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Well, after typing up a huge post, this stupid laptop clicked the link uptop, and I lost it all, here we go again.

My main laptop died, my desktop is older then most peoples cars (02 area). My laptop graphics card kicked the bucket, it flickers when I open the lid, but it smells a bit (burnt), and using HDMI/D-sub 15 doesnt do anything. Sound works, I can hear it load winjdows. Ill try and get it working to get stuff off it. But we will see. Its always overheated, and I think it finally just died.

) What will you be doing with this PC? Web Browsing, Excell invoicing, mild gaming (if I get time, 2nd boy born today), media storage (home videos etc)
2) What's your budget? Id like to keep it under 2k taxes in.
3) Where do you live? Alberta Canada
4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? Everything. I know its not a valid answer, but I dont see me resusing anything from my sig. Maybe a mouse, but even thats 8 years old. So yeah. All parts, Case, CPU, GPU, Mobo, cooler, PSU, Ram, Keyboard, Mouse, display, DVD, speakers (ill get some stuff locally, or move my Logitech Z-5500s down.
5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing? Nothing. Might reuse old lite-on CDRW to have 2 drives, and might use monitor for a bit till I can go an actually look at one. I like to see things like that for myself.
6) Will you be overclocking? Might a bit to benchmark, and for fun, but dont see me trying to run at 4ghz 24/7
7) What size monitor do you have and/or plan to have? Right now a 19 1280x1024, but will upgrade to something maybe 23ish
8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC? In a week or so, once everyone is settled in, and I get the office cleaned out from the construction garbage.
9) What features do you need in a motherboard? Id like it to have wifi (or can go with a card), sata3 for my SSD (if it needs it, or gains from it). After that nothing else really.
10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license? Laptop died, so ill xfer Win 7 Home Prem 64.

3 options id consider. Get a new gaming type laptop, and use it. New PC with some media centre capability (wouldnt mind letting it push movies over to TV from office), or go SFF cube PC, and might just have it in the living room. I do have a Latitude D630 (posting from) which is my work laptop, so dont need a laptop, might just run it for the wife to do facebook etc upstairs, or get her an Ipad2.

Id like it to be able to game someone reasonably. I dont see my playing a ton of games with the 2nd boy now here. But I wouldnt mind playing skyrim a bit, and maybe some BF3 etc. I dont need all the eye candy on, but I dont wanna buy something I cant play any games on at all. Frustrate me too much. Good settings, maybe not all the AA etc.

Id also like this quiet. I like clean looking cases, like the hush 2. No idea on SFF cases, so throw me some suggestions. I was thinking something like a 2500k, Big cooler, or H50 maybe, Hush 2, SSD with 1TB backup for the wifes home videos/pictures etc, wifi accessories (like my old Asus had), or a card. Was gonna go with P8P67 pro a while back, not sure I need that anymore, or if there is still issues with it. But I dont mind spending some cash on quality components, id rather that then save 200, and have it crap out on components in a year or so. Last desktop is still going after being built in 02, but pretty slow now a days.

Anyway, some help would be great guys. I wont be posting for a bit, so hope I answered all questions. Back to the hospital, just picking stuff up for the wife, and noticed laptop died when I tried to check email.

Thanks, Jason
 
mild gaming (if I get time, 2nd boy born today)
Congratualtions! Hope the wife and baby are doing ok!
Get a new gaming type laptop, and use it.
Unless you really need the mobility of a gaming type laptop, I'd recommend against this option.
New PC with some media centre capability (wouldnt mind letting it push movies over to TV from office),
Due to my laziness, this is the option I recommend.
or go SFF cube PC, and might just have it in the living room.
Personally too lazy to look up what quiet SFF cases are out there. Someone else can hopefully help you out here.
Id also like this quiet. I like clean looking cases, like the hush 2.
The Hush 2 AKA NZXT H2 case is a quiet case but it has really crappy cooling. As such, for a 1080P gaming system (23" monitors are usually 1080P nowadays), especially one meant for Skyrim and BF3, it's not the the best of choices. If you want a quiet gaming capable case, then I recommend these cases as they'll allow for both a quiet PC and excellent cooling for relatively high-end video cards:
$160 - Silverstone RV02B-W ATX case
$178 - Silverstone RV02B-EW ATX case
$230 - Silverstone FT02B ATX Case

