outlook 2007 automatically points to the new server. Outlook 2003 is just like XP: antiquated and out of date.
 
TechieSooner said:
That's how Outlook 2007 does it as well.

And Outlook 2007 is a crap ton more versatile, you're on crack.

I can move a user's mailbox and not have to ever touch the client's machine and Outlook 2007 automatically points to the new server. Outlook 2003 is just like XP: antiquated and out of date.
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QFT! Outlook 2003 is more of a pain to migrate to a new system/OS. I ALWAYS had issues with IMAP + Gmail with 03, it works flawlessly on 07.

I would NEVER go back to 2003. Outlook 2007 is loads better.
 
TechieSooner said:
That's how Outlook 2007 does it as well.

And Outlook 2007 is a crap ton more versatile, you're on crack.

I can move a user's mailbox and not have to ever touch the client's machine and Outlook 2007 automatically points to the new server. Outlook 2003 is just like XP: antiquated and out of date.
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Windows Live Mail -- current and latest version -- does it right....How come Outlook 2007 doesn't? Mozilla Thunderbird seems to have degraded just as well as Outlook 2007, following the similar role model and stuff.

Windows Live Mail on the other hand, is a very simple e-mail client that does it the way I think it should. If you add an e-mail account, it will show a folder for each e-mail account, rather than all e-mail accounts assigned to the same folder. :(

While the backend of Outlook 2007 may be better -- this I agree with -- it is this problem that I have specified that they have "degraded" in. How and why is it that Windows Live Mail, still maintained by Microsoft, does not do it the same way as Outlook 2007 when it comes to handling multiple e-mail accounts and does it the way I specified as "right way"?
 
Cerulean said:
Windows Live Mail -- current and latest version -- does it right....How come Outlook 2007 doesn't? Mozilla Thunderbird seems to have degraded just as well as Outlook 2007, following the similar role model and stuff.

Windows Live Mail on the other hand, is a very simple e-mail client that does it the way I think it should. If you add an e-mail account, it will show a folder for each e-mail account, rather than all e-mail accounts assigned to the same folder. :(

While the backend of Outlook 2007 may be better -- this I agree with -- it is this problem that I have specified that they have "degraded" in. How and why is it that Windows Live Mail, still maintained by Microsoft, does not do it the same way as Outlook 2007 when it comes to handling multiple e-mail accounts and does it the way I specified as "right way"?
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Mine uses multiple folders just fine- what are you talking about? My POP account uses a different folder than my IMAP than does my Exchange- all by default.
 
TechieSooner said:
Mine uses multiple folders just fine- what are you talking about? My POP account uses a different folder than my IMAP than does my Exchange- all by default.
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ditto.

I have my personal mailbox, and 2 shared mailboxes.
each mailbox shows up independently as the others.
each mailbox has it's own inbox, outbox, sent items, drafts, etc.

just like it did in Outlook '03.
 
Who has played with the "Broadcast" feature in PowerPoint yet? I think that is flat out awesome and SO useful.
 
criccio said:
Who has played with the "Broadcast" feature in PowerPoint yet? I think that is flat out awesome and SO useful.
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Yea, I honestly wish they could implement something like "Broadcast Screen" in Windows itself like this.

The problem with this is it runs on a server. Either the OS price has to go up or you'd have to place ads on the client's side. Microsoft can't just host everyone's broadcasts for free forever.


But a "Broadcast Screen" feature would be totally awesome. It'd eliminate the need for WebEx type stuff almost entirely.
 
TechieSooner said:
Yea, I honestly wish they could implement something like "Broadcast Screen" in Windows itself like this.

The problem with this is it runs on a server. Either the OS price has to go up or you'd have to place ads on the client's side. Microsoft can't just host everyone's broadcasts for free forever.


But a "Broadcast Screen" feature would be totally awesome. It'd eliminate the need for WebEx type stuff almost entirely.
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Already available.

LogMeIn Express
 
Cerulean said:
Windows Live Mail -- current and latest version -- does it right....How come Outlook 2007 doesn't? Mozilla Thunderbird seems to have degraded just as well as Outlook 2007, following the similar role model and stuff.

Windows Live Mail on the other hand, is a very simple e-mail client that does it the way I think it should. If you add an e-mail account, it will show a folder for each e-mail account, rather than all e-mail accounts assigned to the same folder. :(

While the backend of Outlook 2007 may be better -- this I agree with -- it is this problem that I have specified that they have "degraded" in. How and why is it that Windows Live Mail, still maintained by Microsoft, does not do it the same way as Outlook 2007 when it comes to handling multiple e-mail accounts and does it the way I specified as "right way"?
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IN thunderbird just choose the option to not use the universal inbox, it is an option in the setup.


TechieSooner said:
Mine uses multiple folders just fine- what are you talking about? My POP account uses a different folder than my IMAP than does my Exchange- all by default.
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Yes, but add multiple POP accounts and it does not, they all use the same default store. I have 4 POP3 accounts and it does not create seperate store, you need to creater the folder or data file and make rules to filter it out, i also use the advance setting, not the wizard

to me it doesnt matter i just use rules to sort my mail anyways, i dont need seperate titled folders.
 
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