New Silverstone Alta T1 (New Unibody TJ07 Successor!)

[Blackstone]

Just stumbled upon this announcement from Silverstone. The legendary TJ07 returneth as the new Alta T1!

 

[pendragon1]

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(no pics when i asked)

 

[Blackstone]

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See photos.

 

[Blackstone]

I don’t understand the airflow at all but I hope it works.

 

[Nobu]

I don’t understand the airflow at all but I hope it works.

Looks like (as setup) it comes in through the left and right sides, and goes out through the back and top sides.

 

[SamuelL421]

Looks great, some specs (from their Computex news release):

https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/p...howcases_revolutionary_solutions_computex2024

For its first public unveiling, the ALTA T1 represents another mega-tower workstation aimed at pushing the boundaries of innovation and aesthetics. It accommodates SSI-EEB (12” x 13”) motherboards and features a total of 8 PCI expansion slots, making it ideal for multi-CPU, and multi-GPU workstation configurations. In terms of cooling, the chassis interior is equipped with three 420mm radiator mounts, providing a substantial cooling surface to meet the increased power and cooling requirements of modern workstation components such as the Nvidia RTX A6000 GPU and Zen 4-based Ryzen Threadripper 7000 series CPU.

Dual PSU compatibility is another feature in the ALTA T1, aligned with the true SilverStone workstation philosophy. This is a feature SilverStone implemented in many of its cases since server and workstation chassis benefits from the installation of a secondary power supply to provide additional boost in performance and stability.

 

[ND40oz]

The legendary FT07 returneth as the new Alta T1!

Did you mean the TJ07 or the FT01?

Can't find any specs on the materials used on the new Alta T1 but it needs to have an aluminum unibody if it even wants to be mentioned in the same breath as those two.

 

[pendragon1]

Did you mean the TJ07 or the FT01?

Can't find any specs on the materials used on the new Alta T1 but it needs to have an aluminum unibody if it even wants to be mentioned in the same breath as those two.

hence the "wat?!". its so new there is zero info out. im assuming the pics are grabs from a computex vid.

 

[Blackstone]

Did you mean the TJ07 or the FT01?

Can't find any specs on the materials used on the new Alta T1 but it needs to have an aluminum unibody if it even wants to be mentioned in the same breath as those two.

That is aluminum. Look at it. It isn’t made of cheese.

 

[Blackstone]

Did you mean the TJ07 or the FT01?

Can't find any specs on the materials used on the new Alta T1 but it needs to have an aluminum unibody if it even wants to be mentioned in the same breath as those two.

TJ07. I had one. Silverstone said it is an updated TJ07.

TJ07 was awesome but graphics card cooling was not ideal. Is this one exhausting out the top?

TJ07 was noisy too. I prefer my FT01 with 180mm fans overall.

 

[Blackstone]

I don’t understand the purpose of the sideways fans.

 

[Carlyle2020]

Are those 420 rads .. not mounted to the top but held by clips with springs?
I sure would like to see more of that mounting mechanism.

As well as more details to the bottom part.
That´s not antoher rad in there, is it?

 

[Nobu]

In terms of cooling, the chassis interior is equipped with three 420mm radiator mounts,

Yes

 

[ND40oz]

That is aluminum. Look at it. It isn’t made of cheese.

I'm looking at the potato pictures you provided and there's no way I can tell that it's 100% aluminum. Do you have anything confirming that?

Actually, if you look at the spec sheet filmed in kitguru's video it says it's aluminum and steel, yeah, no thanks.

https://www.kitguru.net/components/...cks-out-silverstones-2500w-psu-and-new-cases/

 

[Blackstone]

I'm looking at the potato pictures you provided and there's no way I can tell that it's 100% aluminum. Do you have anything confirming that?

Actually, if you look at the spec sheet filmed in kitguru's video it says it's aluminum and steel, yeah, no thanks.

https://www.kitguru.net/components/...cks-out-silverstones-2500w-psu-and-new-cases/

Nobody does all aluminum these days. I’m sure it is aluminum body and steel interior.

 

[ND40oz]

Nobody does all aluminum these days. I’m sure it is aluminum body and steel interior.

That's the point, they've all ditched their flagships and are releasing shit at top tier prices. So, I'll stick with my LIan Li PC-V2120 until someone finally releases an actual premium workstation case again.

 

[Blackstone]

That's the point, they've all ditched their flagships and are releasing shit at top tier prices. So, I'll stick with my LIan Li PC-V2120 until someone finally releases an actual premium workstation case again.

Since when is steel interior shit?

Edit: I guess my FT01 is all aluminum. I’d like to know the price tag before evaluating this case. I’m guessing prices for all aluminum would be eye watering.

 

[ND40oz]

Since when is steel interior shit?

It is when it's released as a flagship product at premium pricing.

Edit: I guess my FT01 is all aluminum. I’d like to know the price tag before evaluating this case. I’m guessing prices for all aluminum would be eye watering.

If it's cheap, go for it. But the TJ07 retailed for $350 back in 2005, if it's going to be its claimed successor, you'd expect similar materials and pricing that matches inflation.

