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I can't believe there isn't a thread already about the framework laptop? I know laptops usually aren't all that [H] but this thing is neat!
https://frame.work/
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I've never heard of it. The fact is, its a neat idea and to some extent, upgradable laptops have been tried before and always failed.I can't believe there isn't a thread already about the framework laptop? I know laptops usually aren't all that [H] but this thing is neat!
https://frame.work/
This is not the laptop for those wanting a 499 laptop. You are paying for a tiny firm, to compete with the likes of Dell and HP and change the game. This is for those who want to invest in the future, invest in a company that can hopefully grow, and prove this idea can work.lol, $749 with i5, no ram, no wifi, no hdd, no OS.
No thanks.
Being able to upgrade the mainboard is a clever idea, but a high cost would render it pointless. This is definitely a "check back in a few years" company to me.
That could happen *IF* the sales were there to show the rest of the Industry that we actually care about something like this.If ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI etc. started making motherboards for it, and the form factor became a standard (call it nano-ATX?) this thing would become a whole lot more interesting than it presently is.
Lol it's not even a laptop for people looking for $1000 computers. Their cheapest ready to go option is $1000 with specs comparable to a $600 laptop from competitors.This is not the laptop for those wanting a 499 laptop. You are paying for a tiny firm, to compete with the likes of Dell and HP and change the game. This is for those who want to invest in the future, invest in a company that can hopefully grow, and prove this idea can work.
Upgradability generally requires industry support and standards. Unfortunately the way they are doing it is to just sell there own proprietary hardware. Normally the whole main board for a ultrabooks can be switched out for a cpu upgrade, on common laptops they can be found for reasonably cheap. Perhaps even cheaper then proprietary upgrades controlled by this one company.Lol it's not even a laptop for people looking for $1000 computers. Their cheapest ready to go option is $1000 with specs comparable to a $600 laptop from competitors.
This is straight up a laptop for people who believe in the cause and want to change the world. I get it, but that's not me.... I'm not paying a premium to be a guinea pig for a product that will likely fail. I've never had a customer come to me and ask, "Hey, can you recommend a cool, innovative laptop, that is easy to repair, eco friendly, and upgradable? I don't mind if it costs significantly more than similar performing laptops."
Starting with the borderline Ultrabook market first is an odd choice too. Their targeting a demographic that typically doesn't need to upgrade hardware frequently. It seems like their upgradability shtick would be a much bigger deal in the mobile workstation \ gaming segments.
I'm not saying they aren't cool or interesting. I'm just not sure there's as much demand for their product as they think there is.
If it fails its because there is no demand. If there is no demand, then ultimately it will be the shitty masses of which you speak, that will ruin it, like always.I'm not paying a premium to be a guinea pig for a product that will likely fail.
I'm guessing that availability of GPUs, including laptop GPUs, probably has something to do with it.No idea why they couldn't have gone with the higher cost "power user/gamer" market to start. Would've been a better start IMO since MXM was always available but never took off, so that's an "easy win" right there, and power users/gamers are the ones that have the need, the willingness, the monetary capability and the knowledge for this stuff.
Going for the Dell XPS crowd is a bad move IMO. They're the ones most sticky to their laptops, and can end up using the same one for years until something break. They're the ones who most need the traditional OEMs because they can actually take advantage of that 5+ years warranty.
I would've definitely been interested in a gaming laptop where you have the ability to drop-in upgrade the CPU and GPU, or even just the GPU. Pair a 5800H with a 3060/3070 130W for this year, and a few years down the road grab a x060/x070 module and drop it in for another 2-3 years of decent gaming for the cheap.
If they make a Ryzen 6000 series APU based version, it could be really decent at low res gaming.It would be really cool if these became a thing to open up a building space between laptops and sff desktops. It makes a lot of sense to include a built-in screen and keyboard with an APU-based barebones setup as well (love the Pi 400, too). Yeah the cost will be higher as its such a niche category but its exciting and I hope it leads to a legit market category for repairable/tunable/upgradeable laptops.
My current laptop is starting to bluescreen on the regular. Might be time to order mine. How has yours been so far?Just ordered mine here in the UK. Ordered without the SSD and ram so I can pop my own choice in and I have enough Windows keys floating around.
As for expansion I ordered two USB C and two USB A as I never plug monitors etc. into my laptop. And if I ever need to...I can just order the port!
Should arrive in a few weeks.
My current laptop is starting to bluescreen on the regular. Might be time to order mine. How has yours been so far?
Oh damn. I didn't realize the ship time was so long.Currently Framework are low volume so they build in batches. I am Batch 8 which ships end of this month. I got my "things are being put together" email a few days ago.
Can't wait to put my 1TB WD SN850 and Kingston Fury ram in it. Had them sitting on my desk for 6 weeks or more.
I will report when it arrives.
In the US it says ships within one week. I wonder if it's a delay because you're a UK buyer?Currently Framework are low volume so they build in batches. I am Batch 8 which ships end of this month. I got my "things are being put together" email a few days ago.
Can't wait to put my 1TB WD SN850 and Kingston Fury ram in it. Had them sitting on my desk for 6 weeks or more.
I will report when it arrives.
In the US it says ships within one week. I wonder if it's a delay because you're a UK buyer?
ahh, got it.No as they are a small batch builder they are now supplying the UK and Germany. Kind of like how OnePlus used to sell by invite only. So the UK and Germany orders are the first and a new distribution network. Remember its all new keyboards, regulations and shipping etc. Also remember every single laptop order is custom due to the amount of options available.
Things will get faster but currently they are all made to specific order in batches. I ordered mine December 17th. They tell you all this when you go to order so it's no surprise.
Yes, I was really astounded once in person how good the build quality was. The screen too is quite good.Oh...this...is...great!
Yes very impressed. Glad I waited.
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Yes, the motherboard is modular. New versions are in the works. Now I can't promise that an AMD board will be for this chassis in the future. This is a productivity notebook for the DIYer.I checked it out because of this post, but it seems underwhelming. Are they going to sell upgrade mainboards in the future?
Looks like a good laptop, but I don't get the draw. It doesn't really look more serviceable than say a random thinkbook.