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duce3

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Since I am making the no looking back jump to PC games for good (at least this generation), I had to give up NCAA Football for good. Although it is a love hate relationship I do need a good sports game to play on the PC. After some searching I have found that Sports games overall on the PC suck balls. But I did get the new Pro Evolution Soccer demo and had a lot of fun. Not the mad at EA for not getting off their lazy ass and fixing things fun but really had fun.

Granted I am from the states and a total idiot about soccer, does the PC version have online play. And if it does, does it have leagues? Is soccer a hard sport to learn?

P.S. On my current rig in my sig it ran amazingly with v-sync on it never dropped below 48fps.
 
Run down the field, run up the field, run down the field, run up the field, run down the field, run up the field, run down the field, (amazingly) somebody scores. Run up the field, run down the field...

Soccer is terrible.
 
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I could totally see how that is so different than say american football or even hockey for that matter. It's called sports you know, which involves physical activity and skill...
 
It's not any different than hockey. Hockey is terrible, too.

I grew up playing soccer. It's requires a great deal of fitness and skill (I didn't have a great deal of either one, but I could hold my own). It's actually pretty fun to play. That said, watching it is about as entertaining as watching grass grow. In winter.
 
Mark305TBI said:
It's not any different than hockey. Hockey is terrible, too.

I grew up playing soccer. It's requires a great deal of fitness and skill (I didn't have a great deal of either one, but I could hold my own). It's actually pretty fun to play. That said, watching it is about as entertaining as watching grass grow. In winter.
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To the contrary. Watching Baseball or Football is boring because there is no game flow. In soccer, the game flows much more fluid and the tension builds up during the game until someone scores. It's what makes soccer so successful. There's no 13:27 score or a 9:4, there is often a 1:0 score at the end of the game and boy, does the crowd get tense if that one and only goal is scored in the 85th minute.
 
ScYcS said:
To the contrary. Watching Baseball or Football is boring because there is no game flow. In soccer, the game flows much more fluid and the tension builds up during the game until someone scores. It's what makes soccer so successful. There's no 13:27 score or a 9:4, there is often a 1:0 score at the end of the game and boy, does the crowd get tense if that one and only goal is scored in the 85th minute.
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QFT. I, too, played soccer growing up and consider it a much more exciting sport whenever either team scores. The artistry behind a perfectly placed shot never ceases to amaze...

OP, if you can, take time out to watch some Premiere League games ... should give you an idea of how the game is played.
 
JaYp146 said:
QFT. I, too, played soccer growing up and consider it a much more exciting sport whenever either team scores. The artistry behind a perfectly placed shot never ceases to amaze...

OP, if you can, take time out to watch some European Premiere League games ... should give you an idea of how the game is played.
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premiere league is england... not europe



i play the FIFA games religiously, they are some of the best sports games made... i have tons of friends that come over and want to play it on our projector, they don't watch soccer, they only know the rules from playing the game... it's great. I've had other friends that have absolutely fallen in love with european football after countless hours of drunken fifa fun...

great game, u can prolly pick up 07 for next to nothing if you dont have 360/ps3. If you don't know what players play for whom... it doesn't really matter what year you have
 
ScYcS said:
To the contrary. Watching Baseball or Football is boring because there is no game flow. In soccer, the game flows much more fluid and the tension builds up during the game until someone scores. It's what makes soccer so successful. There's no 13:27 score or a 9:4, there is often a 1:0 score at the end of the game and boy, does the crowd get tense if that one and only goal is scored in the 85th minute.
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I played baseball my whole life and it does have a flow (like a still river), and football is in my HMO one of the best sports to watch. Not pro because it is boring now, but college is the most fun to watch. It has a soccer feel until you see some kid get blasted from his blind side. But I have never had anything against soccer. And for the most part I found the game to more fun and refreshing than Madden.
 
Why do you Americans keep on calling it soocer lol :rolleyes::mad: It's called football lol :D
 
Qazym said:
Why do you Americans keep on calling it soocer lol :rolleyes::mad: It's called football lol :D
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We call it soccer because we wouldn't have a name for our "football" It is ingrained in us at birth! What would we call ours catch ball! Lol! :p
 
duce3 said:
We call it soccer because we wouldn't have a name for our "football" It is ingrained in us at birth! What would we call ours catch ball! Lol! :p
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American rugby would be appropriate...
 
Mark305TBI said:
That said, watching it is about as entertaining as watching grass grow. In winter.
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only why it is the most popular sport in the world :rolleyes:

A 1-0 score with two good teams giving it all to put that ball in the back of the net is more exciting than any american football I have ever watched. Remember that exciting 15 lateral play everyone got excited about from that football team a couple of weeks ago? Thats rugby all the time. That's whats great about football too, it just flows and builds and builds in excitement with each play.

