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No display on bootup

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Dedatorv

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AMD Athlon X2 4800+
Asus A8N-SLI
1 Gig of DDR400
1 74GB Raptor and a Seagate 120GB IDE HD
eVGA 7950GT
Win XP Home

Recently my computer has stopped displaying anything on bootup and hangs there, no beeps or anything.

Before this all happened I first had BSOD on startup one day, I reset the computer and it worked fine. Next day I boot it up and it says that NTOSKRNL.EXE is corrupt and needs windows to be reinstalled, I reset the computer again and now it wont display anything or make any beeps. I took the computer apart and tested each piece of ram, took out the hard drives, just tried to see if it would atleast display the POST, nothing worked. Then I decided to pull the CMOS battery and let the bios settings reset. It worked fine for a day. Today its doing the same stuff again but reseting the CMOS battery isnt helping.

Anyone know what could be causing this?

Also, If I disconnect the powersupply's cable from the computer, Why wont the computer turn on for like 5-10 minutes?
 
Well I went through and dismantled it all and rebuilt it again. Tried it and got the same results, lights turn on, fans spin, but nothing past that.

Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
 
My first guess would be your video card. I've seen dead cards make a system react like that more than once.
 
Well the thing is the graphics card is the newest part in the PC. I had a video card prior to this one that had problems and was replaced by eVGA. I wouldnt say the card is more than 6 months old.
 
Just because the card is "new" doesn't mean it can't be dead.... parts die sooner than they should sometimes... My wife had to rma her X1950GT after 3-4 weeks of use... I recently had a 3 day old stick of ram crap out on me... It happens..
 
Dedatorv said:
Then I decided to pull the CMOS battery and let the bios settings reset. It worked fine for a day. Today its doing the same stuff again but reseting the CMOS battery isnt helping.
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Dead/dying CMOS battery?

If it's causing your BIOS setting to get lost and screw up, that might explain all kinds of weirdness.
 
Im having the same results with both computers. Both of the computers are new but the motherboards are 2nd hand (bought it from someone else). One I bought last year (DFI Ultra-D AMD 939) and the one in my sig. Both computers would take 30 mins and or 5-10 restarts before acting normal. Whats going on with my comps?

(Sorry OP, sounds like me and you have the same issue. If I took your spotight, sorry, I didnt want to make another thread that has the same problem as yours)
 
Dedatorv said:
Also, If I disconnect the powersupply's cable from the computer, Why wont the computer turn on for like 5-10 minutes?
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Sounds like a PSU problem. What kind of PSU do you have? Did you try it with only the bare essentials plugged in? no hdd, one stick of ram, etc.

xerodeluxe, you'd be better off starting your own thread. Though, same questions for you, lol. Thermaltake PSUs are generally crap unless they're from the toughpower line.
 
Also, reassemble your PC outside of their cases and on top of a cardboard or a motherboard box. Sometimes the cases shorts out your mobo and therefore not allowing video to show. then again it could be a power supply issue so try to get your hands on a spare power supply and test it with your system.
 
Ugh, I'm in a bind right now. I know its not the memory, swapped out several pieces of memory. I know its not the hard drives because I can hear those spin and when I take out the hard drives it still doesn't work. I know its not the CMOS battery because its suppose to boot up and get the the POST screen and warn me that something is wrong with it. I've rebuilt it, taken it outside of the case(I've got the Antec P180 and thought maybe with the new organization inside of it could of caused it) and turned it on and it still isn't working right.

My powersupply is the Antec TP2-550, Are there any guides to see if the power supply is good other than the paper clip trick?

Pretty much its down to my power supply, motherboard, or my video card. Only problem is I don't have anything that I can swap those with....What can I do?

***UPDATE***
After browsing Asus's forums and coming across many other individuals with the exact same problem, I have come to the conclusion that it is my motherboard. After looking at the technical support form you have to fill out and looking at Asus's reseller rating, I have decided to not bother with it and buy another 939 motherboard that isn't Asus branded. Any recommendations?
 
ASUS is a fantastic brand. Don't let one rare bad luck deter you from buying another ASUS motherboard.

My entire life I've bought ASUS boards except once (Soyo Dragon Platinum Edition because I loved the silver board) and I don't remember ever having any problems with them.

My current ASUS board gave me problems when I first got it. It turned out not to be the board, but rather OCZ's first batch of Platinum DDR2-800 rams were incompatible with ASUS and a few other AM2 boards. AM2 were simply in its infancy. A second revision of OCZ Platinum did the trick.

