New Netflix Restriction: One Stream Per Customer

bobdabilder said:
I cancelled my account today. When people stop tolerating this, they will listen.
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It is not entirely Netflix's fault. They have to source the media from the studios that produce them. Those studios put insane stipulations on their IP that strangle emerging technologies like streaming and Netflix.

Those studios helped put a block on Netflix receiving new releases for X number of days after release. Those same studios charge Netflix crazy license fee's for streaming services since Netflix can buy one disk and rip it for thousands to stream. With physical rental services movies were actually purchased.

Don't blame the messenger, if Netflix wants to keep growing and expanding they have to bow to those that create the content they provide. I wish they would stand up a little more and show the stupid studios what could be achieved with a proper business model but the Studios keep pushing people away. Precarious situation though, piss off the studios and they could lose all of their content.
 
I got no issue with only being able to stream 1movie at a time but i have 4 people in my house that use it and they wont let me charge 4 accounts to my creditcard/atm card
 
I only use next on one device, but all the bullshit they are starting. I think I may just cancel my service and find something else.
 
The problem that I see with the recent netflix changes comes down to the statement made by there CEO about the quality of of content that they provide. He basically said that netflix is not there to provide the best content or the newest content, but rather the most content.

Of all the times I have visited dvd rental stores nobody spent large amounts of time sifting through the crap titles in the middle of the store. People want the new releases and the quality releases.

After paying for a netflix account for the past two years and really hoping and waiting for them to beef up the streaming service with more newer content, that statement from him turned the lights on for me. It's time to cancel.

I don't like to pay anyone my hard earned cash for mediocre anything. The statement that he made says to me that Netflix just doesn't care about there customer base and supplying them with quality programming. As long as there's tons of crap to choose from why give them quality.

Also I think there suggested titles system is crazy, all I get is old stuff circa 1960's and older. Even after making my taste selections and putting all those older generations as a very low priority or not interested at all.
 
ImperfectLink said:
I do multiple streams fairly often as my three year old watches his shows while I watch something a little more interesting only iPad. The moment this goes into effect for me I'll start looking into alternatives.
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Start looking. It's in the TOS.

Netflix TOS said:
Personal Computer Requirements and Device Limitations: To enjoy watching instantly via your personal computer, your equipment must satisfy certain system requirements. Click here to view the various system requirements. To see partners who offer Netflix ready devices you may use to access our service, click here. YOU MAY INSTANTLY WATCH ON UP TO SIX UNIQUE AUTHORIZED NETFLIX READY DEVICES. YOU WILL BE ALLOWED TO INSTANTLY WATCH SIMULTANEOUSLY ON ONLY ONE SUCH DEVICE AT ANY GIVEN TIME. For certain membership plans in the United States, you may instantly watch simultaneously on more than one Netflix ready device within your household. Click here to view the number of devices on which you may simultaneously view movies & TV shows that are associated with your plan. The number of devices and concurrent streams may change without notice to you. For certain limited membership plans in the United States, your available Netflix ready device may be limited to personal computers.
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If all of your watching is within your household and you can only do one at a time, then it's because you're on too low of a plan.

Nobody, per the TOS, is allowed to share their netflix account to allow a family member, friend, etc... to watch Netflix from a different location.
 
techrat said:
Start looking. It's in the TOS.



If all of your watching is within your household and you can only do one at a time, then it's because you're on too low of a plan.

Nobody, per the TOS, is allowed to share their netflix account to allow a family member, friend, etc... to watch Netflix from a different location.
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well what if I need to watch netflix from a different location myself?
 
I dont see why this is a big issue for people. It seems like people who have been exploiting their 1 account with many streams going on from various locations are the ones who are upset.

It seems perfectly logical that you cant share your 1 account with an 10 person family allowing everyone to stream at the same time from various locations lol...
 
The price hike is a necessity on the longer run. The cost to acquire and retain rights for content is skyrocketing as studios/networks demand more an ever increasing price tag. While they may be the market leader in streaming, their streaming model and content is hardly unique. The need more money to acquire more content to stay ahead of the growing competition.

