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Nexus-Jellybean ?

Zorachus

Zorachus

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So the last rumors I heard about the next Android OS update was that Jellybean is the code name, and was said to release in late Spring or early Summer. Do we know if that is still possibly on track ?

Will Jellybean be just an update to ICS and be OS 4.5, or will it be a major upgrade and be 5.0 ?

And if true and Jellybean release around June or so, which is a very popular smartphone month, that is typically when Apple releases the iPhone, and the EVO and Galaxy series launch around that time. Would there be a new "Nexus" phone to accompany the release of Jellybean ? And this time would be a Nexus not made by Samsung, but possibly back to HTC again, or Motorola
 
I doubt Jellybean will be released so soon. The update usually coincides with a new Nexus release. My guess is JB will be an incremental update to ICS. As for future Nexus phones, I pray Google/Motorola will be given an exclusive.
 
It'll probably be 4.1 or 4.2 with focus on features over under-the-hood improvements and UI changes. I can see them beefing up voice control to compete with Siri and maybe integrating with Google TV if they're serious about having that preinstalled on all new TVs by next summer. Google also promised a six month release schedule with Android way back iirc, and the only reason it took a year to get updates to GB is because the update between GB and ICS was tablet only.

Q2 is when the first Snapdragon S4 come out and I'm willing to bet the Exynos 5250 is getting accelerated ahead to compete with that. If Galaxy S3 for example gets revealed at MWC in Feb, then it will probably come out April/May in Korea and summer in the US like before. I doubt Jellybean will be a part of that unless its a really minor update. My bet is OTA release in June with phones appearing in the US two months after.
 
I thought Google was going to a 6 month or so cycle between releases ? And they did say Jellybean would roughly possibly be out in Spring or Summer. But that does not fall in line with Nexus releases which come out during the holiday season. But doesn't mean they can change it ?
 
google is on an annual cycle cor major releases but semi-annual for minor releases
 
Direfox said:
Are the semi-annual releases named? (i.e. ICS or Jellybean) or just the annual ones?
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the expectation is that only the annual releases will be named but that's not how it worked with FroYo and Gingerbread so I can't guarantee that. :rolleyes:
 
Android SDK release dates:
Android 1.0 - 23 September 2008
Android 2.0 - 26 October 2009
Android 3.0 - 22 February 2011
Android 4.0 - 19 October 2011

Seems like a general 1 year release cycle if you ask me.
 
FFS, I hope they won't release it any time soon. Not even the Nexus S is getting ICS as we speak. So much for that update alliance that was supposed to be in effect.
 
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FFS, I hope they won't release it any time soon. Not even the Nexus S is getting ICS as we speak. So much for that update alliance that was supposed to be in effect.
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I have to agree. I am a big Android fan, and have owned the Nexus-One and Nexus-S 4G. Bit Google does a piss poor job updating those halo phones to the newest version. N-1 took two months to officially receive Gingerbread. Now the N-S 4G is going on 5 weeks and no update yet.

Gotta give Apple credit, they release a brand new phone and new iOS and the older phones get key right away the sane week the newcphobe comes out.
 
Nothing has been announced, and ICS is only 2 months old. It's too premature to make any assumptions.
 
/rant/ said:
FFS, I hope they won't release it any time soon. Not even the Nexus S is getting ICS as we speak. So much for that update alliance that was supposed to be in effect.
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Uh, the Nexus S is getting ICS. In fact, many people with a Nexus S already received the ICS update. The update alliance also absolutely did not guarantee updates immediately, nor can it.

Also, I know we are all entitled assholes, but Google's employees take a holiday vacation as well just like the rest of us.
 
I don't believe it'll be released in Q3 at all. BGR is all about Apple and sensationalist headlines to drum up clicks.

Will Jelly Bean be announced in Q2/Q3? Yep, which is normal. You won't see source code until Q4 or Q1 2013 keeping Android on it's yearly release.
 
Vermillion said:
I don't believe it'll be released in Q3 at all. BGR is all about Apple and sensationalist headlines to drum up clicks.

Will Jelly Bean be announced in Q2/Q3? Yep, which is normal. You won't see source code until Q4 or Q1 2013 keeping Android on it's yearly release.
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Yeah most likely correct, last three Nexus release were out in December.
 
