New build, MoBo help??

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So I'm building a new rig and it's on a very tight budget. Working basically around the intel retail edge pack. In case you're not sure, the mobo is the Intel® Desktop Board DG33TL Media Series. I was wondering if I should just hang onto that board for a while until I can afford the upgrade. I don't plan on doing any OC'ing, at least atm. Also it seems to have all my basic needs. So should I keep it, or should I try to make some money off of it and Vista (don't need os) and try to buy a dif one?
 
Well, the best thing about these Core2 chips is their overclocking potential without sacrificing stability/reliability. These chips pack major headroom! Many people are seeing OC's of 1Ghz, stable! So, if you'd like to take advantage of that and tap its potential, you're going to need a better board.
 
I definitely understand those advantages, but atm I don't have much experience with OC and affording another board would be very difficult for me, but it is doable. I don't really plan on OC til at least a few months down the road. Unless it's especially worth it out of the box?
 
Whether a 20% performance boost, on top of the obvious boost from simply upgrading, is worth it or not is entirely up to you. If it takes too much of your time, with time and effort being of high value to you, and you don't really need the extra boost, then no, it wouldn't be worth it.

What are you upgrading from?
 
I'm not home right now, but it's an emachine Tsomething model. This is my first real build. I have a 3300+, a MoBo that idk know, x200 integrated (myx800 went poof :(), 1 gb factory ram...


I'll post whatever else I can find once I get home.

But basically, this is a major upgrade for me, I'm waiting on the new vid cards supposedly coming out in November as well.
 
Well what are you planning to do with this new PC?
 
Basically used for gaming. My current specs are on my xfire profile.


xfire.com/profile/chuugokujin/

Manufacturer:
EMACHINES
Processor:
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.4GHz
Memory:
894MB RAM
Hard Drive:
280 GB Total
Video Card:
MSI RADEON XPRESS 200 Series
Monitor:
Samsung 19" LCD
Sound Card:
Realtek AC97 Audio
Speakers/Headphones:
Keyboard:
USB Root Hub
Mouse:
USB Root Hub
Mouse Surface:
Operating System:
Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
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I'd consider the upgrade itself a performance boost enough if its difficult to get a better board, depending on what you use the system for. What do you use the system for? How much are you saving with the Intel Retail Edge?
 
It's just gonna be used for gaming basically. I don't do video editing or anything professional grade with it. Just gaming basically and everyday tasks (browsing, chatting, etc). And I'm not really saving based on my budget. I based my whole rig around the pack itself, but retail vs pack wise. Savings can total around 800$ or so I think. But yeah, getting a new board atm would be really difficult for me, but still possible if it seems necessary for a lot better performance. In case you're unfamiliar with the pack, it comes with the q6700 this year. I'm probably gonna reload xp pro, but if I do vista, it will probably be ultimate. I have the os already.
 
I just googled it... so you're getting the premium bundle. Heh, thats some considerable savings. I say stick with the Mobo if its that difficult.

But just so you know .... a new mobo isn't that expensive. The Abit IP35-E is only $70AR; which is good if you don't need raid/firewire/legacy ports. If you do need legacy ports, the DS3L is only $95. If you need RAID, the DS3R is good ($130). If you need firewire, the P5K. For both raid and firewire, the IP35 is $125 - $25MIR right now. If you need onboard video/raid/firewire/etc, go with the Gigabyte G33M-DS2R for $135. These can all OC that Q6700 well.

Either way, with a new mobo to OC or the Intel G33, you'll be getting some good performance. What are the other parts you decided on?
 
hmm... so for I got:

Antec P182se
Antec NeoHE 550w (both together in fry's bundle)
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220$

2gb OCZ reaper
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50$ AR

I'm keeping the hdd from my old computer and I'm gonna add another 80gb for apps/os, but I'm not sure yet, my brother says he comes by a lot of extra parts at his work and can get me a new hdd for free, so I'll see how that pans out.

Also, the intel pack basically.
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250$ give or take

Need some advice on a DVD burner too, I was thinking either of these


SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S203B - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151153

LG 20X DVD±R Super Multi DVD Burner Black ATAPI / E-IDE Model GSA-H55NK - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136117

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30 give or take a few $

And either the new 88gt or the ati 2950/3800 (whatever they decide to call it), depending on how they perform when they're released.
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200-300 (hopefully)


Sooo..... lookin' at about 850ish$. Which is right in my price range.

About the MoBo situation, I'm running tight on cash, aftrer everything I'm looking to about 10-20$ left over if even that much. I could probably make some profit off the intel board and the vista it comes with though. So, is it worth it for me to go for a new board and go for the OC or wait a few months/1 year, save up my funds and OC when it starts to slow down or I feel like I could use some more performance?
 
If you want a Rock Solid motherboard, i would check into the Abit IP35 Pro, I have one with my new build (see sig) I am loving it, Easy to OS, very nice board. I got a Q6600 running at 3.2
 
Ah... both good advice. Thanks for your help. And also, out of curiosity, what do you think of the other stuff I picked out?
 
You paid too much for the case/psu, but o wellz. Either burner will work fine. Either card should be fine, too. Are you keeping the 19" monitor? If so, all you really need is the 8800GTS 320MB. Though, if you want it to last longer, get one of the better cards comin out later instead.
 
enginurd said:
You paid too much for the case/psu, but o wellz.
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I don't really understand. This seems to be the best deal I could've found anywhere. The psu itself retails for 100$+ and the p182se retails for 220. I don't see how I paid too much. And yeah, I am waiting for the new cards to come out.
 
I just think they're overpriced for what you get. The P182 is overpriced as it is, but if you like it, then I guess you gotta pay for those looks. The P180 has been updated with the same wire management niceties of the P182, so you're paying for the mirror finish. I'd rather put that money towards something else instead. I got the P180B from Fry's for $40AR. My friend got his for $80AR. The Antec NeoHE 550W was on sale for $50AR as well. Therefore, in my opinion, you paid too much for those two parts. But like I said, you already have them, so don't worry about it.
 
Oh well, I was really looking for a while and I couldn't find a really good deal on the p180b or the p182. I only went with the mirrored finish because that was the best deal I could find. I preferred the p182 over the p180 though and for 220 w/ psu it was cheaper than I could have gotten it retail. Also, when I bought it I guess the deal for the psu ended. Wish I knew abotthe 50$ AR though, could've saved a bit of cash.
 
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