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EchoMatrix

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I need to know what the average price range for a good reciever and sub is.

I got about want to spend around $300-$400 total.

Anyone got any ideas? i want it to have DDL input and all that stuff. cuz im gettin tha tkick ass new sound card when it comes out

As for the sub, Quality, no quantity, but its gotta match this
http://www.velodyne.com/velodyne/products/ob_product_detail.aspx?ID=CHTSWV&sid=963x713e
(not color, just power, etc)
 
He just gave you two excellent ones for the price, Denons are among the best receivers out there.
 
Those Denon receivers are pretty nice. www.ac4l.com sells refurbed Marantz gear, which is all pretty good, so it might be worth looking there to see if any SR4400's are in stock, as they would be in your price range.

For subs, you can get a Dayton sub from Parts Express for around 150 shipped, IIRC. Those seem to be the consensus for the best sub at that price point. Of course, if you spend more money, you can get bigger/better, but that's a given =]
 
i went to b est buy today and the dude told me something about some ratio. That good recievers try to get them below .04% had something to do with distortion

acually i looked on the site again and came up with this

"75 watts per channel (8 ohms, 20 Hz-20 kHz, <.05%THD)
110 watts per channel (6 ohms, 1 kHz, <.7%THD) "

looks good. but hmmm. thanks for the info though

anyone got any sub links?
 
also, if i get the Denon AVR685S
will that have a good output for a sub? could i get a digital sub then?
 
compslckr posted the link to the Dayton sub that I was suggesting earlier. Also, there is no such thing as a digital sub.

The stat that the BB drone was stating was probably Total Harmonic Distortion, a measure of how 'contaminated' the sound will be. However, it's hardly the only stat that defines the quality of a receiver, and I frankly wouldn't pay much attention to it unless it's above 1%. In fact, tube amps produce large amounts of even order harmonics, which is one reason that people seem to enjoy them.
 
thanks for the link. Forgot to mention, that I would prefer a better sub with wider range and clarity, vs a larger one, when it comes to terms of money.

that 10 inch one looks nice
 
EchoMatrix said:
thanks, but what about a reciever for like 200-300? I may get it as a birthday gift instead of buying it out right.

and are subs that expensive?

most of best buys recievers are about 200. do all these suck?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...ragments/product/olslinelistingsortfilter.jsp
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well.. I only suggested the cheaper ones since your total for sub + reciever was $400 or so.. you could go with this one too..

Denon AVR785S - $278.30 <<<< this one is a 7 channel.
http://www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?dpno=757311

but I can guarantee you this... this reciever will be better than anything you get for the price at Best Buy... BB usually have budget recievers at not budget prices.

as far as the sub.. you would just feed it with the subwoofer outs on the reciever. Make sure you don't get a passive sub tho. Or you could do what others suggested in getting the Dayton.. which offers a lot of good sound for the $$$.
 
I've been looking around and so far, nothing has been able to beat this price for these features. How much shipping for something this massive? I found teh same one through Amazon.com and its a better known site, in case it totally sucks.

any last min alternatives? too bad the thing is ugly...

as for the sonotube, do you think its worth making this if you have the time? Or would I get the same results just by buying this now. anyone have any tube reviews?
 
DIY will, in the case of subs, pretty much always guarantee you the best bang for the buck. I think it might be arguable how 'musical' you can feasibly make a DIY sub, but I wouldn't be concerned about that at all in the price range that you are looking at anyways.

Building a sonotube, or other DIY design, would net you better extension and higher SPL's for your dollar, but I think at the price range you are interested in, the options for even DIY would be very limited. A good driver alone costs in the range of 100-500 [if you decide you need an 18" Avalanche ] then you have to add in the cost of wood, glue, amp, ports, any tools you don't own but need, etc. DIY has hidden costs for all but the true craftsmen =]
 
In any case, I think your best bet is to restrict yourself to ~$150 receivers. Dedicate the rest to the subwoofer.

If you are willing to expand your budget a little and act very quickly, there are two b-stock PB10-ISD, one black and one white, at svsubwoofers.com.

Here's the product page. It's a very good subwoofer for $400.
http://www.svsubwoofers.com/subs_pb10_isd.htm

Here is a very good site on DIY subwoofers.
http://www.diysubwoofers.org/

Shoponkyo.com has refurb TX-SR302 for $119 shipped. Sign up for a membership at clubonkyo.com for a $10 bonus credit off the $129 price. It is a pretty limited unit, with only two digital (optical and coax) inputs, spring-clip speaker terminals, and only composite video switching. However, it has multichannel analog inputs and an adjustable sub crossover. Those are much more important features. Besides, if it is strictly for a computer audio rig, who needs video switching and extra digital inputs?

If it is anything like the SR500 that I had some years back, it would do a quite respectable job, and beat your <$150 options at Best Buy or Circuit City.

Other bargain subwoofer options, other than DIY, are the Hsu Research STF-1 and STF-2.

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/

You can be added to thier B-stock waiting list.

http://www.hsuresearch.com/support/index.php?id=30
 
did some more reasearch and got the dayton. wont be able to see it until schools out, but oh well. Now i just need a reciever for my B-day and ill be set. thank0z0rs
 
ok, i need some good cable. anywhere to get some cheap or should I just goto my local BB and buy some monster there
 
Whatever speaker wire you get will be fine. The monster stuff would be fine, but know you can get cheaper and bear the same results. Copper oxygen-free wire is copper oxygen-free wire is... well, you get my point.
 
last min advice?

gonna get the Denon AVR685S for bout 219+. arguments for, against?

anyone know anything about refurbs?
 
Refurbs generally net you a great deal, but it might be prudent to tack on some sort of warranty, if you plan to keep the device around for a while. If you aren't interested in using it for a long time, such as using it because it's all you can afford at the time, then don't bother with it =]
 
EchoMatrix said:
last min advice?

gonna get the Denon AVR685S for bout 219+. arguments for, against?

anyone know anything about refurbs?
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I bought my refurbed Pioneer Elite THX Ultra reciever from ecost for about $279 at the end of 2002 and it's still going strong. It's msrp was $1200. Like BO(\/)Z said...you can get awesome discounts. Recievers rarely go bad though if you use them normally.. if you abuse them by trying to feed it some weird ohm load or accidently short speaker wires.. then you will kill it.

That is a killer deal on the Denon.. I have been recommending those for a while cause my friend bought one and you really can't lose on that price.. I would buy one myself but I already have 3 recievers.. I may buy it just to get component video switching.. which I need badly to connect my comcastHD, xbox, and PC, and be able to switch between them.. it makes the remote control a lot easier to program too.
 
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