I think the problem is that they will eventually have problems just affording the current content they have available. Acquiring more new releases as they come out and highly prized targets like the HBO library is probably out of the question realistically.
 
Retsam said:
It seems perfectly logical that you cant share your 1 account with an 10 person family allowing everyone to stream at the same time from various locations lol...
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Not interested in what's logical or fair, businesses don't operate on fairness and neither should consumers. They raised prices and reduced value. That is the fact. Every customer should be pissed.
 
Wasn't this supposely a system bug by netflix and you can still stream multiple streams? Saw the update over at engadget
 
I can't get 2 streams to play at the same time on my PC. anyone else have this issue?
 
FYMbyIce said:
Not interested in what's logical or fair, businesses don't operate on fairness and neither should consumers. They raised prices and reduced value. That is the fact. Every unreasonable customer should be pissed.
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FTFY
 
Their competitor tpb allows unlimited streams. here's to competition.
 
I've seen this false news reporting on multiple sites so far, caught like wildfire, why's that?

At least the updates to the articles clarified the mistake, but I'm also seeing lotsa damage done to the company's image over false info based on bbs posts, OUCH!
 
PLEASE DONT POST unless you have read about Netflix and thier current contracts and what they will be paying come early next year. UNINFORMED comments are worthless and make the poster look quite stupid. Complaining about the content, that is fine, Complaining about stream quality, no problem. Complaining bout Stream count without reading the TOS.. dumb. Complaining about pricing without knowing the facts shows ignorance.

hating Netflix is fine, but dont hate them becuase your ignorant and havent read the TOS or know what they are paying and wil be paying for Streaming.

I have never understood the venom for people who protect there product. Im stealing netflix, I cant stream anymore, fook Netlfix! Grow up, there is one constant, Nothing is free... except AntiVirus pro! please install it today along with 5 or 6 free SEARCHBARS! (please dont, that was sarcasm, its malware).
 
Lots of people in here that have no idea how the movie industry works. Netflix isn't raising prices because they hate having customers, they're raising prices because their costs went up when the movie studios realized streaming isn't going away. If you want to price of Netflix and other streaming services to go down, stop buying DVDs and going to the movies.
 
wizdum said:
Lots of people in here that have no idea how the movie industry works. Netflix isn't raising prices because they hate having customers, they're raising prices because their costs went up when the movie studios realized streaming isn't going away. If you want to price of Netflix and other streaming services to go down, stop buying DVDs and going to the movies.
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Lots of people don't care how the movie industry works. It's up to Netflix to provide value to their customers, whether that be done by negotiating better contracts, or leveraging with their current userbase. Losing customers isn't going to bring more money to the movie studios, I'm sure Netflix can convince them of that if they have good leadership.
 
LeninGHOLA said:
Lots of people don't care how the movie industry works. It's up to Netflix to provide value to their customers, whether that be done by negotiating better contracts, or leveraging with their current userbase. Losing customers isn't going to bring more money to the movie studios, I'm sure Netflix can convince them of that if they have good leadership.
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Netflix is better off without customers like that. I am in sales myself and I'd happily lose a sale to get rid of a stupid arrogant customer.
 
Damn the no edit. I'm talking about the whiners who don't care if netflix loses a billion dollars.
 
robble said:
Netflix is better off without customers like that. I am in sales myself and I'd happily lose a sale to get rid of a stupid arrogant customer.
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You're in sales, but don't think a company should compete to gain customers? You don't think Netflix should try and improve their services and try to gain leverage against movie studios?
 
LeninGHOLA said:
You're in sales, but don't think a company should compete to gain customers? You don't think Netflix should try and improve their services and try to gain leverage against movie studios?
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not at the cost of going bankrupt which is exactly what would happen if many of the people in this thread had their way.
 
robble said:
not at the cost of going bankrupt which is exactly what would happen if many of the people in this thread had their way.
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Exactly why they should use their massive customer base to try and leverage concessions from the movie industry. The industry, HBO, Startz etc are the ones that need to change.
 
