need an E6xxx recommendation/WTB

[ekuest]

this is a repost because i think my last title wasnt very descriptive and people werent answering.

so i have been told that i need a new cpu for better performance. the main thing i am trying to achieve is 60+ fps in tf2. right now i average about 30-40, but sometimes as low as 10-15. its not the internet as my ping is often in the single digits on my favorite servers. my specs are as follows:

psu: 430W Thermaltake
mobo: Asus P5LD2
cpu: Pentium D 805 (2.66GHz OC to 3.2GHz)
ram: 2GB (2x1GB) OCZ Gold DDR2 667
gfx: 512MB PNY GeForce 9800 GT

i was told to look at allendale and conroe processors. an e6xxx was suggested. i plan on upgrading to an i7 in about a year or so, so im trying to keep all my other current parts for now. can someone tell me what will work best with the parts i already have, how much it will cost, and the best place to get it? idk anything about this stuff. there are a bunch of "your _____ is already limited by your ______ so a faster/bigger _______ wont get you any better gameplay performance"-type things i dont know. so, suggestions? im willing to spend what it takes, but it seems like i can find a used E6600 for around 100 pretty easily. maybe as low as 70 or 80?

 

[Dangman]

try searching through the For Sale For Trade subforum for a E66000 or similar Conroe and Allendale CPU. There is a reason why we have a search function...

And has I noted in your thread in the PSU subforum, you really should get a new PSU as well. That Thermaltake is a POS and probably won't last that much longer. The Corsair 400CX is a good choice.

Anyway, don't pay more than $100 for an E6600/E6700, $65 for a E2XXX series CPU and $75 for a E4xxx series CPU. Your best bet would be FS/FT subforum we have. Just do a bloody search in that subforum.

 

[ekuest]

omg with the psu! did you see the other thread i made in the psu forum where like 5 people told me i dont need a new psu unless my computer is restarting/dying on me randomly? they said that a better psu will in no way increase performance. it is only a works or doesnt work thing. i dont know what to think any more! ok im gonna go find an e6600 here or on ebay or something and then i done asking questions i promise. until im ready for my i7 build in a year.

 

[Dangman]

omg with the psu! did you see the other thread i made in the psu forum where like 5 people told me i dont need a new psu unless my computer is restarting/dying on me randomly? they said that a better psu will in no way increase performance. it is only a works or doesnt work thing. i dont know what to think any more! ok im gonna go find an e6600 here or on ebay or something and then i done asking questions i promise. until im ready for my i7 build in a year.

No, two people said that the PSU doesn't influence the performance of the system and only upgrade when there's a problem. However, three other people noted (including myself) that you have two crappy PSUs (that ultra shitty HEC and crappy Thermaltake) that are more than likely to cause problems later on. Think of getting a new PSU as a preventative measure against any potential hardware problem.

 

[ekuest]

ok ok. how about this one? ive heard OCZ's psus are high quality and that ones a 70W boost and a second 12V rail. i canceled that hec already.

the thing is, this psu has been through 2 power outages and at least a dozen brownouts because i live in seattle. it has been on for all of them, and has still never given me a problem. it has never shut down or restarted randomly on me. i dont want to invest in a new psu because nothing in my computer is all that nice anyway, and i dont see whats wrong with this psu.

im upgrading my 2.6 pentium d 805 OCd to 3.2 to a 2.4 e6600 OCd to hopefully 3.4 or even more if i get a lapped one im looking at. will that increase power consumption so much that my current 430W will be insufficient? if not, then i dont see why i need a new psu.

 

[Dangman]

ok ok. how about this one? ive heard OCZ's psus are high quality and that ones a 70W boost and a second 12V rail. i canceled that hec already.

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im upgrading my 2.6 pentium d 805 OCd to 3.2 to a 2.4 e6600 OCd to hopefully 3.4 or even more if i get a lapped one im looking at. will that increase power consumption so much that my current 430W will be insufficient? if not, then i dont see why i need a new psu.

Actually many of OCZ's PSUs are based on the troublesome FSP Epsilon platform, which means that they're not all good quality PSUs. Also, just because there's a second +12V rail does not mean that it offers more power or is a better PSU. You should read this PSU FAQ:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1036

Anyway, that OCZ PSU will be fine. But the Corsair PSU I recommended is of far superior quality the OCZ StealthXStream. Sorta like a Lexus (Corsair) VS a Honda Civic (That StealthXStream). BUt the StealthXStream does offer more power on the +12V rail.

An 3.2 to 3.4Ghz E6600 will probably use just as much power as a 2.6Ghz Pentium D. And again, you're ignoring the reason why me, davidhammock, and Zero82z recommended AGAINST using using the Thermaltake 430W PSU: It's a POS. Yes it's lasted through the dozen brown-outs and two power outages but does still doesn't mean that's a decent quality PSU. In fact, with that many brown-outs and power outages, that Thermaltake 430W won't probably be able to provide its already low-for-a-300W-PSU 18A on the +12V rail for much longer. So in others, we are warning you to replace the PSU before you get that new CPU. Especially since you're overclocking where you'll need a stable PSU, not a low quality 18A on the +12V rail PSU like that Thermaltake.

In case you haven't figured out from my posts, 18A on the +12V rail for a 430W PSU is ridiculously low. This 380W PSU has 27A on the +12V rail and these other 430W PSUs all have at least 30A on the +12V rail. So if other equal and lower wattage PSUs have more amperage on the +12V rail than that Thermaltake, that is damn good sign of the Thermaltake's low quality.

 

[ekuest]

ok danny, because you helped me before and i trust you i am going to upgrade my psu. im looking on the fs forum now for a used one. this is available for a good price, and i know you like antec, so i made him an offer. plus i think that should be enough to power an i7 in the future since i dont plan on sli or any optical drives and only 2 hard drives. thanks for your help, and unless you have a problem with that one, i should be out of your hair now.

 

[Dangman]

ok danny, because you helped me before and i trust you i am going to upgrade my psu. im looking on the fs forum now for a used one. this is available for a good price, and i know you like antec, so i made him an offer. plus i think that should be enough to power an i7 in the future since i dont plan on sli or any optical drives and only 2 hard drives. thanks for your help, and unless you have a problem with that one, i should be out of your hair now.

Sorry to be a pain but I just wanted to make sure that nothing bad would happen to such a decent rig. Oh and the EA650 is a good choice.