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I understand that the ABS 900W PSU would provide just as enough power as the x650. But I don't see why you would want to pay for a 900W PSU that can only output 800W. Are you saying that the modular cables makes that ABS 900W worth it even though it's only 800W? So in other words, an 800W modular PSU?

Well if the OP thinks the x650 is worth it's price then I dont' see why the 900W abs wouldn't be comparable. I'm just trying to make it as comparable as it can be. Both modular, abs slightly cheaper, 90% efficiency, and has some extra power to boot. Not sure why it would be a bad thing.
 
Well if the OP thinks the x650 is worth it's price then I dont' see why the 900W abs wouldn't be comparable. I'm just trying to make it as comparable as it can be. Both modular, abs slightly cheaper, 90% efficiency, and has some extra power to boot. Not sure why it would be a bad thing.
The ABS 900W isn't comparable since it's A) it uses lesser quality parts and B) it can't output its rated wattage. That's the bad thing I see with your recommendation: You're recommending a 900W PSU that's only capable of 800W. I mean, for the much cash, there are other modular PSUs such as the $150 Silverstone ST85F-P 850W Modular PSU.
 
The ABS 900W isn't comparable since it's A) it uses lesser quality parts and B) it can't output its rated wattage. That's the bad thing I see with your recommendation: You're recommending a 900W PSU that's only capable of 800W. I mean, for the much cash, there are other modular PSUs such as the $150 Silverstone ST85F-P 850W Modular PSU.

A) you're assuming the op will use the ABS at full load. B) not sure about build quality but reading Hard's review doesn't say it was lesser quality. Umm the ABS is slightly cheaper than the x650 so not sure about what you mean by for that" much cash". ABS would also hit 90% efficient at 50% load so I'm not sure how that sliverstone is comparable to the x650.
 
A) you're assuming the op will use the ABS at full load. B) not sure about build quality but reading Hard's review doesn't say it was lesser quality. Umm the ABS is slightly cheaper than the x650 so not sure about what you mean by for that" much cash". ABS would also hit 90% efficient at 50% load so I'm not sure how that sliverstone is comparable to the x650.

Again you're not listening or reading correctly: WHY PAY FOR A 900W PSU THAT"S ONLY CAPABLE OF PROVIDING 800W OF POWER???? For god's sake, it's like paying for 8 hotdogs and only getting 6 hotdogs. Sure you may not eat all 8 hot dogs but if you're paying for 8 hotdogs, you better damn well get 8 hot dogs. Get it?

We've established that the OP won't use the PSU at full load. Fine. But I don't see why anyone would buy the ABS 900W PSU when the Silverstone 850W PSU can be had for the same price but is close to the same efficiency level.

You can see the lesser quality of ABS simply by just comparing the internal pics of the ABS to the internal pics of the Seasonic.
 
Hey guys you are starting to stray off...lets help the OP without too much bickering with each other. Thanks!
 
Again you're not listening or reading correctly: WHY PAY FOR A 900W PSU THAT"S ONLY CAPABLE OF PROVIDING 800W OF POWER???? For god's sake, it's like paying for 8 hotdogs and only getting 6 hotdogs. Sure you may not eat all 8 hot dogs but if you're paying for 8 hotdogs, you better damn well get 8 hot dogs. Get it?

We've established that the OP won't use the PSU at full load. Fine. But I don't see why anyone would buy the ABS 900W PSU when the Silverstone 850W PSU can be had for the same price but is close to the same efficiency level.

You can see the lesser quality of ABS simply by just comparing the internal pics of the ABS to the internal pics of the Seasonic.

Wow, what you are saying is not relevant at all. This thread is about the OP and not some extreme power user. In terms of regular usage it is comparable to the x650. Do you get it? If you're already paying for a x650 for 160 then the abs is just as comparable. The silverstone is still rated at silver. Let's just say it's 800W for the ABS @ LOAD then why is the silverstone 850W @ LOAD a better buy? Because it has 50 more watts but less efficient?
And paying for that 800W(900W) gold rated psu for 150 is somehow bad?

Actual usage is more important than just looking at pics for quality and nothing from those little pictures seem to indicate that this is a poor product in terms of build quality. Ohh, do you know how good that silverstone is in terms of build quality?
 
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And paying for that 800W(900W) gold rated psu for 150 is somehow bad?

Yes. If a PSU cannot provide it's rated wattage, then it's bad. Since that ABS 900W is rated as 900W yet can only provide 800W, then it's a bad PSU in my book since it's supposedly rated for 900W. That's all I'm saying.

Yes for regular usage, that ABS will be fine. However I don't want ANYONE to buy that PSU expecting to get 900W of power eventually. As long as the person buying that 900W PSU understands that it's actually a 800W PSU and that they're fine with that, then whatever. Good for him/her.
 
Yes. If a PSU cannot provide it's rated wattage, then it's bad. Since that ABS 900W is rated as 900W yet can only provide 800W, then it's a bad PSU in my book since it's supposedly rated for 900W. That's all I'm saying.

