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New Computer Build - Please Advise

change power supply to corsair 650tx or 620 hx , hdd to wd se16 320 gb or 640 gb single platter , also a better cooling case coolermaster cm690 .
 
nah , use 2 if u want . but y i suggested that hd was that they r the fastest hard drives on the market today alongwith samsung spinpoint f1. i saw a review on techreport . sorry dont have the link . try finding on google.

about the case, i suggested that coz it has gr8 cooling with 7 fans . buying it shortly . concerns about psu cables reaching, i cant say. someone else will have to answer this.
 
Forget the Corsair PSU. Nothing against them, but "PC Power and Cooling" PSU's are just so much better for only a few dollars more. Well.... actually about $50 more, but you will not regret it, and you will NEVER have a PSU issue It will easily handle SLI, and if you plan on more upgrades in the future you definitely want more then what the corsair can bring to the table. About $160 at newegg and you will NEVER have a PSU related issue. The only other advice I can give will also save you some headaches down the road. Get better RAM. Heres where you should be getting the Corsair brand. Granted you will spend more money for my recommendations, but you will getting a higher quality product in both cases. When I used to build systems for people I would let them know upfront there were some things I would not skimp on. PSU or RAM problems can manifest themselves in so many different ways that troubleshooting them can be a royal pain. By spending a little more at the onset you avoid those issues altogether. And that meant less problems for me down the road, because once you build a pc for someone, you are their tech support for life.


Easy Duzit
 
A-Data RAM is fine, and Corsair PSUs are more than fine (albeit usually overpriced at Newegg). Why waste money on something that's barely an upgrade, if it even is one at all? It's not like a 650TX can't handle 8800GT SLI and then some. If for some reason you need more, there's the 750TX available as well.

DDR2-800 is perfect for the 3.2GHz OP is planning on, and value/OEM crap aside, bad RAM is bad RAM due to natural defect rates/shoddy ICs (hello there new Crucial Ballistix) rather than "cheap brands."
 
mgulbran said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703005

What do you think of that PSU?
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That'll work .
For the same price as your 1st pick, you are definitely much better of with the PC Power and Cooling 610. You can put a PC P&C unit up against any other PSU with the same rating and the PC P&C unit will likely stand head and shoulders above the competition in a real world test under extreme loads and elevated temperatures (like inside your pc case).

As far as the RAM goes I guess the A-Data is fine as long as you have no intention of overclocking. Hmm...just scrolled back and see that you do plan to overclock. Do NOT Get Cheap RAM with the intention of overclocking or you're asking for headaches. No disrespect to Trombe, but anyone with a lot of experience building high end/gaming systems will tell you same thing. Especially when overclocking is involved. And now that RAM is so cheap, there is no better time to get high quality memory at a very fair price. You will never regret having better components in your pc.


Easy
 
Easy Duzit said:
That'll work .
For the same price as your 1st pick, you are definitely much better of with the PC Power and Cooling 610.
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I disagree. The Silencer 610 has 49A on the +12V rail while the 650TX has 52A on the +12V rail. In addition, both PSUs are made by Seasonic and are 80Plus efficient. However, the Silencer 610 is rated at an operating temperature of 40C while the 650TX is rated at 50C. As you have pointed out in a way, the hotter a PSU gets, the less power it can safely and reliably offer. So not only does the 650TX offer more power than the Silencer 610, it does so at a higher temperature.

So the 650TX is the better choice.

@ mgulbran
Why are you getting 8GB of RAM? RAM is cheap and all but still, bit of a waste if you don't do a lot of work with media editing/rendering, virtualization, etc.

If you're planning to OC that E8400 past 3.6Ghz or so, go with this RAM instead:
G.SKILL F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ 2 x 2GB DDR2 1000 RAM - $100

Some math for you:
Stated FSB/4 = Actual FSB
Multiplier x Actual FSB = CPU Speed
2 x Actual FSB = RAM Speed

E8400:
Multi x Actual FSB, RAM Speed = Clock Speed
9 x 333Mhz, DDR2 667 RAM = 3.0Ghz <== Stock Speeds
9 x 400Mhz, DDR2 800 RAM = 3.6Ghz <== Easy OC
9 x 450Mhz, DDR2 900 RAM = 4.0Ghz <== Good OC
9 x 500Mhz, DDR2 1000 RAM = 4.5Ghz <== Excellent OC
 
You can disagree all you want Danny Bui. But I stand by everything I've said. While Corsair puts out a decent PSU, PC P&C is simply outstanding, and they have also been in the PSU business much longer then Corsair, who basically came on the market with PSU's in 05 or 06. And I'm less concerned with the paper specs since real world application is what truly matters and that is where PC P&C units dominate. They also have a long term proven track record which Corsair can't match since they haven't been in the PSU biz for even 5 years yet. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not slamming Corsair at all, they make quality stuff, especially their RAM. And their psu reviews do get high marks. Honestly I wouldn't mind having either one in my pc, but given a choice, I would opt for PC power and cooling every time.
Also, the corsair 650w has only 22 or 23 reviews on newegg, but 18% give it a 1 rating (lowest score possible). Now I know thats only a small sample, but it is what it is. And the PC P&C unit has only 4% give it low ratings, out of well over 200 reviews. Now most of those low ratings were from DOA units for both companies, but I'll take a low 4% out of 200+ vs 18% out of 23, any day of the week.

On another note re this PSU debate. There's a bunch of PC magazines out there, but Maximum PC is clearly one of the best. If for no other reason then their blunt and honest reviews. Unlike most pc rags which rarely if ever slam a product they review, Maximum pc has no problem letting us know which products are crap. And because their advertising dept and their editorials dept are two separate entities to avoid any conflict of interest, you will sometimes see an ad for a product, and then on the very next page, a review of the same product which slams it hard. This says quite a bit about their journalistic integrity and because of it, their reviews are the most honest I've ever seen. Now I don't trust any one source blindly. I do my research and recommend others do the same, but I regard them as a valuable source of product info. And each year when they build their dream machine from the most desirable computer parts available, with money being no object, the psu is always a PC P&C unit.

I've also put these units in a fair amount of pc's and never had a psu problem with any of them.
Now, I won't be debating this anymore since everyone has their own opinion, but fwiw, you've heard my two cents.

This post has been brought to you by hardforum.com, but does not in any way reflect their opinion. :D

Easy :)


Edit - Just an fyi. OCZ recently bought out PC P&C but their quality is still as good as it ever was.
 
Easy Duzit said:
Also, the corsair 650w has only 22 or 23 reviews on newegg, but 18% give it a 1 rating (lowest score possible). Now I know thats only a small sample, but it is what it is. And the PC P&C unit has only 4% give it low ratings, out of well over 200 reviews. Now most of those low ratings were from DOA units for both companies, but I'll take a low 4% out of 200+ vs 18% out of 23, any day of the week.
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Not to endorse one PSU over the other there (they're both excellent power supplies), but that's a silly way to compare PSU's. Probably the only reason the 650TX has so few ratings is that most NewEgg shoppers prefer modular, and get the 620HX in droves instead. 88% give that one a 5, and a mere 2% give it a 1, out of 334 ratings (more than the PCP&P!). So therefore the 620HX is superior to the PCP&P, right?

As for Maximum PC, they're a good place to start research, but I'd never stop there. They don't have nearly as in-depth a system of analysis of PSU's as jonnyGURU or our very own [H]ard|OCP. Hardware Canucks and Hardware Secrets tend also to be very good for power supply reviews, though the latter can be a bit too technical for most readers. Read the professional reviews (and I don't mean in dead-tree format) and decide for yourself.
 
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