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Nintendo Switch 2 arrives June 5th, 2025

vegeta535 said:
Just buy one of the 8-bit do controllers for $20-30. They work great.
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The 8bitdo ultimate feels at least as good as nintendo's pro, has analogue triggers, hall effect sticks, a charging dock, and d-pad that isn't manure. All that for $50.

So far, the only downside I've found is that 8bitdo controllers can't wake a switch.
 
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emphy said:
The 8bitdo ultimate feels at least as good as nintendo's pro, has analogue triggers, hall effect sticks, a charging dock, and d-pad that isn't manure. All that for $50.

So far, the only downside I've found is that 8bitdo controllers can't wake a switch.
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In the case of the Switch 2, they're also missing that social button so we'll have to wait for new models that either have it, or can map it to one of their existing buttons.
 
Funny "C" button , only issue I see is nobody else in family will have one since Big N out priced it form everyone's reach. I doubt people will buy one for there kids let alone 2 or three for a family. Nintendo went over priced on this.
 
p05ta1 said:
Funny "C" button , only issue I see is nobody else in family will have one since Big N out priced it form everyone's reach. I doubt people will buy one for there kids let alone 2 or three for a family. Nintendo went over priced on this.
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I'm sure the higher pricing will affect controller sales, but maybe not that drastically. I suspect most people will still be happy just using the included grip to convert the Joy-Cons, and the Pro Controller 2 will once again be reserved for both enthusiasts and people who absolutely insist on buying extra gamepads from Nintendo itself.

As it stands, the simple reality is that Nintendo is going to sell a ton of Switch 2 units, and that games will remain the real money train. Not that I'm endorsing the price hike; I'm just pointing out that people will still likely buy Mario Kart World and other big games in droves despite the increase.

It's important to remember that enthusiasts on tech forums (and PC-oriented ones, at that) are not the best judges of how products will fare in real life. Remember how people on SlashDot were certain the iPod would fail because it was Mac-only (at the time) and held less music that much larger and clunkier players? Yeah. Nintendo isn't concerned about the thirty- or forty-something PC diehard who insists on a minimum $500 GPU and is willing to spend hours getting an emulator to work; it's aiming at the twenty-something who just wants to play Mario Kart when their friends are over, or the parent who wants to give a console to their 10-year-old without worrying (much) about the games their child plays.
 
Aurelius said:
I'm sure the higher pricing will affect controller sales, but maybe not that drastically. I suspect most people will still be happy just using the included grip to convert the Joy-Cons, and the Pro Controller 2 will once again be reserved for both enthusiasts and people who absolutely insist on buying extra gamepads from Nintendo itself.

As it stands, the simple reality is that Nintendo is going to sell a ton of Switch 2 units, and that games will remain the real money train. Not that I'm endorsing the price hike; I'm just pointing out that people will still likely buy Mario Kart World and other big games in droves despite the increase.

It's important to remember that enthusiasts on tech forums (and PC-oriented ones, at that) are not the best judges of how products will fare in real life. Remember how people on SlashDot were certain the iPod would fail because it was Mac-only (at the time) and held less music that much larger and clunkier players? Yeah. Nintendo isn't concerned about the thirty- or forty-something PC diehard who insists on a minimum $500 GPU and is willing to spend hours getting an emulator to work; it's aiming at the twenty-something who just wants to play Mario Kart when their friends are over, or the parent who wants to give a console to their 10-year-old without worrying (much) about the games their child plays.
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Um... aren't those "pc diehards" the people who are more prepared to pay through the nose for a hardware upgrade?

As it stands *now*, the simple reality is that time will tell how well the system will sell. However, I would submit that the people who you claim nintendo is aiming for are likely *more* sensitive to the higher price of the new switch, not less.
 
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emphy said:
Um... aren't those "pc diehards" the people who are more prepared to pay through the nose for a hardware upgrade?

As it stands *now*, the simple reality is that time will tell how well the system will sell. However, I would submit that the people who you claim nintendo is aiming for are likely *more* sensitive to the higher price of the new switch, not less.
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They are and they aren’t. It’s amazing how many PC gamers will spend $750-plus on a GPU but balk at paying even the nominal $60 for a game. That and I don’t think many of them see a controller as an upgrade.

As for the Switch 2 prices, I do think the $450 might dissuade some, but the tariff war might soften the blow. That and Nintendo probably has several months of pent-up demand before it has to start worrying about the most casual buyers.
 
KazeoHin said:
That's the thing.

Nintendo will sell, and sell a ton.

