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Need L3 Managed Switch

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I'm looking to get a layer 3 managed switch. The HP we currently have only does layer 2.

I'm looking at a HP v1910-24g. It has 24 10/100/1000 ports and looks to be layer 3 as well.

It looks like they can be had for around $350.

Anything different I should be looking at with similar specs? Any issues with the v1910-24g?

Thanks.
 
the HP v1910-24G is a slightly updated version of the 3Com Baseline Plus 2928.
 
OK, well I guess I'm not sure that is a good thing. Do they run the same firmware as the other procurve switches? I'm guessing not.

What would be the HP procurve solution that would at least give me 20 10/100 ports and at least two 10/100/1000 ports? I'm trying to keep the cost down here but it might be worth it to get an actual procurve and not a 3com.
 
Layer 3 is one thing I need for the switch to have. Beyond that, I would prefer that all 24 ports are Gig but I'm guessing that will put me over what I want to spend on this. So, I'm hoping I can get at least 2 GigE ports for a reasonable amount.
 
Any generation old L3 switches worth looking into? I would really like to stick with a procurve, but maybe a cisco or even a dell.
 
What about a Cisco 3550? Those are kinda older but will do basic L3 functionality.
 
Fint said:
What about a Cisco 3550? Those are kinda older but will do basic L3 functionality.
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That's what I was going to reccommend, as long as you have an EMI IOS and don't need GIG-E, a 3550 will serve you well
 
I looked at a 3550 but it was a gigabit model, used was selling for $800 which was above his price range.
 
Just for pricing purposes, what would you recommend for a 24 gigabit port, layer 3 switch and how much would it be.
 
If you're looking as used stuff, there's a BUNCH of used Enterasys stuff on fleabay as well...

Enterasys C2G124-48
 
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What L3 protocol(s) were you planning on running? If you're planning on staying with HP and wanted to do OSPF, I think you'd need at least a ZL chassis and the license to do so.
 
I want to be able to route between VLANs. It's my understanding that I need a L3 switch to be able to do that. Otherwise, I would need a router and a L2 switch.
 
rosco said:
I want to be able to route between VLANs. It's my understanding that I need a L3 switch to be able to do that. Otherwise, I would need a router and a L2 switch.
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How often is different VLAN stuff going to be communicating?

Could just throw a very cheap router at it.
 
MDF

My plan B is a Mikrotik router. I'm new to Mikrotik though so I was seeing what I would be paying to simplify things, plus only need to learn the switch config as opposed to switch config plus router config.
 
We had some Enterasys and they blow to work with, especially compared to HP's and Cisco's CLI.

So are you going to run OSPF? Is this just the distribution switch for your IDFs? Copper? Fiber?
 
I had no plans regarding OSP.

This would be our main MDF switch. Our access points, servers, and IDF switches would be plugged in. Copper only.

boss99 said:
We had some Enterasys and they blow to work with, especially compared to HP's and Cisco's CLI.

So are you going to run OSPF? Is this just the distribution switch for your IDFs? Copper? Fiber?
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I just remembered that the Zyxel USG routers can do most of that.

They can perform L3 routing between interfaces and or VLans.


I should warn you that the port to port bandwidth is only about 300mbps on the gigabit model......otherwise it may work for you. Try to get a demo of one for testing.
 
Looks like it's only web management for the HP1910 switch, but it should suit you. I was thinking that a 2910 or 2810 would be more up your alley, but the price jumps up considerably.

Do you currently have HP in your IDFs?
 
The only HP switch I have right now is a HP 1800-24g as my mdf switch.
 
Is the 2810 a L3 switch? I found some on ebay but at least a couple of the listings say it's an L2 switch.

What is the best way to quickly tell if the switch is L2 or L3?

What about the procurve 2824?
 
By L3 switch, it does support static routing, as well as multiple VLANs and IP addresses. That's why I was asking if you needed OSPF or anything else along that line.

I have a 2810, lemme fire it up and look at its routing options. 2824 should be pretty comparable as well, but I don't think I've run across any. We have mostly 2610s and the modular switches (4208s, 5412s, etc) in our environment.
 
I need to do routing of the VLAN traffic. That is pretty much the only L3 feature I need that I know of. Basically, that would save me from having to buy a router to route the VLAN tagged traffic.

If the 2810 can do that then it looks like a good fit at a great price.

Thanks for looking into this for me. Let me know what you find.

boss99 said:
By L3 switch, it does support static routing, as well as multiple VLANs and IP addresses. That's why I was asking if you needed OSPF or anything else along that line.

I have a 2810, lemme fire it up and look at its routing options. 2824 should be pretty comparable as well, but I don't think I've run across any. We have mostly 2610s and the modular switches (4208s, 5412s, etc) in our environment.
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Dlink DGS-1224T run around the 200 range

24 port gigabit 2x mini gbic for fiber or whatever

managed and can do vlans and all that fancy crap.
 
I know I'm probably looking at a "budget switch" as far as my price point goes. However, I would much rather have a generation or two old Procurve switch instead of a Netgear or Dlink.
 
rosco said:
I need to do routing of the VLAN traffic. That is pretty much the only L3 feature I need that I know of. Basically, that would save me from having to buy a router to route the VLAN tagged traffic.

If the 2810 can do that then it looks like a good fit at a great price.

Thanks for looking into this for me. Let me know what you find.
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what firewall do you have ( will be using )


I use a Cisco SG200, and i can do what you are wanting to do. ( my routing is done at the sonicwall level tho )
 
I'm using Untangle mainly because of the content filtering it can do. I'm not married to it but the filtering it can do for the dollar is pretty good. So, factor that in please if you are going to suggest something different.
 
Dash- He needs a 24 port, those are way out of his price range.

He needs a simple 24 port gigabit layer 2, I still have yet to see a need for layer 3.

Vlans and all that can be done on a layer 2, and have the router do all routing, I feel it is more efficient that way. and I have heard of weird issues caused by switches doing the routing work.
 
ChRoNo16 said:
Dash- He needs a 24 port, those are way out of his price range.

He needs a simple 24 port gigabit layer 2, I still have yet to see a need for layer 3.

Vlans and all that can be done on a layer 2, and have the router do all routing, I feel it is more efficient that way. and I have heard of weird issues caused by switches doing the routing work.
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My sg 200 was about 275$ I think..

He could buy a dell 24 port 5224 with 24 1gig ports and do vlans...
 
yeah the dells are cheap, they work ok- we used to use the gig ones prolly a 5224 series for copper iscsi.

worked well. just have an untangle box route the vlans or something, cheap and easy.
 
dashpuppy said:
My sg 200 was about 275$ I think..

He could buy a dell 24 port 5224 with 24 1gig ports and do vlans...
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I just purchased 2 of the 5224 from ebay, waiting for them to arrive. Hopefully they will fill my needs. I would rather have a Cisco, but I don't want to spend $$$. I need to get rid of my Netgear GS724T.
 
ChRoNo16 said:
yeah the dells are cheap, they work ok- we used to use the gig ones prolly a 5224 series for copper iscsi.

worked well. just have an untangle box route the vlans or something, cheap and easy.
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how u gunna do that when untangle doesn't support vlans.
 
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