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NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

Search isn't being very helpful. Any Canadians that have purchased in the last year or so mind sending me a PM?
 
Speed-Driven said:
Well.. she's all painted and put back together. Now.. WHAT SHOULD I NAME HER?

Scarlet Witch? Red Dwarf?

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Hester Prynne... :)
 
Would you guys recommend a Blower style cooler or an open air? I will be populating the two bottom slots of the case with two SP120's, would this give enough airflow to warrant getting the board partner GTX 1080's?
 
D0T0T said:
Would you guys recommend a Blower style cooler or an open air? I will be populating the two bottom slots of the case with two SP120's, would this give enough airflow to warrant getting the board partner GTX 1080's?
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I haven't yet ordered my card for the v5 build but I have been leaning towards blower just to keep the hot air out of the case. That being said I would like to see some temps of the 3rd party cards to see if the extra heat dump is even that large considering we have very few blower style options.
 
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csd said:
I'm running Corsair LPX 3200s at their rated speed without any issues at all on my Asrock X99 ITX.
Ripjaw Vs work fine as do Corsair Dominators, neither of which are on the supported memory list :)

Narrow ILM is quite different to the stanard LGA2011-3 - you will need a separate adaptor. I don't think any AIO kits come bundled with one?

Theres a good summary of compatible coolers here:
http://www.overclock.net/t//lga-201...one-liquid-cooler-compatibility#post_25093300
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OC.net link is dead....
 
Bijiont said:
I haven't yet ordered my card for the v5 build but I have been leaning towards blower just to keep the hot air out of the case. That being said I would like to see some temps of the 3rd party cards to see if the extra heat dump is even that large considering we have very few blower style options.
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I am in the same boat right now. Thinking of ordering a founders but earlier iata posted about the g1 gaming getting good tempo so I am still unsure. I'd rather get 100 off and get an open air but if a blower is indeed better I will just pay the extra.
 
That should be better for keeping the case cold, but combined with the blower video card will be a lot of negative air pressure. I hope he is not in a dusty environment.
 
Hey Guys,

Tried to do a search on the thread but hit too many results and figured I'd just ask.

Anyone know if the Ncase M1 v1 motherboard cut out fits most m.2 SSDs?

Thanks!
 
Crispy517 said:
Hey Guys,

Tried to do a search on the thread but hit too many results and figured I'd just ask.

Anyone know if the Ncase M1 v1 motherboard cut out fits most m.2 SSDs?

Thanks!
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It does :) I only need to take of side-panel to.change m.2
 
I bought a EVGA SC 1080 last week before I found out that the blower style card was preferred.

Do you guys think I should try to find someone to do a local trade for a reference card?


Or it would be fine if I just put the EVGA SC into the Ncase M1? As it stands right now I'm not interested in OC'ing my card.
 
dzhang said:
I bought a EVGA SC 1080 last week before I found out that the blower style card was preferred.

Do you guys think I should try to find someone to do a local trade for a reference card?


Or it would be fine if I just put the EVGA SC into the Ncase M1? As it stands right now I'm not interested in OC'ing my card.
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Give it a try first, if you aren't happy with the temps see if you can trade it.
 
dzhang said:
I bought a EVGA SC 1080 last week before I found out that the blower style card was preferred.

Do you guys think I should try to find someone to do a local trade for a reference card?


Or it would be fine if I just put the EVGA SC into the Ncase M1? As it stands right now I'm not interested in OC'ing my card.
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i recommend returning it and getting the cheaper $609 EVGA Blower style 1080. I was running furmark and I hit the 81 degree throttling point at stock clocks and not only that but it dumped so much heat into the case that my cpu reached 80 degrees (it was maxing at 56 degrees during furmark when I was using a blower style r9 290). Avoid the open cooler for best performance, it'll be loud but the blower will perform much better.
 
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dzhang said:
I bought a EVGA SC 1080 last week before I found out that the blower style card was preferred.

Do you guys think I should try to find someone to do a local trade for a reference card?


Or it would be fine if I just put the EVGA SC into the Ncase M1? As it stands right now I'm not interested in OC'ing my card.
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Throw it in there and let us know how the temps are! I am kind of waiting for the cheaper blower cards to come out but also thinking about picking up an open air cooler.
 
rfarmer said:
Good job scoring a 1070, how are you liking it? I am waiting for some reference, non Founders Edition to come out. Great looking build are those EnSourced cables or did you do them yourself?
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It's great so far. I came from a gtx 670... so yeahh :)

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Seems to max at around 78 degrees with my fan profile at 100% GPU load. I have it set to 80% @ 70C and 100% @ 80C.

