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New build for Work.

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Coastal

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I am looking at building my first computer for both work and light gaming.

1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing? etc
Agricultural related GIS management, flight simulator, light to mid gaming, Web.

2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?

750 not including the monitor
3) Which country do you live in? If the U.S, please tell us the state and city if possible.


Elizabeth City, North Carolina, United States

4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. The word "Everything" is not a valid answer. Please list out all the parts you'll need.
CPU, Motherboard, Video Card, Ram, SSD, HHD, Monitor, Case, Power,

5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing? Please be especially specific about the power supply. List make and model.

NONE

6) Will you be overclocking?
Possibly light
7) What is the max resolution of your monitor? What size is it?

Looking for 1080P 22-24". Also 47" LED TV for presentations.

8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?

This Week

9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? USB 3.0? SATA 6Gb/s? eSATA? Onboard video (as a backup or main GPU)? UEFI? etc.

Raid, USB 3, Upgradable.

10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license? If so, what OS? Is it 32bit or 64bit?

No, Looking for windows 8.1




Build so far.


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2HW9N

Link Updated


Or how does this system look.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220446
 
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Your parts list is empty.

Is the cost of the OS part of that $750 budget?
 
Sorry. The link is updated.

The operating system is part of the budget. Any cheaper/ decent graphic cards?
 
Coastal said:
Any cheaper/ decent graphic cards?
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That HD 7790 is probably the cheapest card I'd recommend for that high of a resolution if you plan on doing any sort of 3D gaming.

As for your mobo and CPU choices, they don't quite match up: If you want to overclock, you'll need a motherboard with the Z87 chipset, not the H87 chipset. If you don't plan on overclocking, you can save $20 to $40 by going with the Core i5 4570. Considering your budget, I would forget about overclocking.

RAM wise, I would go with this slightly cheaper and faster RAM instead:
$70 - Kingston HyperX Blu KHX1600C10D3B1/8G 8GB DDR3 1600 RAM

Why Windows 8.1 Pro?

As for that Asus PC, it's pretty much going to suck for gaming and any sort of 3D work (assuming that GIS still involves a bit of 3D viewing).
 
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Ok. Thanks for the help.

Would I really notice the .2 ghz between the 4570 and the 4670k? Also, would it still be wise to go with the Z87 over the H87 for the 4570K. I see a lot of the factory built computers are using the H81 chipset. How does that compare with the H87 or Z87

My budget is just a rough budget. I dont mind spending a little extra for something better, as I want this build to last a while.

Also, here is a link to one of my GIS software. http://www.agleader.com/solutions/planning/

No reason I guess for the windows pro other than I have it on my laptop Win 7. I probably only need regular.
 
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Coastal said:
Would I really notice the .2 ghz between the 4570 and the 4670k?
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Nope.The 4670K is only worth it if you plan on overclocking.
Coastal said:
Also, would it still be wise to go with the Z87 over the H87 for the 4570K.
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There's no such thing as a 4570K. If you're talking about the 4570, it doesn't matter. Just go with the motherboard that has the features and reliability you want.
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I see a lot of the factory built computers are using the H81 chipset. How does that compare with the H87 or Z87
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The H81 lacks RAID, only has two RAM slots, and some SATA ports IIRC. The H81 is the budget chipset and therefore shows up in a lot of low-end motherboards. I really wouldn't recommend the H81 since the two RAM slots might hurt you in the long-run.

Yeah you'll be fine with the regular Windows 8.1 since it still supports more than 16GB of RAM.
 
Anyone have any inputs on Powerspec Computers. Mircocenter's chat referred me to the 830 model when I was browsing for parts. I like the front facing USB 3, ports. Any idea on how to get those on a custom build?

Or am I still better off, building my own?
 
Coastal said:
Anyone have any inputs on Powerspec Computers. Mircocenter's chat referred me to the 830 model when I was browsing for parts. I like the front facing USB 3, ports. Any idea on how to get those on a custom build?

Or am I still better off, building my own?
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Never heard of them. Sounds like a generic PC builder though. They don't mention what brand or model PSU they're using and considering that they're relatively unknown, I would not recommend buying. Especially since the 830 includes a 4670K CPU combined with a H87. Stupid combination.

As for the front USB 3.0 ports, a lot of cases these days have that. In fact,the Source 220 has the USB 3.0 right there in the front.
 
Go with a ddr3 1600 dual channel memory 2x4 GB kit. This will improve performance for the same price. Use the motherboard's fake raid for backups. The cheapest raid backup, raid 1, requires two hard drives. I doubled your storage for the same price. The GTX 650 Ti is roughly equivalent to the 7790 for less. Nvidia has better drivers than AMD.
Here's what I put together.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/emmanon/saved/3CLT
 
If I am using the 4570 i5 is there any advantage to use the z87 pro over the h87 pro chipset?
 
Coastal said:
If I am using the 4570 i5 is there any advantage to use the z87 pro over the h87 pro chipset?
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You gain some flexibility in PCI configuration and power regulation, neither of which will make much difference with the build you are considering.

If you select a H87 board just make sure it has all the additional features that you want. Some manufacturers cut back on these boards to hit a specific price point.

Memory wise I would recommend 2 x 8 gb, it will make a noticeable difference, you will not regret it. 2 x 4 gb gains you very little over 1 x 8 gb in the real world and severely limits your upgrade path.
 
If you want to save a little money and are happy with the reduced connectivity options (less fan headers and no display port) then go with the Plus but there is limited user feed back on this board.

If you think you need the to spend the money for the Pro then you would actually be better off going with the Asus Z87-A.
 
Ok. I think I settled on the Z87. How is the Z87 Pro? Buy the time I do the Z87-a and then the wifi card there isn't much difference then the Z87 pro.
 
Coastal said:
Ok. I think I settled on the Z87. How is the Z87 Pro? Buy the time I do the Z87-a and then the wifi card there isn't much difference then the Z87 pro.
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I'd do a seperate Z87-A plus wifi card since more than likely you'll get a better wifi card than the one included with the Z87-Pro.
 
What are the final specs you settled on? Have you started building your new box yet?
 
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