Nintendo Is Bringing Back the NES Classic in 2018

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Nintendo has announced that the NES Classic will return to stores in 2018, and not only that, they’re increasing SNES Classic inventory, too: the former will be sold again next summer, while the latter will see more units shipped on its Sept. 29 launch day in the US than were shipped of its predecessor all last year.

The Super NES Classic Edition system features 21 legendary Super NES games such as Super Mario World, The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past and Super Metroid. Launching on Sept. 29 at a suggested retail price of only $79.99, Super NES Classic Edition plugs directly into the TV using the provided HDMI cable, and comes with two wired controllers. NES Classic Edition features 30 classic NES games such as the original Super Mario Bros., The Legend of Zelda and Donkey Kong.
 

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It'll be interesting to see if the profit margin and sales revenue eclipses the switch. Cooler still would be if all the people who like to make retro games find ways to import them to this.
 

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I really don't see how these appeals to people. If you could connect to Nintendo store and do more games it be another thing but a fix set of games meh.
 

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The need to make one retro device with an Ethernet port give you a selection of free games then have a universal store that is cross device so users can download more games legally and not lose the ability to play them on w/e platform Nintendo has out
 

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The need to make one retro device with an Ethernet port give you a selection of free games then have a universal store that is cross device so users can download more games legally and not lose the ability to play them on w/e platform Nintendo has out
And just sell classic looking controllers for it.
 

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The need to make one retro device with an Ethernet port give you a selection of free games then have a universal store that is cross device so users can download more games legally and not lose the ability to play them on w/e platform Nintendo has out

They have this. It's called Raspberry Pi. they just need to make an online marketplace to purchase titles through web, or a subscription service with rotating titles.
 

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Aren't people hacking the full Nintendo (NES) catalog into these things?

I wouldn't pay $250-$300 for one -- $60-$80 always seemed fair and a decent value.
 

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Surely to coincide with the launch of the N64 Classic, which will have a mass quantity of 10 made and will therefore be impossible to buy at or near MSRP.
Seriously, just fuck off Nintendo.

I am starting to seriously wonder if Nintendo hires scalpers to sell stock at obscene prices. Seriously, who are these shenanigans helping other than scalpers? Certainly not Nintendo, who can't seem to keep up a decent supply chain.
 

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If I'm Christmas shopping and can get one of these for retail, I'm in. It would be a fun gift for my kids. However, I'm not dealing with the bullcrap launch of last year. What a joke.
 

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I'm holding judgement until I see if they actually pull it off. If the snes has the stock needed I'll be happy as I kinda want one. Hell I'll buy a nes classic next round if I can find one easy enough.

The need to make one retro device with an Ethernet port give you a selection of free games then have a universal store that is cross device so users can download more games legally and not lose the ability to play them on w/e platform Nintendo has out

I had said this before but what I'd love is for them to release something based off say the wii or wiiu hardware(without the screen) that is dressed in a retro box. Say make it look like a gamecube and just not have the top open. Let it be a retro box where you can buy controllers(including a new version of the wavebird) and have a virtual console store. Have single games and game packs(so let us buy the nes classic pack).

Using that hardware they could run virtual console gamecube games without issue and pretty much everything before. Only issues would be later sega hardware like the saturn(which emulation isn't great for) and the dreamcast. I think the hardware could be done cheap enough to get people interested and once they have it many would buy extra retro games.
 

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I'll buy one at retail, but I'm not camping in front of a store or paying a scalper. I know I'm not alone. It's easy money Nintendo, you just gotta put your product on shelves.
 

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Increasing the Inventory you say... so like a whole five for the entire country instead of two? Fantastic now I will only have to trade one unicorn horn and 12 pounds of orphan meat to get one. Way better than the 11 basilisk eyes and nine human kidneys I had to pay last go around.
 

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I'll buy one at retail, but I'm not camping in front of a store or paying a scalper. I know I'm not alone. It's easy money Nintendo, you just gotta put your product on shelves.