If you are just starting out with football videogames the fifa series might be more fun. Pro evo is still the one I would recommend. Pass the ball around. Keep possession. Look for places to slip the ball through to a guy in the open, run down the sides and lob it in for headers, run down the side and try to draw a foul or get a corner out of it, learn your radar and know how to use it, know which players are good at what. Some are better running down the side, some can dribble in the D and dance around the defenders.
 
While I love college football in here in the US, the NFL is just a bunch of juiced up, arrogant idiots for the most part. I can't stand many of the NFL players' attitudes and many of them are just pricks.

I love to watch some Premier League, hell, I even like watching the Argentinian, Bundesliga, and any other professional soccer leagues (EXCEPT FOR MLS which is complete crap.)
 
ScYcS said:
American rugby would be appropriate...
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Couldnt even be considered rugby though.... We wear pads and helmets. I actually played soccer (called it Futbol) for most of my life up till I was about 22yrs old. If you ever want something that will give you nothing but pure endurance then soccer is the way to go.. Oh and want to watch a truly BRUTAL sport, go watch girls (im talkin U-18's) competitive traveling team tournaments. Those chicks are hardcore and hot to boot....:D

Also, you want to meet some truly crazy m-fuckers then go meet some real rugby players. Talk about the American dream of complete drinker, ruffians....:D
 
blendingnoise said:
only why it is the most popular sport in the world :rolleyes:

A 1-0 score with two good teams giving it all to put that ball in the back of the net is more exciting than any american football I have ever watched. Remember that exciting 15 lateral play everyone got excited about from that football team a couple of weeks ago? Thats rugby all the time. That's whats great about football too, it just flows and builds and builds in excitement with each play.

If you are just starting out with football videogames the fifa series might be more fun. Pro evo is still the one I would recommend. Pass the ball around. Keep possession. Look for places to slip the ball through to a guy in the open, run down the sides and lob it in for headers, run down the side and try to draw a foul or get a corner out of it, learn your radar and know how to use it, know which players are good at what. Some are better running down the side, some can dribble in the D and dance around the defenders.
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I grew up watching American Football and it is my favorite sport. College that is. Soccer "World Football" is a great sport it just isn't pushed hard at everyone here. I am not about to start trying to bash people or their sports but American Football to me is amazing. I love the chess of it and Soccer "World Football" is great to watch when I don't have American football. But I only get to catch like the Mexican channel and I don't speak Spanish so that makes it that much harder to get into.

All in all back on topic the video game version is light years ahead of any American football game. I still can't stop playing the demo. I am not a total idiot, I know about FIFA and remember when it first came out back in 94' I think. The series is not that fun to me, it really comes down to the animations and I just hate EA Mo Cap. PES 08 was just way more fun to me. I know about two players, scratch that three. I don't care if I don't know them now that gives me the incentive to start looking them up and learning the game. That is what happened with hockey for me, oh and the fights were great!
 
Qazym said:
Why do you Americans keep on calling it soocer lol :rolleyes::mad: It's called football lol :D
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No, it isn't. Common misconception. "Football" is what is known as Rugby - its full name being Rugby Football.

People just think Soccer is called Football because of the way the game's played, i.e. "IT HAS AN BALL AND YOU KICK IT WITH YOUR FOOT, THUS FOOTBALL". This is because people are simple.
 
duce3 said:
But I only get to catch like the Mexican channel and I don't speak Spanish so that makes it that much harder to get into.
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Who doesn't get

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL :D
 
Wally said:
No, it isn't. Common misconception. "Football" is what is known as Rugby - its full name being Rugby Football.
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And that is another misconception. The word football actually refers to a variety of sports. Used on its own, the context (very often geographical context) will usually indicate which sport is being referred to.

People were playing games called football before rugby football, association football, or american football were even invented. A quick google indicates that the first known reference to the word "football" was in 1314 long before rugby football's invention in 1823:
Wikipedia said:
In 1314, comes the earliest reference to a game called football when Nicholas de Farndone, Lord Mayor of London issued a decree on behalf of King Edward II banning football.
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Anyway, I recently purchased FIFA08 for the 360 and am enjoying it greatly. I plan on getting PES shortly as well.
 
blendingnoise said:
Who doesn't get

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL :D
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That is the only thing I do understand, so you can picture me sitting there during a 1 nill match. The only thing I caught was the one time he went GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol
 
blendingnoise said:
Who doesn't get

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL :D
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But that only happens once every other match or two...and completely by accident.
 
Soccer (yeah, I don't know the real name) is MUCH better than any silly sport we Americans have like our "football" and "baseball", there's no flow to them and very little strategy/actual activity. They're boring as heck to watch as there's nothing to appreciate or keep an eye out for. Hockey is better, by far, but soccer is the best :D.
 