 

[Blackstone]

I’d need to see how the GPU is cooled.

 

[pendragon1]

I’d need to see how the GPU is cooled.

because there are no fan blowing directly at it? shouldnt matter too much with 3 140 intakes, the air is going that way anyways.

 

[777light777]

First post here, thought I would share some more pics and info I found with you guys.

Exterior: Aluminum unibody frame, bent on 4 sides, black anodized and sand blasted.
Side Panels: Tempered glass window/steel, black painted with matching texture.
Interior: Steel, black painted with matching texture.

Release: 2025

Price: TBD, but I can give you an educated guess on price if we compare similar past offerings from $ilver$tone:

ALTA F2 (99L): $999 (2023)
Price adjusted for inflation: $1047

Temjin TJ11 (94.5L): $659 (2011)
Price adjusted for inflation: $938

Temjin TJ07 (69.6L): $349 (2006)
Price adjusted for inflation: $552

ALTA F1 (56.8L): $299 (2021)
Price adjusted for inflation: $358

Fortress FT02 (64.9L): $249 (2010)
Price adjusted for inflation: $360

ALTA T1 (82L): $699-999 <---
Better NOT cost MORE than that SS, lol.

Here's some more pics, from different sides:

 

[Blackstone]

So this is a water cooling case, basically?

 

[pendragon1]

So this is a water cooling case, basically?

no. its a whatever way you want to do case.

 

[Blackstone]

no. its a whatever way you want to go case.

I don’t see how an air cooled graphics card benefits from this design.

 

[pendragon1]

I don’t see how an air cooled graphics card benefits from this design.

just because it doesnt have fans blowing directly at the gpu doesnt mean its only for water cooling.

 

[hititnquitit]

With the right fans and placement you can cool any component adequately from what I'm looking at. But yeah, for me. WCing all day long.

 

[777light777]

Honestly all SilverStone needed to update was:

1) Tempered glass side window.
2) Rad support brackets.
3) Modern front IO.
4) Better cable management.
5) More 140/180mm fan support.

I added tempered glass and a cable cover to my TJ11, and that refreshed the look and feel of it by a lot!

Even the TJ11 isn't all-aluminum BTW, but most is and it's super thick too.

I am interested in buying the ALTA T1 too, but SilverStone will have to not overprice it to death.

 

[Blackstone]

So if I don’t put a rad in the lower compartment, can it take in air with fans? In the old TJ07 the lower compartment was for HDDs only.

My god, that was a beastly case, the TJ07. I tend to think FT01 improved on it, which is why I sold my TJ07 in 2009 and still use FT01 use it today.

 

[777light777]

So if I don’t put a rad in the lower compartment, can it take in air with fans? In the old TJ07 the lower compartment was for HDDs only.

My god, that was a beastly case, the TJ07. I tend to think FT01 improved on it, which is why I sold my TJ07 in 2009 and still use FT01 use it today.

Yeah, there is no divider panel there, air would flow up because it has no other place to go but into the GPU... There is an optional 4-slot vertical riser for the GPU also.

Bottom intake = GPU cooling.
Side intake = CPU/MB/RAM cooling.

I would do bottom intake, side intake, top exhast, back exhaust. It even looks like 3 180mm fans could fit as a bottom intake.

 

[RanceJustice]

Silverstone have 3 cases that so far have my attention and this is one of them...though price , materials, and other factors complicate matters. So far its...

--
Alta D1 - A highly modular server/workstation focused case, debuted at Computex, price unknown

RM600 / RM61-312 - 6U high performance enthusiast meets server w/ optional rackmounting; RM61-312 change out lower level for SAS hotswappable backplane for 12 drives. Announced in Feb2024, now finally available. RM600 = $700, RM61-312 = $870 . I wrote a thread about it - https://hardforum.com/threads/silve...onal-rack-mounting-similar-offerings.2034338/

Alta T1 - Currently discussed TJ07 successor., debuted at Computex, price unknown
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As others have said , there are concerns for the Alta series (which seem to be Silverstone's ultra-luxe, ultra-expensive branding) despite the promise. These are somewhat unusual cases today, even referencing back to some things that old [H] denizen remember back when, but there are also some compromises. Old Silverstone, from the TJ07 to my Sugo SG01-Evolution were FULL aluminum, but even the high end now like those mentioned have steel and plastic structures with aluminum being only for certain decorative facing elements; granted, more use of it in these Altas then some others. There are also some other issues that I wish they had updated - for instance, the T1 here seems to have front panel I/O that is not likely to be upgradable. While it coudl be possible that behind a module could be swapped out,the very specific cut-outs would mean that any update would have to be exactly in that layout. This is a long time pet peeve of mine with cases, even huge desk cases or other expensive setups, where despite prices being high the I/O is not easily replaced /upgraded over the long years one i intended to own and use a case. Al of this comes to the big issue that Silverstone's pricing for these, easily upward of $500 and close to $1000+ for some, is hard to stomach in light of the above - the lack of certain features, not all aluminum construction, and a major company like Silverstone often doing fabrication in China or similar locales.