I think that covers a lot of us. Hell my dad wanted an NES classic because he remembered the games from when I was little. If he could have easily ordered it off amazon or gotten it intown he would have. I don't think he has played a console since the nes. I will say he really wanted it to have duck hunt and a light gun(something that uses a sensor like the wii bar).

I would have picked up a nes classic for the hell of it if it was easy to get. I'll get a snes one if it is.
 

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A lot of us are used to this song and dance from Nintendo since the days of the original NES (and remember what it was like when Zelda II was first released, and Super Mario 2?) ....This one annoyed me much more than any of the others, absolutely huge demand and Nintendo made it sound like they were having issues making small plastic stocking stuffers based off 30+ year-old technology? They offered no explanations and were quick to just say "Actually we're discontinuing it" and moving on uncaring, forgetting like it ever happened. Now scalpers are even more inclined to get in quickly, making it even worse than it would normally be.
 

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Oh who the f* cares!!??!? Its not like it really does anything new with the games....or allows network play, or recording, or any exportable savepoints of any kind or any number of cool ideas.....just the same games from 30 years ago....meh.
 

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Oh who the f* cares!!??!? Its not like it really does anything new with the games....or allows network play, or recording, or any exportable savepoints of any kind or any number of cool ideas.....just the same games from 30 years ago....meh.

Yeah, just the games that paved the way for the games we play today and that a lot of us grew up playing and enjoying.

How quickly people dismiss the things they didn't grow up with and yet those things started the ball rolling for the things they do enjoy in modern society. ;)

Most of those "meh" games as you call them offer more challenge and entertainment than most AAA titles put out today.

Back then, it was all about gameplay because the graphics were limited. Nowadays, they can put out a pretty game with shitty gameplay and sell it on eye candy.

Graphics may be nice to look at, but gameplay is what keeps me playing a game.

Gameplay > Graphics any day for me.
 

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Oh who the f* cares!!??!? Its not like it really does anything new with the games....or allows network play, or recording, or any exportable savepoints of any kind or any number of cool ideas.....just the same games from 30 years ago....meh.

To be fair, it does have save states, which was never a feature of the consoles. Also, it includes Starfox 2, which was never released. For me, it's a trip down memory lane, and also an easy way to introduce my nephews, who are just getting into video games, to games I played at their ages.
So if you don't care, that's fine. Just means more availability for the rest of us.
 

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People are still really salty about the last launch. It is obvious when reading this thread.
Actually I'm grateful, because it caused me to go out and build a Retro Pie instead for the same price as the MSRP, and now I get to laugh at all the people trying to find an SNES Classic, and eventually, the N64 Classic.
Meanwhile I get all of those games and systems, and a whole lot more, and a whole lot of other ones that don't have a mini sized, manufactured in single quantities version.
So...who's salty again? :D:p
 

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Actually I'm grateful, because it caused me to go out and build a Retro Pie instead for the same price as the MSRP, and now I get to laugh at all the people trying to find an SNES Classic, and eventually, the N64 Classic.
Meanwhile I get all of those games and systems, and a whole lot more, and a whole lot of other ones that don't have a mini sized, manufactured in single quantities version.
So...who's salty again? :D:p

All the people who still wanted a NES classic but supplies were too low.
 

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All the people who still wanted a NES classic but supplies were too low.
I think most people who wanted an NES Classic bought a Retro Pie instead; at least, judging from what I've seen online, that was one of the most-common thoughts I've seen passed around.
If you want, you can buy a Raspberry Pi case that looks like an NES, and on top of that, the controller cords aren't 6' long (and you can use practically any wired controller). Plus you get more functionality anyway because you're not locked in to 1 console.
So again, without arguing in circles - who's salty here? :D
 

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Actually I'm grateful, because it caused me to go out and build a Retro Pie instead for the same price as the MSRP, and now I get to laugh at all the people trying to find an SNES Classic, and eventually, the N64 Classic.
Meanwhile I get all of those games and systems, and a whole lot more, and a whole lot of other ones that don't have a mini sized, manufactured in single quantities version.
So...who's salty again? :D:p

So you think stealing is ok. I hope someone steals your car. I am sure you will have no issue with it.
 

