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New build, CPU/Chipset Poll!

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EzeroMobile50K

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Heyo, quick poll guys. If you were throwing together a new gaming/multimedia design rig right now, which would you go with. i7 ivy, or i7 haswell.

Keep in mind some parts will be imported: evga gtx 670 ftw, g.skill 8gb(2x4gb) 1600 8-8-8-24 1.5v, seasonic 850w gold cert psu.

My recent experience with 4670k / ga-z87x-ud4h has kind of put me off with haswell, but I need to look into the matter a little more. Having a rough time getting even average overclocks out of haswell. That's taking into account that lower clocks on haswell perform better clock:clock with previous gens. Personally I really dislike the bios on the ud4h. I get much more finished/polished feel from the asus boards. The hardware is definitely nice on the gigabyte though, and can't beat the price. Which makes this so tough.

What are your opinions? Keep in mind the value of bang per buck.

I'm considering either i7 ivy + z77 pro, or i5/i7 haswell + z87 pro, just as a starting point. What would you guys do? I would like to at least achieve 4.2-4.4ghz with haswell, and 4.4-4.5 with ivy, without having to scoop an $80 air cooler, or an h100i, and have reasonable temps. Ambients here in so cal are pretty high, but AC usually keeps things around 78-82
 
Any particular reasons why? Any of the new features on the new chipset really stand out? What motherboard would you guys go with? I'd love to use a maximus VI extreme or hero, but they're obviously budget breakers that don't really offer a whole lot more than peace of mind and neat features.

My experience with the ud4h has really turned me off to gigabyte.

Also where should I look to find someone experienced with pushing haswell pretty hard on air cooling. I need some 1 on 1 guidance tinkering with it. Things seem a lot more complicated than when I did sandybridge.
 
IMHO the chipset is the best reason to go with Haswell. It doesn't offer much in terms of higher CPU performance compared to Ivy Bridge, but the chipsets have some nice upgrades. The big ones are more USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gbit ports. I don't find the extra USB3 a big deal, but I would like more SATA 6Gbit ports. I have a habit of collecting disks, and only being able to run 2 SSDs at full speed without adding a SAS or SATA card seems a bit cramped.

That said, I'd want to wait until the IB-E launch... need slots for Infiniband + SLI & like being able to install 64GB ram. That's my use case though, and I wouldn't recommend it for most people.
 
zandor said:
IMHO the chipset is the best reason to go with Haswell. It doesn't offer much in terms of higher CPU performance compared to Ivy Bridge, but the chipsets have some nice upgrades. The big ones are more USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gbit ports. I don't find the extra USB3 a big deal, but I would like more SATA 6Gbit ports. I have a habit of collecting disks, and only being able to run 2 SSDs at full speed without adding a SAS or SATA card seems a bit cramped.

That said, I'd want to wait until the IB-E launch... need slots for Infiniband + SLI & like being able to install 64GB ram. That's my use case though, and I wouldn't recommend it for most people.
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As it is I barely have use for the usb 3.0's that I have now, had to buy a 3.0 thumb drive to make use of them, have a keyboard that uses 3.0 but that's only because it has a passthrough 3.0 port. 2 sata 6gb/s IS a little cramped I agree, 4 would be plenty for me, and they have no issues with backward compatibility so the more the better I suppose. $10-15 difference between Ivy and haswell for i5, and about $30 difference between i7s.

I probably should go for the i5, it's all most people ever need. But I can't help but feel like, Ahh the best was just a few bucks away, a few being like $80. What would you guys do? :>
 
EzeroMobile50K said:
Any particular reasons why? Any of the new features on the new chipset really stand out?
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In addition to what zandor said, in the case of Asus mobos, their UEFI implementations for their socket LGA 1150 motherbaord are actually better than their LGA 1155 UEFI implementations. In other words, their Haswell UEFI is easier and faster than their IB UEFI.

EzeroMobile50K said:
What motherboard would you guys go with? I'd love to use a maximus VI extreme or hero, but they're obviously budget breakers that don't really offer a whole lot more than peace of mind and neat features.
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Probably the Asus Z87-A or Z87-Pro motherboards. Although the MSI Z87-GD65 motherboard is very solid motherboard as well:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013...ing_lga_1150_motherboard_review/#.UgW1ppJiRjs
EzeroMobile50K said:
Also where should I look to find someone experienced with pushing haswell pretty hard on air cooling. I need some 1 on 1 guidance tinkering with it. Things seem a lot more complicated than when I did sandybridge.
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Quite a few overclockers over in the Motherboard, Intel CPU, and Overclocking subforum. Good luck with getting 1 on 1 guidance though.
EzeroMobile50K said:
I probably should go for the i5, it's all most people ever need. But I can't help but feel like, Ahh the best was just a few bucks away, a few being like $80. What would you guys do? :>
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Don't waste the extra money.
 
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