Vermillion said:
Will Jelly Bean be announced in Q2/Q3? Yep, which is normal. You won't see source code until Q4 or Q1 2013 keeping Android on it's yearly release.
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1.0: Sept 2008
1.5: April 2009 (Cupcake)
1.6 Sept 2009 (Donut)
2.0 Oct 2009 (Eclair)
2.2 May 2010 (Froyo)
2.3 Dec 2010 (Gingerbread)
3.0 Feb 2011 (Honeycomb)
4.0 Oct 2011 (ICS)

What about that list looks yearly to you? :p
 
it can take it's sweet time for all I care -- I will just be getting my Galaxy Nexus later today from the UPS man (99 dollar amazon wireless win)

I've been playing with ICS on my touchpad and just recently my Evo4G - I wouldn't expect to see any groundbreaking phones or updates to the android system till late 2013 hell ICS practically just came out.
 
kllrnohj said:
1.0: Sept 2008
1.5: April 2009 (Cupcake)
1.6 Sept 2009 (Donut)
2.0 Oct 2009 (Eclair)
2.2 May 2010 (Froyo)
2.3 Dec 2010 (Gingerbread)
3.0 Feb 2011 (Honeycomb)
4.0 Oct 2011 (ICS)

What about that list looks yearly to you? :p
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You're right. Very, very bad wording on my part. Roughly a year with recent releases. I was on 3 hours of sleep yesterday after a really bad night with the 5 month old. ;)

Google has changed from the 1.5/1.6/2.0/2.2 rush to try to catch up to iOS. Update from 2.2 to 2.3 was minor like 2.0 to 2.1 and honestly while nice I still see 2.3 as a push to try to reign in the amount of fragmentation and it did a pretty decent job. 3.0 doesn't count for phones. ;)

They are more yearly now and that was what Google wanted to head to I believe. If Jelly Bean hits early I won't complain, but honestly Google needs to chill out if that happens. ICS is barely out there and it isn't exactly moving quickly. Google will be their own worst enemy with fragmentation if they don't move to a more yearly update with Android (minor updates 2.0/2.1 and 2.2/2.3 not included).
 
Obligatory "what's the point in speculating when we know absolutely nothing about the next update" post :p. Sorry, I have to give Zorachus shit about these threads every time I see them ;), he should be used to it by now though.

Anyways, I could care less about the next update. ICS is plenty nice for me right now and leaves little to be desired. The only thing I want them to really work on at this point is better memory (RAM) management, background app/service management and other OS optimizations to make it even faster. Because there's some apps that run as services regardless of whether I'm using them or not (Pandora, Slacker, Google+, etc.). I would like to actively manage these services and keep them from running to free up resources for foreground apps like the browser that can eat a lot of RAM if you have a lot of tabs open and pages with lots of graphics/videos, which them forces the phone to purge other priority background processes from RAM like the launcher, so that when you hit "home" to go back to the homescreen, you get to wait for the launcher to reload and redraw all of your home screens.

The background data management was a step in the right direction with ICS, but now they need to do the same thing for the services themselves. Right now, by only solution is to freeze these apps/services in Titanium so that they don't run, but that's not a solution for non-rooted users. And that's a PITA for when you actually want to go back and use those apps.
 
Vermillion said:
You're right. Very, very bad wording on my part. Roughly a year with recent releases. I was on 3 hours of sleep yesterday after a really bad night with the 5 month old. ;)
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Recent releases still aren't yearly - look at those dates again. Honeycomb and ICS were both in 2011.

Google has changed from the 1.5/1.6/2.0/2.2 rush to try to catch up to iOS. Update from 2.2 to 2.3 was minor like 2.0 to 2.1 and honestly while nice I still see 2.3 as a push to try to reign in the amount of fragmentation and it did a pretty decent job. 3.0 doesn't count for phones. ;)
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3.0 wasn't for phones, but it was still a major platform release and introduced things like hardware accelerated rendering.

What rush to catch up to iOS? iOS has been playing "catch up" just as much as Android has, and both have been releasing frequent updates. Android may be moving faster than iOS, but it isn't playing "catch up" to anyone.

2.0 to 2.1 was a minor update, which is why I didn't list it. 2.3 had some pretty significant under the hood changes - it wasn't that minor. And I'm not sure what you mean by "push to reign in the amount of fragmentation" - 2.3 didn't do anything for that.
 
Indeed. We'll get the announcement and major features at G I/O in June and source/nexus release in November/December.
 
