New Computer Build, Massive Problems

Toronado97

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Let me preface this by saying I've been lurking on these boards for several years now, and this community seems to be by and large the most knowledgeable forum community on the web in regards to computer hardware.

That being said, I've had nothing but problems with a new build I just put together. I recently purchased an E5200 C2D, an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, a Gigabyte P45-UD3R, 2 x 2 GB G.Skill DDR 2 800 RAM, and a WD 640 GB Caviar Black (sata). Parts being reused from my old build are a PNY Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB, the case which is some random generic, a Samsung Lightscribe DVD Drive, and a WD 320 GB 7200 RPM IDE HD. Also, an Ultra X-Finity 550 Watt PSU.

I put the new build together a couple of weeks ago, turned it on, and the computer just beeped at me rapidly for about 10 seconds, and then would reboot. It would loop doing this forever unless the PSU was turned off. After some tinkering, I figured out that if I put RAM in slots 1,3 instead of 2,4, the computer would no longer beep, but would still reboot loop. I then discovered that if I put RAM in only slot 1, it would go right into Windows. I tried my new G.Skill RAM, my old G.Skill RAM (2 x 1 GB DDR2 800) and also a new set of Corsair XMS 2 x 2 GB DDR2800 I purchased from Fry's just for troubleshooting, and the problem would duplicate itself no matter what. I RMA'd the board.

Purchased a Gigabyte P45-UD3P from Fry's, took it home, installed it, and it booted up like a champ. YAY! Problem was, every time I played a game (fresh XP 32 bit install), the computer would hang. Sound stutter, frozen screen, total hard lock. Sometimes it would happen 3 hours into gaming, sometimes 10 minutes. Sometimes at a menu screen, others while in the actual game. I tried several nVidia drivers from 178 to the latest version, I tried updating the chipset drivers, nothing worked. GPU temps never get above 75 degrees, CPU temps never above 60. I put the motherboard on stock settings, still no help. In desperation I decided I'd switch the RAM out and try my old RAM. Well, I put the new RAM in, turned the computer on, and my old friend the rapid beep and reboot loop came back. I am now no longer able to boot the computer with any RAM in a slot other than 1, same exact problem as the old board. I took the E5200 out, and put in the old E6400 in desperation to see if anything changed, and it still won't boot. I cleared the CMOS and removed the battery to the mobo, and the damn thing booted up fine, then I turned it off, turned it back on, and it started the reboot loop again. Kept 1 RAM in slot 1, tried gaming with the E6400 and 1 stick of RAM, and the computer still crashed while gaming.

I've done 24 hours of Prime95 Small FFT, I've done 25 passes of Intel Burn Test with no stability issues (all strings matching), I've done 24 hours of memtest386 with no errors. The damn computer says it's stable, until I play a game on it and it goes to hell. The GPU works fine in another computer, and it worked fine in my old computer. This computer should actually be less power dependant than my old one, so I really don't feel like the PSU could be an issue, although it had crossed my mind. Obviously this motherboard is toast, but can I really be unlucky enough to have the same problem show up twice in a row on two motherboards? Help me HardOCP, you guys are literally my only hope. I have no idea where to go from here. HDTune shows no errors on my HD's, I've done Windows reinstall just to double check, drivers seem fine. I'm literally at my wits end here.

Sorry for the uber long read, but it's a lot of information to catch you up on. Any help at would be greatly appreciated.
 
Form what you've told us, my guess (at this point) is that the power supply cannot handle the load from the computer. If you can, switch out the power supplies (or, buy a new one, like the BFG LS-550) and see if that fixes the problem.

Also, which monitor/resolution are you using?
 
I'm using a Dell 2007 WFP @ 1680 x 1050 resolution tiraides. About the PSU, why would it be an issue now, and not in the old computer? I was under the impression that the E6xxx series was a more power hungry CPU than the newer Wolfdales, and I've even tried pulling everything out of the power loop except the boot drive, mobo/cpu/GPU and it still happens.

Not sure what a bench test is lt_shiro unless you mean pulling the works out of the case, which isn't an option as I live with 5 cats. :p
 
I'm using a Dell 2007 WFP @ 1680 x 1050 resolution tiraides. About the PSU, why would it be an issue now, and not in the old computer? I was under the impression that the E6xxx series was a more power hungry CPU than the newer Wolfdales, and I've even tried pulling everything out of the power loop except the boot drive, mobo/cpu/GPU and it still happens.

Not sure what a bench test is lt_shiro unless you mean pulling the works out of the case, which isn't an option as I live with 5 cats. :p

That is what a bench test is and it usually helps a lot when it comes to troubleshooting a PC.

What were the specs of your old PC?

