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New gaming rig

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SoulHunter

Limp Gawd
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1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing? etc
Gaming
2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?
don't wan't to go over 1400 but will if I have to
3) Where do you live?
Canada
4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. "Everything" is not a valid answer. Please list out all the parts you'll need.
CPU
Case
GPU
RAM
HD
MB
PS
DVD
Wireless adapter
5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing? Please be especially specific about the power supply. List make and model.
no
6) Will you be overclocking?
might at some point
7) What size monitor do you have and/or plan to have?
1920X1200
8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?
from here to september, or later if I don't get what I wan't
9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? etc.
raid, Crossfire, SLi would be nice but don't think you can get both
10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license? If so, what OS? 32bit or 64bit?
64 windows 7 profesional

I would like to keep an AMD build, been thinking of getting 460 sli... but sli only work on nvidia boards (I think) and I don't know how good they are.

Qty. Product Description Savings Total Price

1
SAMSUNG 24x DVD Burner - Bulk SATA Model SH-S243N/BEBS LightScribe Support
Item #:N82E16827151216
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$23.99
1
Rosewill RNX-N300 IEEE 802.11b/g/n Wireless-N 2.0 PCI (1T2R) Up to 150Mbps Data Rates/ WPA/WPA2 (AES, 64,128-WEP with shared-key authentication) Cisco CCS V1.0, V2.0 and V3.0 compliant/ Vista R
Item #:N82E16833166038
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$29.99
$19.99
1
COOLER MASTER CM 690 II Advanced RC-692-KKN2 Black Computer Case
Item #:N82E16811119216
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$99.99
$89.99
1
CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W Power Supply
Item #:N82E16817139010
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$30.00 Instant
$10.00 USD Mail-in Rebate
$179.99
$149.99
2
Western Digital Caviar Blue 640GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #:N82E16822136218
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$139.98
1
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
Item #:N82E16820231278
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$100.99
1
XFX Radeon HD 5850 HD-585X-ZNFC Video Card w/ Eyefinity
Item #:N82E16814150494
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
$298.99
1
ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813131631
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy




AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
Item #: N82E16819103808
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
-$20.00 Combo
$321.89
$291.89
Grand Total: $1,115.81

With shipping and tax $1,235.31

either that or Intel build:

1
SAMSUNG 24x DVD Burner - Bulk SATA Model SH-S243N/BEBS LightScribe Support
Item #:N82E16827151216
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$23.99
1
CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W Power Supply
Item #:N82E16817139010
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$30.00 Instant
$10.00 USD Mail-in Rebate
$179.99
$149.99
1
Rosewill RNX-N300 IEEE 802.11b/g/n Wireless-N 2.0 PCI (1T2R) Up to 150Mbps Data Rates/ WPA/WPA2 (AES, 64,128-WEP with shared-key authentication) Cisco CCS V1.0, V2.0 and V3.0 compliant/ Vista R
Item #:N82E16833166038
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$29.99
$19.99
1
COOLER MASTER CM 690 II Advanced RC-692-KKN2 Black Computer Case
Item #:N82E16811119216
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$99.99
$89.99
1
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
Item #:N82E16820231278
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$100.99
2
Western Digital Caviar Blue 640GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #:N82E16822136218
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$139.98
1
ASUS GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 Video Card
Item #:N82E16814121391
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
$239.49
1
GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD4P ATX Intel Motherboard w/ USB 3.0 & SATA 6 Gb/s
Item #: N82E16813128409
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy




Intel Core i5-750 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
Item #: N82E16819115215
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
-$19.99 Combo
$408.98
$388.99
Grand Total: $1,153.41
shipping + tax 1290.45

a bit more... is it worth it for potential 460 sli awesomeness or should I stay with the cheaper single card build?

Here is what I have as preliminary... for the video card... I have been looking at all of them and pick this one cuz of the promo code. Don't know if it's any good or if I should switch to http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127500 or http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121375 or something else.

Thanks for the help
 
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I don't have enough time to assemble a complete build list, but I can give you a few pointers:

- Since you're using NewEgg.ca, and you've referenced a combo deal or two, please provide some links to some of the other items you're considering. The majority of users here are from the US, so few of us know the difference between US and Canadian dollars. Speaking of which, are you going to buy everything from NewEgg.ca?

- Drop the RAID card, as most AM3 boards that we recommend here support RAID 0 and RAID 1 at the very least. However, most AM3 boards support either CrossFire or SLI, not both. You'll need to choose one and go from there.

- Swap out the 640GB hard drive for the 500GB hard drive. The Caviar Blue 500GB drive is a single-platter design that makes it faster than its 640GB "sibling."

- If gaming is your priority, drop the X6 1055T for the X4 955 BE and consider going with a GTX 460 SLI setup right off the bat.
 