LeninGHOLA said:
Exactly why they should use their massive customer base to try and leverage concessions from the movie industry. The industry, HBO, Startz etc are the ones that need to change.
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Netflix has much less power than you think. Yes, they have a larger customer base, but the content providers have other, much more profitable avenues of making money. They have the leverage, not Netflix. I doubt HBO or Starz hardly cares about the size of the customer base, they care about how much Netflix is going to pay them. Besides, with such a large market share of online streaming, that means the content providers should be able to squeeze more money out of Netflix, and they are.
 
LeninGHOLA said:
Exactly why they should use their massive customer base to try and leverage concessions from the movie industry. The industry, HBO, Startz etc are the ones that need to change.
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I fully agree. The studios and distributors need to get with the times but we've seen how ruthless they are. I doubt netflix has as much leverage as you think. The studios would make more money selling directly to the consumer.

I have a feeling they will try to squash netflix/hulu etc so eventually it'll be like cable where you have to get it directly from each distributor. Imagine having to subscribe to all the different studios to watch their movies. They are trying to kill the middle man so they can make even more profits.
 
fss69 said:
Netflix has much less power than you think. Yes, they have a larger customer base, but the content providers have other, much more profitable avenues of making money. They have the leverage, not Netflix. I doubt HBO or Starz hardly cares about the size of the customer base, they care about how much Netflix is going to pay them. Besides, with such a large market share of online streaming, that means the content providers should be able to squeeze more money out of Netflix, and they are.
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well said. the problem is they are trying to squeeze too much money out of netflix.
 
fss69 said:
Netflix has much less power than you think. Yes, they have a larger customer base, but the content providers have other, much more profitable avenues of making money. They have the leverage, not Netflix. I doubt HBO or Starz hardly cares about the size of the customer base, they care about how much Netflix is going to pay them. Besides, with such a large market share of online streaming, that means the content providers should be able to squeeze more money out of Netflix, and they are.
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Between a rock and a hard place. September saw a large spike in accounts being changed to streaming only, and flat out cancellations. The more the studios make it difficult or expensive for consumers to get their media, the more people turn to piracy (right or wrong). The sad fact is that MPAA can make up for the lost profits in litigation, and Netflix/consumers are the only ones getting hurt by it.
 
snowcat said:
In Tennessee, it's now illegal to share your Netflix account outside your home, so this change doesn't really hurt us in the state.
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Wonder how this would apply if you had multiple homes in multiple states. IE: Vacation home :).
 
I bought netflix for my daughters room. I installed a HDTV in each room and ran cat 5e to it. They both can watch stuff at the same time and it's only 7.99. Im saving atleast 13 bucks a month because I would have had to rent 2 more HD cable boxes at 10 bucks a month each. They love it and I am happy. Sometime Ill watch something on the PS3 when they are not watching it. I am a happy Netflix user.
 
WBurchnall said:
Wonder how this would apply if you had multiple homes in multiple states. IE: Vacation home :).
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If you can afford a vacation home, I think you can afford a couple accounts :p

But seriously though, it's not IP-restricted, just per-DVD/Blu-ray number restricted, so you can "bring" your Netflix account anywhere,
 
robble said:
not at the cost of going bankrupt which is exactly what would happen if many of the people in this thread had their way.
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They'll have no one to blame but themselves. You seem to think a business deserves to succeed just because it's in business. If they can't balance their pricing with the value of the product then too bad so sad; tell it walking. Which is the same thing they will tell any customer who complains to them about pricing.
 
The problem is netflix made things TOO good at first, now people are mad at getting a "fair" deal vs a too good to be true one.

If I want to watch more than one thing from the cable company at the same time, whats needed - another set box @more $. Its been this way for eternity.

Dont be surprised when a few years from now netflix has more competition and they (including netflix) have ads in all of their streams. Its coming people.
 
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