These are prices that were formerly only for boutique, niche custom builders like CaseLabs. These companies used top end materials, were massively upgrade capable and modular, and often were built in the US or other countries, helping to justify the comparatively expensive pricing. Watching major global corporations using off th shelf fabs, common materials, as part of a mass scale operation its harder to see these prices as justified. However, there are releatively few competitors unfortunately - as I write in the RM600 thread there aren't other 6U enthusiast cooling rackmount optional alternatives, so Silverstone can push a take it or leave it view. The Alta D1 is rather unique and niche as well, and even the T1 is similar only to similar products from other companies like the Phanteks Enthoo Elite which have similar pricetags. Maybe its just changing times maybe its other forces at work in the market, but even if otherwise interested its hard to justify these prices Silverstone seems to feel comfortable. In an era wheer a LianLi O11D Evo is in the $200-ish range, its hard to wonder what makes these sort of things with a price 4x that justified.

I can only hope the new CaseLabs gets up and running ASAP so we can see an alternative.

P.S. - Anyone remember the other updated version of the TJ07 made by a company called XForma? XForma MKII was related to (and sold by as I recall) TitanRig/MDPC-X and was meant to be sort of the aeshethically sleek alternative to the boxy CaseLabs, but had customization and materials on par as well. Its very considerable pricetag and niche appeal made it a limited run as one would expect, but I wonder if it came a little bit later it would have been more successful in the days of video'd custom builds and the like.

 

[777light777]

The TJ07 isn't actually all-aluminum, the motherboard tray and the PSU bracket are nikel-plated steel.

 

[RanceJustice]

The TJ07 isn't actually all-aluminum, the motherboard tray and the PSU bracket are nikel-plated steel.

Is that so? Well, I figured there were some accents so the bracket doesn't surprise me , but I would have thought the motherboard tray would have been aluminum with the rest. My SG01-E has a plastic mirrored acrylic surround on the front I/O cutouts, but I still count it as overall aluminum because the vast majority of the case's major/load bearing etc...structures are purely aluminum. Later models of the SG01-F and beyond however, changed the body for SECC steel and at least the pages reference this. For the TJ07 even Silverstone's product page mentions the materials as being 2 different thicknesses of aluminum - https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/legacy/info/computer-chassis/tj07/ - and references it as "all-aluminum" in the description.

I can understand making some allowances for some minor components (though I grant that it would have been good to list something like a removable mobo tray), but even so any of thes older models that had a vast majority "all aluminum" construction differ significantly from most cases these days. Even Silverstone and LianLi's newer high end offerings like the famous O11D EVO XL have signfiicantly less aluminum and often completely removed from the core structures, at best relegated to a thin veneer on the outside decorative areas eor the like. This certainly saves money but comes at a cost of increased weight and sometimes build quality (depending on the quality of aluminum), as well as being in principle harder to stomach alongside an increased price.

 

[777light777]

Is that so? Well, I figured there were some accents so the bracket doesn't surprise me , but I would have thought the motherboard tray would have been aluminum with the rest. My SG01-E has a plastic mirrored acrylic surround on the front I/O cutouts, but I still count it as overall aluminum because the vast majority of the case's major/load bearing etc...structures are purely aluminum. Later models of the SG01-F and beyond however, changed the body for SECC steel and at least the pages reference this. For the TJ07 even Silverstone's product page mentions the materials as being 2 different thicknesses of aluminum - https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/legacy/info/computer-chassis/tj07/ - and references it as "all-aluminum" in the description.

I can understand making some allowances for some minor components (though I grant that it would have been good to list something like a removable mobo tray), but even so any of thes older models that had a vast majority "all aluminum" construction differ significantly from most cases these days. Even Silverstone and LianLi's newer high end offerings like the famous O11D EVO XL have signfiicantly less aluminum and often completely removed from the core structures, at best relegated to a thin veneer on the outside decorative areas eor the like. This certainly saves money but comes at a cost of increased weight and sometimes build quality (depending on the quality of aluminum), as well as being in principle harder to stomach alongside an increased price.

Part of the problem is aluminum has increased substantially in price, while tempered glass has gone down with economies of scale...

The TJ11, for example is also an aluminum unibody bent twice, and all-screw no rivet construction.

This ALTA T1 is aluminum unibody bent 4 times and perfected by hand, also looks to be no/low rivet construction.

These cases also look a lot nicer than a CaseLabs case, those are very industrial/plain in comparison, and don't have to be bent multiple times...

The SG01-E has a nikel-plated steel center brace.

 

[777light777]

Some more pics, release Q1 2025 apparently:

 

[777light777]

Some ALTA T1 specs, features and possible features:

1) Removable MB tray.
2) Top push buttons for side panel removal.
3) Coming with casters.
4) It weighs 20kg empty, or 45lbs.
5) Mostly/fully revetless construction.
6) 4-slot vertical GPU riser optional/included?
7) Dual, and possibly triple power supply support.
8) Sandblasted anodized aluminum unibody bent 4 times by machine, then perfected by hand.
9) Floating, removable mounts for RADs/fans.
10) Magnetic dust filters.
11) Bottom side panel looks like it's magnetic.
12) Lower power supply shroud may be removable.