Also, you'll probably see the price on ALL console peripherals creep up, You're comparing the price of tomorrow's controllers to yesterday's controllers. My guess is that Gamepass and Sony will start slowly boiling that frog.
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In consoles, yes. On PC, no. The reason Nintendo charges more because they have an ecosystem that has no competition. I just setup a wireless Xbox 360 game pad for my niece to play Split Fiction on my ancient PC with an RX 480 running Linux Mint. Technically the Xbox 360 gamepad is superior to that of the new Switch 2 peripherals, and that thing is ancient. No stick drift and analog triggers. A $30 webcam from Amazon is superior to that of the Switch 2's. Discord is superior in every way to Nintendo's Chat, and it's free. The difference between a free market and a closed ecosystem. They know you'll buy it because Nintendo has been doing a better job of making games than any other 3rd party publisher like UbiSoft and EA. Valve can't count to three.
emphy said:
Um... aren't those "pc diehards" the people who are more prepared to pay through the nose for a hardware upgrade?
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Steam Hardware survey full of Nvidia 60 series cards at the top of the list would suggest otherwise. You'd think 70 series would be next, but it's the 50 series.
The simple reality is that time will tell how well the system will sell. However, I'd submit that the people who you claim nintendo is aiming for are likely *more* sensitive to the higher price of the new switch, not less.
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My thinking is that the Switch 2 will sell well. As good as the Switch 1? Probably not, but I think Nintendo knows this. Why else would they charge more than anyone else for their games? Probably not Wii U levels of sales either, though I'd argue that despite the poor sales of the Wii U, the console did have a pretty good library of Nintendo games. This will be no different for the Switch 2.
Aurelius said:
As it stands, the simple reality is that Nintendo is going to sell a ton of Switch 2 units, and that games will remain the real money train. Not that I'm endorsing the price hike; I'm just pointing out that people will still likely buy Mario Kart World and other big games in droves despite the increase.
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I have a different prediction. Depending on a number of factors from Nintendo, their competitors, and good old piracy. Do I think Nintendo will sell as many Switch 2's as the Switch 1's? Definitely not. Not a chance in hell. You'll see a strong initial sales surge, but after that I expect the sales to not be on par with the Switch 1. The price of the console alone will deter a number of people, but the cost of games will push people even further away. Don't be surprised if Nintendo ends up walking back some of their prices after several months. If Trumps tariffs persist for longer than a few months, then I don't see people buying anything.

If Valve announces a Steam Deck 2 with Half Life 3, then expect epic problems for Nintendo. We've already heard rumors of a possible Half Life 3 in development, but then again we heard the same thing about Duke Nukem Forever. It did happen, but what a disappointment.

As for piracy, that's when Nintendo's lawyers will get to work. As much as Nintendo thinks they deterred people from hacking and emulating the Switch 2, they probably did the opposite effect. Nintendo never heard of the Streisand effect. I'm not saying that I expect the Switch 2 to get hacked ten ways to Sunday, but I wouldn't be shocked if it happened. I would expect Nintendo to do a lot more to prevent a paper clip from completely opening up their Pandora's Switch 2. My thinking is it'll take 3 years, if the level of interest was the same as the Switch 1. I think that's increased. I'm sure Nintendo's lawyers will be hard at work to send out as many cease and desist letters as they can.
It's important to remember that enthusiasts on tech forums (and PC-oriented ones, at that) are not the best judges of how products will fare in real life.
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I think that track record has been pretty good so far. Not just PC enthusiasts, but enthusiasts in general are very important to a products success. Just look at Apple.
Remember how people on SlashDot were certain the iPod would fail because it was Mac-only (at the time) and held less music that much larger and clunkier players?
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Like that one guy that got a -1 rating?
Yeah. Nintendo isn't concerned about the thirty- or forty-something PC diehard who insists on a minimum $500 GPU and is willing to spend hours getting an emulator to work;
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I'd like to remind you that the most popular GPU is the GTX 1060. At least was the most popular, as it's now the RTX 3060. None of these cards were ever $500, minus crypto. Minus scalpers. Minus AI, you get what I mean. You won't need something that powerful to emulate the Switch 2. Especially if you consider hand held mode.
it's aiming at the twenty-something who just wants to play Mario Kart when their friends are over, or the parent who wants to give a console to their 10-year-old without worrying (much) about the games their child plays.
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You think it's twenty somethings that want to play Nintendo games? Nintendo lives and breaths off nostalgia, and likely people in their 30's and 40's. Men in their 20's are likely playing some free online game, or some indie game they saw on <insert social media influencer>, which is usually a horror game. I could see children with a Switch 2, until parents realize it isn't as cheap as the Switch 1. I'd be that guy that says we have 2 Switch's, as a way to get away with paying for another overpriced toy. Or I'll just buy another game for the Switch 1, since that's a far better cost savings and the child will still be happy. Hopefully... Not only I'd have to buy a $450 Switch 2, but an $80 game. Most certainly Mario Kart World because what else you're gonna buy for it?
 
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DukenukemX said:
You think it's twenty somethings that want to play Nintendo games? Nintendo lives and breaths off nostalgia, and likely people in their 30's and 40's.
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Reminds me of those goofy ads for the Switch1 with the 20 somethings on the roof playing Mario Kart or the guy who takes his dog to the park but then just stares at the screen while playing more Zelda. Dog ran off somewhere apparently. But hey, maybe we can all soon play Skyrim and Oblivion in the cab to the airport and then on the plane too.
 
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