Was gonna go with P8P67 pro a while back, not sure I need that anymore, or if there is still issues with it.
Still not that solid of a choice these days since it still has quite a bit of issues.
I was thinking something like a 2500k, Big cooler, or H50 maybe, Hush 2, SSD with 1TB backup for the wifes home videos/pictures etc, wifi accessories (like my old Asus had), or a card.
Prelim build (Copy and paste into the browser. Replace the ++++ with "NC IX" but without the space):
$238 - Intel Core i5-2500K CPU
$130 - MSI P67A-G45 Intel P67 ATX Motherboard
$61 - G.Skill Ripjaws F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333 RAM
$255 - eVGA GTX 560 TI 1GB PCI-E Video Card
$280 - Intel 510 Series SSDSC2MH120A2K5 2.5" 120GB SSD
$90 - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s Hard Drive
$78 - Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB SATA HDD
$145 - Corsair 750AX 750W Modular PSU
$26 - Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus HSF for LGA 1366 and LGA 1156
$24 - Asus PCE-N13 Wireless Adapter
$180 - Asus VH236H Black 23" LCD Monitor
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Total: $1507 CAD plus tax and shipping.

Notes:
- I recommend that you get some hands on time with mice and keyboards at your local computer hardware retailer as those tend to be of personal choice items. I.e what's best for me isn't the best for you when it comes to a mouse and keyboard

- I highly highly highly recommend that the you buy that PSU ASAP as that $145 is a sale's price. At $145, it's an extremely good deal for a high-end 750W modular PSU. If you happen to miss the $145 sale, then go for the regular Corsair 750HX 750W PSU for around $155

- I went with two hard drives for the following reasons: The WD 1TB drive is for any applications that may not fit onto the SSD or misc data that really don't need to be on a SSD (music, videos, etc). The 2TB drive is gonna be your main data drive.

- That Coolermaster HSF is actually quieter than the Corsair H50 since the H50's included water pump is actually quite noisy.

- If you still have some cash leftover after choosing the case, speakers, mouse, and keyboard and still want to spend up to $2000 CAD, then see if you can up the video card to the GTX 570.
 
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Thanks,

Baby boy #2, 8lbs 5oz, 21.5" long. 10 fingers 10 toes, so all good. Justh ome getting swing out of storage, and bouncy chair out, and the carseat in the wifes rig.

Thanks, I agree that mice and keyboards are a personal choice. Those are not a big deal. Monitors are also a bit of a big deal IMO, just to see how rich the colors are, but again, I think stores screw around with them like TVs, and set the most expensive ones up real nice, and they slowly get worse. I have seen some with color options turned down etc. After messing with them they looked really good. Though I have seen a lot of good comments on that asus monitor. Ill look into cases over the next few days as I get time. Thanks Danny
 
Also is there a reason not to go with something like a powercolor 6950 2gb and flash it for $50 more then the 560ti? Are they no longer flashable?

*meant to type 6950, not 5950.
 
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Also is there a reason not to go with something like a powercolor 5950 2gb and flash it for $50 more then the 560ti? Are they no longer flashable?

Well warranty and customer support would be one reason. Powercolor's warranty and customer support aren't as good as Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, or XFX. Not to mention that you need a reference HD 6950 2GB in order to have a chance at unlocking.

With that said, the higher performance and extra VRAM alone of the HD 6950 2GB is worth the extra $50 IMO. However, I did go with Nvidia since DICE games traditionally has better support for Nvidia cards in the beginning of the game's release.
 
Just putting it together to order, noticed the price is almost identical on another site, but for $100 more, I can get the Asrock Z68 Pro Gen3 (with ability to do PCI-E 3.0), think this is worth the upgrade at this point (i know i would need ivy down the road to get SSD performance, and a PCI-E 3.0 Videocard). Not thinking for me its really worth it
 
Two reason to not get that AsRock mobo:
1) PCI-E 3.0 isn't really needed unless you're running multiple GPUs and multiple true hardware RAID clients at the same time
2) AsRock only has a one year warranty on their motherboards compared to Asus, MSI, and Gigabyte have three year warranties.
 
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