Like the others said, it could be bad power supply, or your case is slightly crooked that the back of your board is touching the metal surface (or is too close to it).

Hell, it could even be a DOA video card too.

It would be unfair to lay blame to ASUS and refuse their products in the future because of a fluke or another bad part.
 
Azhar said:
ASUS is a fantastic brand. Don't let one rare bad luck deter you from buying another ASUS motherboard.

My entire life I've bought ASUS boards except once (Soyo Dragon Platinum Edition because I loved the silver board) and I don't remember ever having any problems with them.

My current ASUS board gave me problems when I first got it. It turned out not to be the board, but rather OCZ's first batch of Platinum DDR2-800 rams were incompatible with ASUS and a few other AM2 boards. AM2 were simply in its infancy. A second revision of OCZ Platinum did the trick.

Like the others said, it could be bad power supply, or your case is slightly crooked that the back of your board is touching the metal surface (or is too close to it).

Hell, it could even be a DOA video card too.

It would be unfair to lay blame to ASUS and refuse their products in the future because of a fluke or another bad part.
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ASUS customer support, however, is some of the worst in the industry. Their quality control can be hit and miss as well.

There are ASUS loyal people, and there are people that ASUS has burned repeatedly, like myself. There are plenty of other quality options out there, and it's not as if ASUS has the "best of the best" by any stretch of the imagination.

There's no reason to be "fair" or not to a given manufacturer. Brand loyalty is... well, stupid. It's 3/4ths luck, and the longer you do this the more more blatantly obvious that becomes.
 
Brand loyalty is a little stupid if you ask me.

if I got stung by ASUS, why the hell would I want to use them again? I don't praise ASUS because of brand loyalty. I praise them because I get good results with them.

Maybe instead of him having a rare bad board, I'm a rare customer who always get fantastic products from ASUS :p

I build computers, not just for myself, but for a bunch of other people. It's rarely always ASUS. They pick and I build. I suggest good brands and chipsets, and let them chose, usually with a tight budget.

I recognize other excellent brands: Gigabyte, Microstar (MSI), Abit..

I remember pisspoor brands like PCChips. I remember when DFI was crap, and now they're rising to the top. eVGA too.

Believe me, I know no brand loyalty. I go with what I know to be good, and ASUS has just been good to me so far. Thats all.

Dell and Alienware also have poor records of customer service and support, but that didn't stop them from being the best.
 
Azhar said:
Dell and Alienware also have poor records of customer service and support, but that didn't stop them from being the best.
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...Dell and Alienware aren't the best? They're sub-par (in the case of most Dells) and overpriced (in the case of Alienware and any Dell that isn't sub-par).
 
In the Dell example I wasn't refer to performance. But they do have some good machines out there (their XPS laptops).

I meant they're the top sellers and makers of computers in the world along with HP/Compaq. Sure some of them are overpriced, but that doesn't stop people from buying them.

I could also use Microsoft as an example, and we all know how many Microsoft haters there are regardless of their superior sales records lol
 
Hey Folks,

I was asking for some socket 939 motherboard recommendations, seems it got a little off track.
 
Sorry about the unplanned threadjacking. At this point with S939 cheap=good. It's a dead platform, so I wouldn't spend more money on it than necessary. That said, don't buy a Jetway or something. I had good luck with a Gigabyte GAK8U-939. It's pretty bare-bones, but shouldn't be crazy expensive either. Unfortunately don't see one on Newegg. Try the FS/FT forums, you should be able to pick up a second-hand board for not very much at all.
 
Why buy a new one if your current one is under warranty? Just submit the form and get a working board, simple as that. It'll be hard to find a good s939 board because they've been discontinued for a while now. So, your best bet is used. Now, used, imo, isn't much better than refurbished by the manufacturer, lol. So, if its still under warranty, just claim it. If its not under warranty, borrow a PSU from Fry's and see if that solves your issues. I know there were problems with Antec TruePowers, including the 550W. So, call Antec and RMA that, too, while you're at it.
 
enginurd said:
Why buy a new one if your current one is under warranty? Just submit the form and get a working board, simple as that. It'll be hard to find a good s939 board because they've been discontinued for a while now. So, your best bet is used. Now, used, imo, isn't much better than refurbished by the manufacturer, lol. So, if its still under warranty, just claim it. If its not under warranty, borrow a PSU from Fry's and see if that solves your issues. I know there were problems with Antec TruePowers, including the 550W. So, call Antec and RMA that, too, while you're at it.
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Dear god yes. Didn't catch he was using a TruePower. I had 2 of the 550 watts die on a similar load, which is /way/ below what they're rated for.
 
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