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Networking issues... need help

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I recently discovered that my computer was getting shitty connection to our Verizon Homefusion router through wifi so I decided to hardwire it to the router through the house.

I connected it and it had awesome speeds and what not, but I decided I wanted to be able to use wifi in my room for my xbox and cell phone and what not so I tried to hook a Cisco WRT160N V3 up using the same exact port on the wall and everything and then hook my computer to that using another ethernet cable. Nothing. It can connect to the router by wifi and by ethernet but the router is getting no internet connection. Hook the computer back up directly to the wall and boom here I am posting.

Not sure what the issue could be, obviously something with the router but I have restored it to factory defaults. Any help at all is greatly appreciated!
 
Disable DHCP on the Cisco and connect the cable to one of the LAN ports rather than the WAN.
 
Not sure exactly what I need to disable for that. I don't know much about networking, this is the only stuff I have found on DHCP, and when I select a different item and hit save settings it asks for different values in boxes.

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See where is says DHCP server, disabled is already checked. You are connecting both the cable from your wall and to your pc from the cisco lan side. In this scenario nothing should be connected to WAN.

Also make sure that IP address 192.168.1.1 is not conflicting with anything else. Go to your main router and see what it's DHCP range is, set the cisco to an IP outside of that range.

For example, if the other routers range is 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.100 set this new one to something like 192.168.1.150 and remember that address....
 
Okay, I tried that and it still didn't work. I found on the verizon router that the IP distribution range was 192.168.1.3-192.168.1.16 so I set the ip address to 192.168.1.17 on the cisco router. Nothing. Back hooked up to the wall on my desktop. I attempted to access the cisco router after putting 192.168.1.17 into a web browser and it worked a few times and I logged in then all of a sudden I can't access it anymore.

Any ideas
 
When you things all set up, Verizon router/modem > wall > Linksys router > computer.


What IP are you getting? Run an ipconfig. You might have to do an ipconfig /release then ipconfig /renew.

Sometimes you get stuck with that Microsoft default ip that can be a PITA to release and get a new IP from the DHCP server.
 
after running ipconfig on my desktop and laptop, this is what I get with the difference on my laptop being 192.168.1.102 for the IPv4 Address

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Also, I noticed that when I go to log into the verizon router I type 192.168.1.1 into a broswer but it pops it over to 192.168.1.254 and for the linksys it stays what I type in.
 
I tried hooking it back into the router setup as Liger88 stated and now I am getting a "Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address" of 169.254.79.31

Now another question I have.. is with the verizon broadband router, can I change the start/end IP Address from .17 and .254 to a smaller range to then set the linksys router's ip out of that range?

EDIT:

Now I have the laptop connected to the verizon router via wifi and when I log into it via the wifi it shows the start IP address as .3 and end as .16. Is this different because one is hooked up via wifi and the other via ethernet?
 
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Are you hitting "apply" on the router settings for both the Cisco and Verizon equipment when you changed the settings because the Wi-Fi addresses is indicating that it's still using the original settings (not the range shown in the images). The previous IP you mentioned when you did what I said seemed like the PC was still getting a DHCP address in the block for the Cisco gear.

None of this is making sense based off all that's been mentioned. Either the settings were not applied on either device when you changed them, or you're connecting the Verizon gear through the wall outlet to the WAN port on the Cisco router.

It should literally be as simple as disabling the DHCP server on the Cisco device, applying it, then plugging the switch port from the Verizon router through the wall to the Cisco device into the Cisco devices LAN ports (sometimes hard to tell which one it is) and that being that.
 
Liger88 said:
It should literally be as simple as disabling the DHCP server on the Cisco device, applying it, then plugging the switch port from the Verizon router through the wall to the Cisco device into the Cisco devices LAN ports (sometimes hard to tell which one it is) and that being that.
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Yes everytime I have hit apply. I have not changed any settings in the verizon router yet.

I am running the ethernet cable from the wall into the "Internet" port on the back of the router in my room then running ethernet cables out from the 1-4 ports into the computers.
 
Liger88 said:
What was the problem?
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I hooked the wall ethernet to the #1 Lan port and not the Internet port and it worked.. but.. something else happened. More info:

Verizon Homefusion, what I use, is really a clusterfuck of internet. The way it works is there is a canister on the outside of the house to receive the 4g signal from which then runs to the Verizon Router which has 4 ethernet ports. Apparently the homefusion router is setup to where you can not hook a 2nd router into it, according to verizon. They say that in order to hook 5 computers up you would have to basically buy another piece of equipment from there (shocker.) If you go into the settings of the router, the canister itself has a 13 ip range (.3-.16) that it uses for whatever, then the router itself has the rest of the ip range (.17-.252) to use for devices. Our network through the homefusion router was named "TNCAP69DB83" by default (this is relevant for later).

Pictures for reference regarding the IP addresses:
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THIS IS UNDER HBA SETTINGS
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THIS IS UNDER HBR SETTINGS


I forgot to mention that I switched over to a linksys WRT54GL router instead of the Cisco WRT160N V3.

I used this guide to setup the linksys router as an access point http://www.wikihow.com/Convert-Linksys-WRT54G-to-Be-an-Access-Point and it worked fine for 5 minutes until I went to setup a static ip for my laptop to host a minecraft server. I had changed the end ip address in the HBR settings to something like .150 and set the linksys router ip address to .175. Set the static ip for the laptop to .200 at which point I validated the changes and it came up with the error of the DHCP server was not enabled. At this point the laptop connected to "TNCAP69DB83 2" which could access the homefusion router but not the internet, still connected through the linksys router. Then all the computers started connecting to either "TNCAP69DB83 2" or "TNCAP69DB83 3" and could access the homefusion router but not the internet. Then everything went to shit with the verizon router.

After an hour on the phone with verizon tech support I got my internet back up and running using only the home fusion router. If you know what the deal is and how I could get it working properly that would be awesome, I shot you a PM as well.
 
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