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Nibelheim overclockability?

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william_fontaine

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Has anyone gotten to test overclocking with a Nibelheim sample? I'm thinking about waiting for it but if it doesn't OC as well as some of the current gens I don't think it's gonna be worth it.
 
Are you talking about Nehalem? And as far as I know, we're not near enough to have final samples out, so that would be a no. If you can't wait and need a PC now, the current gen is fine. But Nehalem is supposed to bring as much as a 30% or 40% improvement over C2D clock for clock.
 
XboxodX said:
Are you talking about Nehalem? And as far as I know, we're not near enough to have final samples out, so that would be a no. If you can't wait and need a PC now, the current gen is fine. But Nehalem is supposed to bring as much as a 30% or 40% improvement over C2D clock for clock.
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Not near enough? It gets released next month (unless that's changed again). Conroe had samples out months before its release.
 
Well the samples are out, but overclocking results are still NDAed.
Figure 3.6-4.0 to be possible, which is plenty.
 
william_fontaine said:
Has anyone gotten to test overclocking with a Nibelheim sample? I'm thinking about waiting for it but if it doesn't OC as well as some of the current gens I don't think it's gonna be worth it.
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Is that German for Nehalem? :D

Ya, dat ist gut!
 
I just want to know if the non-extreme iterations will have their FSB equivalent locked.
 
ryan_975 said:
Not near enough? It gets released next month (unless that's changed again). Conroe had samples out months before its release.
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You also have to remember that it's speculated that the so called launch in september is actually just a paper launch and that everything (CPUs and mobos) wont be out till much later. Also, an engineering sample does not fully represent the final product. With conroes, the engineering samples almost always overclocked better. So, even if a lot of people had engineering samples now and were reporting good overclocks, we would still have to wait until somebody received a retail version to confirm anything.
 
PliotronX said:
I just want to know if the non-extreme iterations will have their FSB equivalent locked.
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Define non extreme.

There will be nehalem bloomfield cores all the way down to the $300 market, and none of them will be locked. It appears that the non QPI cores, lynnfield (quad core) and havendale (dual) will be locked, but those are also the cores that will have a GPU onboard, and wont launch for another 9-12 months.
 
william_fontaine said:
Has anyone gotten to test overclocking with a Nibelheim sample? I'm thinking about waiting for it but if it doesn't OC as well as some of the current gens I don't think it's gonna be worth it.
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With the built in memory controller it has, it may not be too overclockable, but that is just a guess on my part.

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I think the IMC is on a different clockspeed plane, and Im sure that the X58 at least will be able to adjust that individually.
 
GLSauron said:
Define non extreme.

There will be nehalem bloomfield cores all the way down to the $300 market, and none of them will be locked. It appears that the non QPI cores, lynnfield (quad core) and havendale (dual) will be locked, but those are also the cores that will have a GPU onboard, and wont launch for another 9-12 months.
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As it is with the extreme versions of P4's and C2's, the multiplier being unlimited with a massive pricetag beside it. Naturally I meant the grossly expensive models in the line under the "Extreme" moniker. I hope you are right about Bloomfield. Why would the cores with integrated GPU be locked do you suppose?
 
PliotronX said:
As it is with the extreme versions of P4's and C2's, the multiplier being unlimited with a massive pricetag beside it. Naturally I meant the grossly expensive models in the line under the "Extreme" moniker. I hope you are right about Bloomfield. Why would the cores with integrated GPU be locked do you suppose?
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No reason for them to be unlocked, to be honest. Its mostly to cut down on the equivilant of e21xx model overclocking, I expect. Intel makes next to nothing on those cheapy chips (yeah they are cheap to make, but they also sell for almost nothing).

No reason for them to allow people to be satisfied with the no profit chips when they can push the people who care about OCing to the chips that make them some money without hurting those who dont care.
 
william_fontaine said:
Has anyone gotten to test overclocking with a Nibelheim sample? I'm thinking about waiting for it but if it doesn't OC as well as some of the current gens I don't think it's gonna be worth it.
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Before I read the rest of this thread:

Final Fantasy 7.
 
GLSauron said:
No reason for them to be unlocked, to be honest. Its mostly to cut down on the equivilant of e21xx model overclocking, I expect. Intel makes next to nothing on those cheapy chips (yeah they are cheap to make, but they also sell for almost nothing).

No reason for them to allow people to be satisfied with the no profit chips when they can push the people who care about OCing to the chips that make them some money without hurting those who dont care.
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Well, hopefully you can still raise the bus speed. Otherwise, I am going back to AMD.
 
brons2 said:
Well, hopefully you can still raise the bus speed. Otherwise, I am going back to AMD.
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And you'll overclock your [deneb? 45nm K10] and still be slower than a clock locked lynnfield/havendale. :shrug:
 
im sure the taiwanese mobo ppl will have figured some way to get nehalem to overclock well.
and the fact that the entry model is 45nm and has 8 virtual cores means it will kick everything's ass.
 
brons2 said:
Well, hopefully you can still raise the bus speed. Otherwise, I am going back to AMD.
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DemonDiablo said:
Thats pretty much what I dont get :confused:
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My point was what do you do IF the clock locked (LGA1160) intel chips are faster than the AMD chips even when the AMD chips are overclocked. Simpler? Looking at the performance numbers for nehalem that certainly seems possible at this point.
 
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