Expect Assistant, aka Majel, to be shown off at Google IO
http://androidandme.com/2012/05/app...stant-aka-majel-to-be-shown-off-at-google-io/

Last year we reported that Google was working on a secret project codenamed Majel that was meant to be a direct response to Apple’s Siri.
Lots of engineers at Google are obsessed with the Star Trek computer, and the next logical step is a natural voice input and output system to interact with their Knowledge Graph. If they were already testing it late last year, then I fully expect to see a working demo of Android Assistant at Google IO next month.
 
Zorachus said:
Android 4.1 Jelly Bean: 5 Features We Want in Google’s New OS
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/06/things-want-android-4-1-jelly-bean/
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meh, most of that stuff seems kind of lame or pointless. Yes, Google should just update "browser" to chrome for the sake of unifying their branding. I don't really care for the idea of the unified messaging app, if only because I actually use the G+ huddle feature and like having a persistent "chat room" with certain people separated from my other messaging. More built-in apps? only if they actually provide real functionality that allows me to ditch other apps. One thing I'd really like to see would be pop-up messaging notifications without relying on a third party application like handcent
 
My question is, if 4.1 Jellybean is officially announced today as expected, and the Galaxy Nexus does indeed get the update pretty soon after the new Nexus-7 tablet. What is in store for the 4th generation Nexus phones this October / November ? Will Google release a big update in Android 5.0 "Key Lime Pie" so soon after 4.1 ? Or will the new Nexus phones due this Fall just get like 4.2 or something minor over Jellybean ? Has Google ever released two new Android OS updates in the same year before ?
 
Great comment from XDA member Ahmato27

Here it is.. exactly what your going to hear in the keynote:

Android 4.1 Jelly bean will be a maintenance update that focuses on integrating all Google services in an optimized manner.. in other words, the update will focus on services only! That's why it will be rolled out to the GNex immediately .

There will be a major update called (key lime pie or kwhatever) that will be featured on the Next 'Flagship'Nexus devices due this Fall, and will be discussed in the near future..

Now settle down and don't get too excited..
 
looks like Google's new Siri killer is a big piece of 4.1 and looks like it adds quite a bit of functionality vs Siri. It might be worth getting excited for. Of course, owning a VZW Nexus, I wont be holding my breath for an official OTA any time soon.. I'll be looking forward to an AOSP/AOKP based on 4.1 :)
 
I'm seeing a LOT of samsung ICS features in JB.
Party sharing of photos, s-beam are both in JB.
 
GLSauron said:
I'm seeing a LOT of samsung ICS features in JB.
Party sharing of photos, s-beam are both in JB.
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yea, how much of that is Google co-opting samsung tech and how much of it is samsung following Google's lead (NFC especially) to the next logical conclusion followed by Google rolling it out with the next version? Personally I hope this trend continues.. maybe once all the features are native, OEM's will stop feeling the need to add bloat
 
GLSauron said:
I'm seeing a LOT of samsung ICS features in JB.
Party sharing of photos, s-beam are both in JB.
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Party sharing of photos is a Google+ thing, not a JB thing. S-Beam was an incremental improvement over what was already in ICS, not exactly a major Samsung innovation. Not surprising Google would also incrementally improve the things it added in the first place :p

There really isn't anything from SGSIII in JB that I'm seeing...
 
JB turned out to be a pretty major upgrade. The sad thing is ICS still is only on 7-10% of Android phones, JB will be on even less. They should release Google Now as an app.
 
Activate: AMD said:
looks like Google's new Siri killer is a big piece of 4.1 and looks like it adds quite a bit of functionality vs Siri. It might be worth getting excited for. Of course, owning a VZW Nexus, I wont be holding my breath for an official OTA any time soon.. I'll be looking forward to an AOSP/AOKP based on 4.1 :)
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Shit. Screw waiting. Go get it now if you're not already on it. Vicious-Liquid already released the JB ROM for the VZW GNex last night. ;)

Overall I was quite impressed. There was far more added to JB then I figured there would be. Google really hit it out of the park. Especially with things like app delta updates, Google Now, and Project Butter.

Nexus 7 is a game changer in the tablet market. Finally a tablet in a price point I'm willing to pay.

The Google Glass demo was absolutely amazing. I hope Apple was taking notes on how to give an exciting keynote and actually INNOVATE with iOS again.
 
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