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Need a new video editing rig

Eiolon

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I just want to say that I won't be able to build a new video editing rig for at least 4 years and probably won't be able to upgrade any component outside of my hard drives so I need it to be future proof, if there is such a thing. Speed takes priority over storage, but I'd like to walk away with at least 4 TB of storage.


1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing? etc

HD video editing with Premiere CS5

2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?

$3,000 is budgeted, but the less I use the better so I can use it on camera equipment

3) Where do you live?

AZ

4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. The word "Everything" is not a valid answer. Please list out all the parts you'll need.

Motherboard
CPU
Video card w/CUDA
PSU
RAM
Case with room for about 10 hard drives (was looking at: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112243 )
Hard Drives (need a couple for the OS/App in RAID 0, need 1 for pagefile and rendering, need as many as possible for storage (2TB's would be nice))
DVD-RW
Blu-ray Burner

5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing? Please be especially specific about the power supply. List make and model.

Keyboard and mouse

6) Will you be overclocking?

No

7) What size monitor do you have and/or plan to have?

I use two 24 in. Dell's (1920x1200).

8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?

Any time

9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? USB 3.0? SATA 6Gb/s? etc.

I'd like RAID 0 for my OS/App hard drive, firewire is needed, no SLI is needed, USB 3.0 would be nice but not required, SATA 6Gb/s would be great. The less time I have to twiddle my thumbs while videos are rendering the better.

10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license? If yes, what OS? Is it 32bit or 64bit?

Yes, Windows 7 64-bit.
 
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Please come back and ask again a week into February as we'll know what Newegg combo deals will be available then. However if you don't want to save money via those combo deals, let us know now and we'll set up a build for you right now.
 
Bumping now that it is February. If there are no good bundles right now, that is fine. I'd like to order everything from NewEgg to keep it simple.
 
Yeah still the first of February. A lot of mixed up deals at the moment. Wait a few more days.
 
With SB dead in the water your options are limited as to what will last several years.
 
Can you afford to wait until the sandy bridge recall is over (probably over a month) or do you need to build before that?

If you need to build right now your only real choice IMO is an x58 rig. With that the main descision you have to make is whether to get a 950 or 970 (is 2 extra cores worth an extra $600 to you?). Pretty much any x58 board with two x16 slots (you can drop your GPU in one and an x8 raid card in the other) will be fine.

If you are going to have 10 hard drives plus presumablly an optical drive you will also need a controller to drive them since the ICH10 used with x58 only has 6 SATA ports. Unfortunately from what I can gather most desktop grade add-on SATA controllers (whether onboard or on cards) seem to be relatively poor performance. A server grade SAS card (you can use SAS controllers to drive SATA drives) is probablly your best option for driving those additional drives.

This one seems to come reccomended on here. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...7&cm_re=sas_controller-_-16-117-157-_-Product . Remember you will need a couple of breakout cables (e.g. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816116097 ) to use it.
 
get a dual socket s1366 SM mobo.. put in 32nm quads. put in 2x 3x4gb ram (t=24GB). get a SSD for OS, a SSD for pagefile/rendering. then as many 2TB HDDs as u like. get a 460 or 560 nv gpu: it has cuda capailities for PS *&* Premiere CS5.
a 750-850W PSU (Corsair AX-xxx) will suffice

:thumbup:
 
IMO unless you REALLY need huge ammounts of ram or performance greater than a 980x or huge amounts of PCIe going dual socket is a waste of money.
 
I can wait until the recall has finished, I'm just really anxious. You don't understand what it's like to edit on this PoS that I am using now. I also have to spend this money or lose it by June. And if it's any incentive, it's your tax dollars so build it like you would build for yourself :)
 
Just to get the creative juices flowing.... here's one idea:

1 x ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Item #: N82E16827135204
$18.99

1 x LIAN LI PC-A70F Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811112243
$199.99

2 x Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136533
$179.98

6 x Western Digital Caviar Black WD1501FASS 1.5TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136592
$719.94

1 x SILVERSTONE ST85F-P 850W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817256058
$149.99

1 x G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Desktop Memory Model F3-8500CL7Q-16GBRL
Item #: N82E16820231309
$189.99

1 x ASUS Maximus III GENE LGA 1156 Intel P55 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813131599
$159.99 ( -$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card )

1 x SONY Black Blu-ray Burner SATA BD-5300S-0B - OEM
Item #: N82E16827118050
$129.99

1 x Verbatim 25GB 2X BD-R LTH Single Jewel Case Disc (use w/LTH Compat Drive) 96569 - OEM
Item #: N82E16817130069
$0.00 (free with Blu-ray)

1 x Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Item #: N82E16820148348
$239.99

1 x Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I7870
Item #: N82E16819115213
Combo with:
MSI N460GTX Cyclone 768D5/OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video ...
Item #: N82E16814127512
$421.98 ( -$30.00 Main-in Rebate )

Subtotal: $2,410.83
Shipping: $27.41

Not including, promo code EMCKJHC22 for the 1TB drives (limit 5, good only today 2/2).
 
Pretty poor build IMO

That highpoint card seems very expensive. Even when you count the extra cost for the breakout cables the intel (rebranded LSI) that I linked is cheaper. Only reason to go for the highpoint would be if you want raid 5 for your data drives (but i've seen way too many problems with raid 5 arrays to trust them (I'm not convinced that raid 5 as typically implemented at the low end is a net gain in data security over running single drives), raid 1 all the way for anything important.

The motherboard is rather limited on expansion slots, in particular with a dual slot graphics card (or a card that is technically single slot but that you don't really want to put anything next to) in there your only place to put the raid card is the slot that steals lanes from the GPU and if you want to add a second raid card (which is quite conceivable if you want to use every bay in a full tower case) your only option would be PCI.

The 870 is marginally cheaper than the 950 but it's slower and supports less ram and less PCIe. Not a good buy IMO.

i7 950: $294.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211&cm_re=i7_950-_-19-115-211-_-Product
ASRock X58 Extreme: $164.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157163
Intel SASUC8I PCI-Express x8 SATA / SAS (Serial Attached SCSI) Controller Card: $154.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...7&cm_re=sas_controller-_-16-117-157-_-Product
Breakout cables for SAS card: $19.99 each http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816116097

Ideally you want 3 or 6 sticks of ram to go with that (it will work fine with other numbers but you won't get full triple channel), any decent DDR3 should be fine.

I'll leave GPU and case selection to others.
 
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