Also, since your PSU is of low quality, what may have happened was that the PSU was slowly dying or decreasing in terms of power capability after being with your old system for so long. So now it can barely power your new rig. So try another PSU. That's the one of two items you haven't swapped so far (the other item being the case)
 
Old PC:

Apevia case
Ultra X-Finity 550 Watt ( I should point out that this is an item that is 2 years old, not that ancient)
Gigabyte P965 S3
Intel C2D E6400
Stock CPU Cooler
2 x 1 GB G.Skill DDR 2 800
WD 320 GB IDE HD
Maxtor 160 GB SATA HD
PNY Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB
Samsung DVD Burner with Lightscribe (IDE)
Logitech G7 mouse
Logitech G15 keyboard

I think that covers it. The entire reason I upgraded was because of system issues in the old PC. I did a reformat, and the Maxtor HD kept blue screening on Windows install, so I yanked it and it went on fine to the WD drive. However, after the reformat, my WoW performance had dropped from 60ish FPS to like 15-20 using all the same components and newest drivers etc. Also computer was extremely sluggish in any type of file access situation, deleting files, populating folders, transferring files etc. The HD itself checked out perfectly in HD tune so I assumed it was a motherboard problem. The new build alleviated all of the performance issues, but I have the new issue of locking up while playing games.

New parts going in are:
Gigabyte P45-UD3P
Intel C2D E5200
2 x 2 GB G.skill DDR2 800
WD 640 GB AAKL Caviar Black

Honestly I'd thought about the PSU being a culprit for a while, but at the time I purchased it the reviews for it were pretty decent for the price I paid. Up to that point I'd always used the super awesome case PSU's, so it was a significant upgrade. I do have a friend that has an Antec Earthwatts 550 Watt PSU that I could probably borrow, the question is, is this PSU frying motherboards, or would swapping out the PSU fix the problem entirely? It might fix the problem but still exhibit the same symptoms if this mobo has been fried, and I wouldn't really know the different. I'm also running out of time to RMA which is why I'm pressing so hard to track down the problem. I feel like I have definately removed RAM and CPU from the equation though, and the HD's have nothing to do with the POST process, so really all that's left is the motherboard itself being flaky, or the PSU.
 
Did you pay like $35 for that PSU or something? Thats the max I would've paid for such a low quality PSU. Also there is no such thing as a Earthwatts 550W. Did you mean Earthwatts 500W? There is a chance that that PSU already damaged the mobo. But try another PSU nonetheless.
 
Yeah his is an Earthwatts 500, and at the time I purchased the Ultra X-Finity it carried a pretty good review at jonnyguru.com (the 600 watt variety), otherwise I wouldn't have spent the money on it at all.

Any suggestions for a cost effective PSU? Obviously the Corsair 650 is a good choice, but I'm definitely on a limited budget right now, so any cost savings would be helpful.
 
Yeah his is an Earthwatts 500, and at the time I purchased the Ultra X-Finity it carried a pretty good review at jonnyguru.com (the 600 watt variety), otherwise I wouldn't have spent the money on it at all.

Any suggestions for a cost effective PSU? Obviously the Corsair 650 is a good choice, but I'm definitely on a limited budget right now, so any cost savings would be helpful.

BFG LS-550 from buy.com for $67. It's also on Newegg for $80 if you need to stick with Newegg.
 
How does that BFG compare to the Corsair 650 TX? The Corsair is a little more up front but has a nice rebate.
 
The Corsair TX650 is generally of better quality than the BFG LS-550, but they're both good choices.

I recommend ignoring the rebate for now, as it does nothing to reduce the cost that you'd have to pay at checkout. Price-wise, the LS-550 is still lower than the TX650.
 
So general consensus is the PSU is effing everything else up?

Speedfan is showing:

3.39 on the 3.3 V Rail
5.19 on the 5V Rail
2.69 (lolwut?) on the 12V Rail. I'm assuming that must be an error.
 
So general consensus is the PSU is effing everything else up?

Speedfan is showing:

3.39 on the 3.3 V Rail
5.19 on the 5V Rail
2.69 (lolwut?) on the 12V Rail. I'm assuming that must be an error.

Ignore any and all software reading of PSU voltages. They are often highly inaccurate. You need a digital multi-meter to get an accurate reading of voltages:
http://www.bfgpower.com/troubleshooting.html#DMM

I think it's the PSU. You've already swapped out the RAM, hard drive, mobo, CPU, .....wait you didn't swap out the video card did you? Try another GPU in your system if you can.
 
I've used the video card in a different computer with no problems whatsoever, and it also worked flawlessly in the old PC. Don't have a spare GPU laying around to test with but I'm reasonably certain it isn't a video card problem.
 
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