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So you think stealing is ok. I hope someone steals your car. I am sure you will have no issue with it.
Oh! Found the salty one! :whistle:
Congratulations on being "that guy". Way to make assumptions.
No one said anything about stealing.
I recommend you look up the legitimacy of roms and why and in what capacities they're not illegal.
 

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I think most people who wanted an NES Classic bought a Retro Pie instead; at least, judging from what I've seen online, that was one of the most-common thoughts I've seen passed around.
If you want, you can buy a Raspberry Pi case that looks like an NES, and on top of that, the controller cords aren't 6' long (and you can use practically any wired controller). Plus you get more functionality anyway because you're not locked in to 1 console.
So again, without arguing in circles - who's salty here? :D

and the other 90% of consumers who do not want to build something? The ones who's eyes glaze over when you say "Small Form Factor"? The Soccer Mom who wants to make her Beta husband happy?
 

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I could build a raspberry pi, or use a thousand other devices I already own. Why do I need a pi? If the classic controllers feel like the originals it's a win for me.

I have almost a complete set of n64 games and would still buy the n64 classic just for HDMI support and so I don't have to lug around a few hundred dollars of games.

Also we get it pi boys, your the cool kids on the block :rolleyes: I'm sure you guys already have Star fox 2 also. There's a niche for people who are both computer people and grew up during the 1980s with NES/genesis/SNES.
 

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Oh who the f* cares!!??!? Its not like it really does anything new with the games....or allows network play, or recording, or any exportable savepoints of any kind or any number of cool ideas.....just the same games from 30 years ago....meh.

That's what I don't get. Right now these things do nothing to really stand out from the ROM setups most people have been doing for years. Why not re-release each of their old consoles with some expanded classic games, updated features, and an online store for new games?
 

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There's a niche for people who are both computer people and grew up during the 1980s with NES/genesis/SNES.
Exactly.
There's also a niche for people who want those devices but aren't going to spend an arm and a leg for them.
FFS you can buy an actual NES and most of the games for less than the cost of a Classic when those were the hot item.
Or, there's the Pi. Has nothing to do with "cool kids on the block". Don't be condescending.
 

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Exactly.
There's also a niche for people who want those devices but aren't going to spend an arm and a leg for them.
FFS you can buy an actual NES and most of the games for less than the cost of a Classic when those were the hot item.
Or, there's the Pi. Has nothing to do with "cool kids on the block". Don't be condescending.
The people who beat that drum the hardest because it's cheaper forget that The same people have a full computer, or in my case several computers that can do the same thing.

Cheaper isn't always better. Also you'd be hard pressed to buy megaman for $35 last time I checked for NES. Add a few more of the popular and rarer games and that idea is shot.

The NES classic isn't a bad value.*

*if you want that experience
 

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The NES classic isn't a bad value.*
Absolutely not, at MSRP.
> MSRP for what they were going for (2 and 3x the price), it's absolutely a bad value.
I was going to buy one on launch, for MSRP. That failed. The options then are 1) pay scalpers or 2) go elsewhere. I went with option 2.

I'll say it here and now, there's no way on God's green Earth they're going to manufacture enough to go around of either product, even though they're "making more this time". Absolutely no fucking way.
History will repeat itself - watch.

Nintendo is the unequivocal king of artificial hardware shortages to stimulate and inflate demand; there is absolutely no disputing this. They've done it now with 3 home consoles, a bunch of still figurine toys (Amiibos), and now, a prebuilt official ROM machine. I see no reason whatsoever to believe the trend won't continue.
 

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I could build a raspberry pi, or use a thousand other devices I already own. Why do I need a pi? If the classic controllers feel like the originals it's a win for me.

I have almost a complete set of n64 games and would still buy the n64 classic just for HDMI support and so I don't have to lug around a few hundred dollars of games.

Yeah, but with an N64 Classic you are invariably going to get only a tiny fraction of the total N64 collection, at Nintendo's whim. Raspberry Pi you can have EVERYTHING.
 