GoldenTiger said:
Soccer (yeah, I don't know the real name) is MUCH better than any silly sport we Americans have like our "football" and "baseball", there's no flow to them and very little strategy/actual activity. They're boring as heck to watch as there's nothing to appreciate or keep an eye out for. Hockey is better, by far, but soccer is the best :D.
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Hockey is the best sport to see in person!
 
jimmyb said:
And that is another misconception. The word football actually refers to a variety of sports. Used on its own, the context (very often geographical context) will usually indicate which sport is being referred to.

People were playing games called football before rugby football, association football, or american football were even invented. A quick google indicates that the first known reference to the word "football" was in 1314 long before rugby football's invention in 1823
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Tru dat. WOR'
 
duce3 said:
We call it soccer because we wouldn't have a name for our "football" It is ingrained in us at birth! What would we call ours catch ball! Lol! :p
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The correct name for American football is gridiron football but you are all so lazy with your words you shortened it to football.

If buying EA's FIFA for PC do not buy FIFA08. FIFA07 is much better and more like the 360 version of FIFA08. FIFA08 for PC is crap compared to 07, Fifa08 for PC is the same version sold for PS2. Same with NHL08 for PC, it is a crap version too and you are better off with an older version.
 
duce3 said:
Hockey is the best sport to see in person!
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Yea, watching an NHL game at the rink is quite exciting. I like watching soccer too though. Hate watching baseball but it is fun to play. I don't like watching sports much at all for the most part but I enjoy playing them on my PC. Watching car racing for 2 - 3 hrs. is real boring but driving a race car in GTR2 or rFactor is really fun and exciting. Which reminds me, I've got Steam downloading Race07 on my other PC right now.
 
milkweg said:
Yea, watching an NHL game at the rink is quite exciting. I like watching soccer too though. Hate watching baseball but it is fun to play. I don't like watching sports much at all for the most part but I enjoy playing them on my PC. Watching car racing for 2 - 3 hrs. is real boring but driving a race car in GTR2 or rFactor is really fun and exciting. Which reminds me, I've got Steam downloading Race07 on my other PC right now.
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I got Race 07 and it is nice if you don't have the stutter. Just got done trying to get rid of it. GTR2 is amazing so I hear, I own it but I still have the same stupid stutter.
 
Do the whole tutorial, should give u a pretty good idea of how to dribble and exectue some basic football strategy (im not american, so its not soccer for me :p)

Play with Barcelona first, for me its the best team in PES 08
Then move on to Brazil etc... and step down even further if u want challenge
 
Im not so sure that the new PES2008 is actually a good invitation to football as its full of very very obvious bugs (at least the 360/PS3 versions)

Heres a few i have noted

- Player takes a shot, my goalie catches it on the line, between the posts. Ref awards a corner, if it had gone over the line .....then it would have been a goal not a corner.

- Player scores a goal, celebrates and runs off pitch never to return. Have to sub him to get back to 11 players.

- Player scores a goal and team starts celebrating, but ref doesnt give it and while the other team is celebrating in my goal mouth i run up across the pitch with my defender and score

The 2006/Winning Eleven version doesnt have the same bugs, but doesnt have the nice graphics either. I prefer to play 06 edition on my 360 and returned the 2008 edition :(

MUCH better than any silly sport we Americans have like our "football" and "baseball"
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I dont watch American sports, but it does make me laugh whenever i see World series or something and yet.......no teams outside of the USA are even involved.....or want to be :p
 
ROFL.....that's awesome.....
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I didnt notice until just the beginning of the second half, when i looked at the radar and there was 10 players on my team :(, ive seen it a few times and its been mentioned on the forum as well.
 
Toytown said:
I dont watch American sports, but it does make me laugh whenever i see World series or something and yet.......no teams outside of the USA are even involved.....or want to be :p
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Canada certainly is involved in MLB. Now, whether they want to be or not is another question.
 
Toytown said:
Im not so sure that the new PES2008 is actually a good invitation to football as its full of very very obvious bugs (at least the 360/PS3 versions)

Heres a few i have noted

- Player takes a shot, my goalie catches it on the line, between the posts. Ref awards a corner, if it had gone over the line .....then it would have been a goal not a corner.

- Player scores a goal, celebrates and runs off pitch never to return. Have to sub him to get back to 11 players.

- Player scores a goal and team starts celebrating, but ref doesnt give it and while the other team is celebrating in my goal mouth i run up across the pitch with my defender and score

The 2006/Winning Eleven version doesnt have the same bugs, but doesnt have the nice graphics either. I prefer to play 06 edition on my 360 and returned the 2008 edition :(



I dont watch American sports, but it does make me laugh whenever i see World series or something and yet.......no teams outside of the USA are even involved.....or want to be :p
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It took me a few years when I was a kid to figure that out and then come to the realization that we are very self centered. College football is the best except for the silly BCS system. They are National Champions meaning in our country.

I would have to start with Brazil, my wife is from there and I like Ronaldinho!
 
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