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Nvidia drivers and XP problems...HELP!

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rbarr110

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I recently removed my AIW8500 to send in for RMA repairs. In the meantime I am using a GF3 Ti200 card, but thats where the problems begin.

After installing the most current nvidia drivers from their website the screen goes black after the XP splash screen/loading bar screen. While the screen is black I can hit tab twice and hit enter and whatever user I may have highlighted, I hear the sounds windows makes as it loads up to that desktop, but the screen stays black. I know the computer hasn't locked up, it just won't display anything after the splash screen.

If I go into safe mode I can get in to the desktop uninstall drivers, but when I reboot and get into the desktop XP automatically reinstalls the bad drivers. How do I stop XP from doing this?

I have used this card on this exact system before, but this time it won't load corectly. I am not sure what drivers I used last time, but windows keeps loading what I assume are bad drivers.

Any help, PLEASE!
 
Looks like a case of someone that still has ATi Radeon drivers in their comp trying to run nVidia GPU.

Kill off all video drivers. Windows should load fine w/ default settings then reinstall the nVidia Forceware 53.03.
 
Yup, odds are it is old ATI drivers. Also, for anything but the GF FX series you want the 45.23s.
 
I used Driver Cleaner 2.7 to remove all ATI references. But I will try again. Could it be a monitor refresh setting problem?
 
try setting up generic VGA driver in safe mode ... then restart ... if the system starts ... reinstall the drivers ....
 
Even in safe mode windows XP will auto detect and install the Nvidia driver. I am currently not at home to test it out, but I am trying to get a list of things to try so I can stay up all night trying to fix the problem, kind of like last night.

Can I disable the auto detection/install of hardware that XP does?
 
Originally posted by rbarr110
Even in safe mode windows XP will auto detect and install the Nvidia driver. I am currently not at home to test it out, but I am trying to get a list of things to try so I can stay up all night trying to fix the problem, kind of like last night.

Can I disable the auto detection/install of hardware that XP does?
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that's why install it manually ... it will complain that it is not the right driver ... but who cares ... you know the installed drivers are not working anyway ...
 
I HATE windows and/or Nvidia drivers! I have forced several installs of various past Dets. I get the same result from every set of drivers, black screen after windows XP splash screen.

After each failed driver set, I uninstall the device and use Driver Cleaner 2.7 to remove all Nvidia references. I even found the set of Dets that worked two months ago while my ATI card was under RMA service in December.

I have uninstalled my virus software and still no success. I have reinstalled my monitor drivers and even tried a different monitor.

AAARRGGGHHHH, I need some serious help.
 
just unplug your godamn modem so it doesnt go to windows update to get new drivers jesus
 
Its not the windows drivers that is the problem, it is the whole set of Nvidia drivers causing it to not work. I have stopped it from using the MS verified drivers, I can not resolve teh problem with any set of drivers.

I have disabled the Nvidia card in the device manager so I can get into windows without having to be in safe mode. I guess I will have to deal with annoying scrolling and no gaming for a few weeks until my AIW gets back.

Thanks for what help/ideas have been suggested so far.
 
I was having the exact same problem.. I tried to install a Geforce FX 5600.
But to make things more interesting I was upgrading from a onboard Geforce 2 on my Asus Nforce 1 motherboard, so I already had the latest drivers installed.
Whenever I tried to boot with the 5600 my screen would go black after the Windows XP splash screen. I could boot into safe mode and get to the desktop, but that was the only way..
I tried a complete format and reinstall of XP, but I still get the Black screen after the Windows XP splash screen.
So I tried a ATI 9600 card, and everything works fine. No problems at all.
I have read about other people having this problem over at GURU3d.com
I wish I new a workaround....
 
Actually the black screen after splash happened to me twice. It has nothing to do with video drivers.. but some sort of driver problems with initializing your network device.

Try unhooking your modem line or ethernet cable from the computer, then reboot.
 
After you mentioned this Unit-0, I booted in safe mode and checked the IRQ settings in device manager. It seems my modem and ethernet connection was on the same IRQ (11) as my card.

Does anyone know how to change the IRQ settings for devices in XP Pro? I tried this, but if I unplug the power it automaticly reverts back to the same IRQ settings.

Thanks!
 
You cant change the IRQs for XP. The IRQs are automaticly assigned by windows. Most of the devices are given the same IRQ when they are not in use, when they are in use windows gives them a temp IRQ. I believe this is how it works.

And to get your video drivers to stop loading the defaults either cancel the "found new hardware" pop-up that shows when you restart windows, or try and update the card to a generic driver, then reboot and install the real one.

Added: Make sure you uninstall the ATI drivers as said above.
 
All the ATI drivers have been removed. There is one file (not sure of the name) that is an ATI file in system32 folder that Windows refuses to let me delete. I used driver cleaner to remove all ATI references after I uninstalled the drivers and software for the AIW8500.

I have been able to install other drivers with the same result. I will enable the graphics card again tonight and unplug the CAT5 cable and see if I can get into the desktop.

But if it does load to desktop...what happens when I plug in the network cable?

Thanks
 
Unplugging and/or disabling the network card had no effect on the screen going black.

Looks like I am stuck until the ATI card gets back from RMA service.

Thanks anyway.
 
Hmmm.. an ATi file that won't let you delete it..

I think you'll need to resort to booting up from a floppy in DOS and kill the file the old fashion way:

C:\> del C:\Windows\system\ati_file.dll

Edit: It bugs the sh*t out of me whenever windows won't allow me to kill something. Never be a slave to Windows!
 
Originally posted by MixPix
You cant change the IRQs for XP. The IRQs are automaticly assigned by windows. Most of the devices are given the same IRQ when they are not in use, when they are in use windows gives them a temp IRQ. I believe this is how it works.

And to get your video drivers to stop loading the defaults either cancel the "found new hardware" pop-up that shows when you restart windows, or try and update the card to a generic driver, then reboot and install the real one.

Added: Make sure you uninstall the ATI drivers as said above.
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You can have XP change them... and windows assigns and sets an IRQ in hardware, via plug-n-play... you don't want to then change IRQs, as the handler would have to be reprogrammed and initialized then on the fly. This requires a dynamic handler, which most programs/os's aren't set to use, from my understanding. I've had to code them, and they've always been hard coded, or pulled from the plug-n-play values set at boot.
 
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