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I think most people who wanted an NES Classic bought a Retro Pie instead; at least, judging from what I've seen online, that was one of the most-common thoughts I've seen passed around.
If you want, you can buy a Raspberry Pi case that looks like an NES, and on top of that, the controller cords aren't 6' long (and you can use practically any wired controller). Plus you get more functionality anyway because you're not locked in to 1 console.
So again, without arguing in circles - who's salty here? :D
Bullshit. Yeah, lots of people went out and got themselves a raspberry pi and slapped it in a miniature NES case they printed or bought from somewhere. But most? Not a chance. Most people wanted something they could remove from the package, plug into the TV, and be done with it. Now if you had said "most people on hardocp" that wouldn't be too much of a stretch, but in general? Hell no.

Most people don't want to assemble anything. How do you think Dell, HP, etc. are still in business selling low end pre-built computers? Surely people could just build them. Look at the quad copter market, do you think most of those customers are building, or buying off the shelf? Most of the people interested in running an emulator on a raspberry pi either already knew about it, or had some other similar hobby or related background.
 

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The problem with the "classic feel" with a lot of these Classic consoles is that you can already have that classic feel on your joypad, namely the USB adapters, and you actually use the very original controllers for them

Mayflash sells a lot of them, I have seen NES, SFC/SNES, Sega, Sega Saturn, N64, Wii pro to name but a few (I own the Sega Saturn adapter, because it is actually obscenely hard to find decent Sega 3/6 button controllers besides the original).

There are other version as well, but by and large, nothing really beats the original feel.

I bought RPi, both the Famicom and NES Classic (when they were discontinued) and probably will grab both the SNES and SFC classic too, because I like collecting those, but I still went back to PC for emulation, because while RPi does its job fine with all cartridge based consoles (barring N64), it is fairly difficult to set it up right, and the peripherals cost can easily go beyond the cost of the Pi itself. To this day, I have not used RetroPie for emulation other than to test out what it is capable of. To this end, I think I'd even prefer a NUC over RPi just because it shares the ecosystem with rest of the house, and probably a lot more flexible and decently powerful too. Oh, and lack of turbo button is the biggest thing I don't like about Classics.
 

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Those games weren't made in high resolution. I don't even want to think about how it would look on 4k. They don't even sell 480p TV's anymore. Or did they not even think of that.
What are you on about?
The resolution of your TV does not matter. The SIZE of your TV matters. It will look the exact same as the original, but bigger.
And to answer your question, which is moronic btw, (no offense, just being straight) they did not, even for a second, think of that. And if you knew how gfx works, and any history, you would not either.
 

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Actually I'm grateful, because it caused me to go out and build a Retro Pie instead for the same price as the MSRP, and now I get to laugh at all the people trying to find an SNES Classic, and eventually, the N64 Classic.
Meanwhile I get all of those games and systems, and a whole lot more, and a whole lot of other ones that don't have a mini sized, manufactured in single quantities version.
So...who's salty again? :D:p

Does n64 work that well on retropie?? Last I read, its still kinda slow, and a good amount of n64 games don't run well....or am I wrong?
 

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Yeah, just the games that paved the way for the games we play today and that a lot of us grew up playing and enjoying.

How quickly people dismiss the things they didn't grow up with and yet those things started the ball rolling for the things they do enjoy in modern society. ;)

Most of those "meh" games as you call them offer more challenge and entertainment than most AAA titles put out today.

Back then, it was all about gameplay because the graphics were limited. Nowadays, they can put out a pretty game with shitty gameplay and sell it on eye candy.

Graphics may be nice to look at, but gameplay is what keeps me playing a game.

Gameplay > Graphics any day for me.

Oh I agree that those games were great, I played them ALL back then and have beaten both Zeldas, Metroid and, all 3 Super Marios plus others. And I actually still have the majority of them in original cartridge form that I still play to this day with my Hyperkin along with my kids.

I just think its a rip-off that it only included such a small select amount of games....
 
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