Yes for regular usage, that ABS will be fine. However I don't want ANYONE to buy that PSU expecting to get 900W of power eventually. As long as the person buying that 900W PSU understands that it's actually a 800W PSU and that they're fine with that, then whatever. Good for him/her.

That must be some extreme user then! Power bills must be through the roof with 900W usage. ;)
 
That must be some extreme user then! Power bills must be through the roof with 900W usage. ;)

Well other reasons why I don't want other people thinking that's a 900W PSU is due to the following:
Yes and a quick search would turn up this topic a million times over. Here is the recap:

1) APFC can fool Kill-A-Watts into giving you abnormally low readings (some times giving better than 100% efficiency)

2) Power supplies derate with temperature anywhere from 2w/c above a nominal rated at value to 10w/c.

3) Kill-A-Watt's and most power meters sample too slowly to catch transient loads (the Transient load from our tests is 117w and is COMPLETELY missed by Kill-A-Watts).

4) Power supplies last longer if you stay in the 40% to 60% range of their output.

5) power supplies are quieter if you stay in the 40% to 60% range of their output.

6) Power supplies are cooler if you stay in the 40% to 60% range of their output.


The power meters in UPS software are just as bad. You have to spend some change before you get anywhere near an accurate power meter when your PSU has APFC.

40% to 60% of 800W is different from 40% to 60% of 900W. As such, I want to make very clearly that's a 800W PSU so that there's a lesser chance of anyway getting a louder, shorter lived, and hotter PSU.
 
Well other reasons why I don't want other people thinking that's a 900W PSU is due to the following:


40% to 60% of 800W is different from 40% to 60% of 900W. As such, I want to make very clearly that's a 800W PSU so that there's a lesser chance of anyway getting a louder, shorter lived, and hotter PSU.

That ABS psu will still deliver 450W (50%) @ 90% efficiency. So it should live a long and prosperous life. It's only at 100% load where there could be trouble, but I don't expect the op or the avg user to ever experience it unless he/she doesn't mind the power bill.
 
This thread is going in circles. There's enough info here for the OP and other future potential PSU buyers to make up their minds.
 
This thread is going in circles. There's enough info here for the OP and other future potential PSU buyers to make up their minds.

Yes it has. I'm just giving the op another option, whether the OP takes it or not is up to he/she. Obviously I do not expect to op to have a 900W system in his home, at least I hope not.
 
OMG....This thread went so far only on the PSU selection of x650 vs ABS vs Corsair.
Yea i need power Efficient & it may true that i may not able to use it on full load.
Does Eyefinity Consume Less Power So i would Consider a Low Power Consumption Eyefinity with a Good Quality and Reasonable Performance.

Thanks.
It Would be best to Get an Eyefinity....Since the Budget is well Above $3k.
 
Good gravy... why are you considering Eyefinity? Are you going to run three monitors while gaming? Are you going to buy a third monitor?

Which games are you going to play? At which level of graphics quality? Are you going to max out on AA/AF as well?

What do you consider "reasonable performance"?
 
OMG Got Loaded with Question on Eyefinity...
I asked about Eyefinity coz it looks awesome or Shall i Go With a 30" Dell
 
Which would you prefer: three 19" monitors running a "unified" 3840x1024 resolution or one 30" monitor at a 2560x1600 resolution?

And how about answering the rest of my questions? They can't all be confusing... are they?
 
if i can get an eyecandy..19 inch is ok..But it will be Good to Get 3 x Full HD.
No They r nt cnfsing.
 
Thanks...............
Bro


i have decided Upon a Config:-

CPU:- AMD Phenom II X4 905e 65W
Mobo:- ASUS M4A89GTD PRO
GPU:- 2 x 5670
Ram:- 8GB DD3 1600
HDD:- 1 Ocz Z-drive 512Gb + 4TB WD External
Monitor:- Acer 120hz
PSU:- Seasonic X650 650W Gold Certified PSU
Case:- CM 690 II Advanced
Speakers:- Razer mako
Headphone:- Steelseries Siberia v2
Mice:- Microsoft Intelli Mouse 3.0
Mousepad:- Razer mantis
keyBoard:- Saitek Ecllipse III or Steelseries 7G / Merc Stealth


A GOOOD UPS

Excellent choices there.. Especially in the Power Supply. I have never noticed it before, but I Dig the Full Modular so you get exactly what you want & nothing more.

As far as Eyefinity goes the cards as ordered are capable, Its just a matter of to what resolutions. If your running 3x 19" I imagine they would do fine, but not "awesome" Pushing the 1 30" would be a whole lot less juice for them to have to squeeze, But if you dont already have the 30" in question check out the Hanns-G 28" (27.5) on newegg.. Its purpose built as a PC monitor, not a TV LCD.. & It doesn't carry near the price tag as a good 30" PC LCD normally would.
 
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