- Ditch the Antec 902 as it is not worth its price at all. Check out the Coolermaster RC692 690 II ATX case instead.

- Ditch the WD6400AAKS drives as they've been superseded in performance by the WD5000AAKS drives.

- What's with the Rosewill storage controller?

- In order to use SLI with AMD CPUs, you need to use a motherboard using a Nvidia chipset. However you can use both Crossfire and SLI if you went with the Intel route with the Core i5 750 and this eVGA P55 motherboard:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188064

- The Phenom II 1055T is not worth the extra cash for a gaming PC. The better bang for the buck CPUs would either be the Phenom II 955 BE or the Core i5 750.

EDIT: Did not see Tiraides' post.:D
 
about the controller... it's now gone, replaced the wireless, but it was a free gift so that's what that was
and about where I'm going to buy all the stuff, Newegg is where I fin everything is cheaper, but if someone proves me wrong, I don't mind going elsewhere
Sticking with the 640 for extra storage space and cheaper price
 
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does anyone have any input on the GPU does that non reference fan work well? or advice on sli possible AMD motherboards?
 
 
SoulHunter said:
does anyone have any input on the GPU does that non reference fan work well? or advice on sli possible AMD motherboards?
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Non-reference fan will work well. There's only two socket AM3 Nvidia 900 series chipset SLI capable motherboards on Newegg. You can find them pretty easily.
 
Thanks hossdaddy I was able to shave off a few $ using that site,
and the question about the SLI AMD Motherboards, is are they any good? or should I stay away and stick with the AMD motherboards?
 
Green drives generally max out at 5400 RPM, making them relatively slow and, IMO, not a great deal considering the cheap prices for significantly faster 7200 RPM models. You're much better off putting your OS and critical apps on a small (60 - 80 gb) SSD and your other files on a single larger 7200 RPM drive (such as the WD Blue or Black, or the Samsung F3).

I can't speak to how 2 caviar green in RAID 0 would feel but you could probably find that benchmark somewhere. It's probably not worth it. Also, just a thought, but I think green drives "park" a bit - meaning they're slow to spin-up - which could cause problems with controllers.
 
ok, i'll stay away then, been thinking about SSD price came down alot, but still spending 100$ on 30gb still alot, does anywone know of any good deal on any good one at around 70$
 
SoulHunter said:
ok, i'll stay away then, been thinking about SSD price came down alot, but still spending 100$ on 30gb still alot, does anywone know of any good deal on any good one at around 70$
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You can often get a low-capacity Kingston in that price range, but, if you really want an ssd, I would recommend getting something larger. I picked up a 60 gb OCZ Agility 2 for 100$ AR recently: keep your eyes on the hot deals forum. The next step up would be the slightly larger Intel X25's, though they're also a tad slower.
 
will do, with a little luck i'll get a nice computer with a nice SSD in the near future:)
 
How worth it would you say the SSD would be, is it noticeably faster then raid 0 or single when having it just for OS and core stuff? OCZ Agility 2 is on sale for 146 cnd
 
Depends on who you ask. For me, SSDs make everything feel way, way snappier: Windows loads faster, programs load faster, transfers are faster etc. On the other hand, some folks say that they don't notice much difference at all - it depends on your own valuation and perception, and of course on your use.

General consensus (and of course there are naysayers) seems to be that SSDs are well worth it if you can afford it. With regards to RAID 0, SSDs will be, in general, significantly faster and more reliable, though of course it depends on the models and situations involved.
 
How hard would it be to install windows temporarily on a HDD and then transfer it to a SSD at a later time? would I get into license bs or could I juste wipe the partition on the HDD and then instal it on the SSD?
 
SoulHunter said:
How hard would it be to install windows temporarily on a HDD and then transfer it to a SSD at a later time? would I get into license bs or could I juste wipe the partition on the HDD and then instal it on the SSD?
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For SSDs, it's been highly recommended to do a fresh install. While cloning the drive will work as lt_shiro said, the problem is that there will be adverse performance problems with the SSD. As such, it's recommended to do a fresh install with a SSD.

EDIT: Case in point:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1534491

The OP's performance issues was due to the fact that he had cloned the OS from a normal HDD to a SSD.
 
SoulHunter said:
Nice to know... would a fresh install run me into any problems with windows license?
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Potentially, but there are workarounds for just about every version of Windows out there. I just reinstalled on a SSD with a student upgrade license that I've used on about 5 computers in as many months - just involved a reg tweak or two. If you're interested I can dig up the method again.

Also, I'm with Danny_Bui on this one: try, if you can, to fresh install on the ssd. Cloning can work but you risk misaligned sectors, among other things.
 
If I find what i'm looking for before, which I hope I do I won't need it, but if I end up buying it later I might message you up, thanks :)
 
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