I tried overclocking a bit and got to +190MHz GPU offset before it started artifacting in the heaven benchmark.

Then at idle from 0-60C I keep it at 35C which is barely audible.


Verdi said:
Looking really good. Could you talk a little bit about its performance in terms of noise?
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I mean.. any card at 80-100% fan speed will be noisy? It's really not too loud at idle.

GODenergy said:
Sexy build, is there a reason you put the fans exhausting thru the radiator instead of intaking thru the side panel?
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Honestly I'm not sure.

Mannymal said:
That should be better for keeping the case cold, but combined with the blower video card will be a lot of negative air pressure. I hope he is not in a dusty environment.
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What would be the proper way to set it up?
 
exzacklyright said:
It's great so far. I came from a gtx 670... so yeahh :)

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Seems to max at around 78 degrees with my fan profile at 100% GPU load. I have it set to 80% @ 70C and 100% @ 80C.

I tried overclocking a bit and got to +190MHz GPU offset before it started artifacting in the heaven benchmark.

Then at idle from 0-60C I keep it at 35C which is barely audible.




I mean.. any card at 80-100% fan speed will be noisy? It's really not too loud at idle.



Honestly I'm not sure.



What would be the proper way to set it up?
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Set the radiator fans as intake, they exhaust out the top of the case. Your video card exhausts out the back. Plus with positive pressure you will get very little dust in your case. Just clean the dust filter.
 
Bijiont said:
Very cool, be interesting to see temps of the system in stress tests once you have all the panels back on. Congrats on the build.
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I posted about it a few posts up. The Superclocked 1080 hits 81 degrees after 4-5 minutes in furmark and starts throttling. It also raised cpu temps by 26 degrees in the stress test compared to the stress test temps from my reference 290.
 
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What would be the proper way to set it up?[/QUOTE]

Fans bringing cold air from outside through the radiator INTO the case. That way you have more air coming into the case than leaving it, which causes dust issues due to negative air pressure.
 
shinjinian said:
I posted about it a few posts up. The Superclocked 1080 hits 81 degrees after 4-5 minutes in furmark and starts throttling. It also raised cpu temps by 26 degrees in the stress test compared to the stress test temps from my reference 290.
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Is this with the stock fan profile or have you adjusted it? Also do you have any 120 mm fans below the card or any exhaust? Thanks!
 
AWartman said:
Is this with the stock fan profile or have you adjusted it? Also do you have any 120 mm fans below the card or any exhaust? Thanks!
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I haven't had time to mess with the fan profiles yet but I'm planning to do that tonight. I have two noctua industrials underneath it. Although one isn't hooked up because I don't have a second fan header, the splitter cable should've arrived yesterday so hopefully it'll be waiting for me when I get home. Once I hook up the second fan and tinker with the fan profiles I'll post how it went.

Unfortunately it doesn't change the fact that it raised my cpu temps by 26 degrees at load, that's quite an impressive amount of heat it's dumping in the case. I don't know how your Ncase is setup but if you have a 92mm tower cooler and a pair of 120mm fans mounted on your side bracket you should fair better than me when it comes to cpu temps.
 
The NCase people on reddit just told me that the TwinFrozr 1080 doesn't fit in the NCase... Can you guys confirm this? If no, which 1080 should I get? I'm looking for the coolest/quietest 1080 and I doubt a blower card can do that.
 
Well adjusting the fan curve helped get it down to 79 degrees max with no throttling. Still that leaves practically no room for overclocking.

Does anybody know of a good pump cpu waterblock combo. The apogee drive 2 has some serious leakage problems all across the Internet and I don't want a gaint pump/res combo hanging off the back of my case.
 
shinjinian said:
I haven't had time to mess with the fan profiles yet but I'm planning to do that tonight. I have two noctua industrials underneath it. Although one isn't hooked up because I don't have a second fan header, the splitter cable should've arrived yesterday so hopefully it'll be waiting for me when I get home. Once I hook up the second fan and tinker with the fan profiles I'll post how it went.

Unfortunately it doesn't change the fact that it raised my cpu temps by 26 degrees at load, that's quite an impressive amount of heat it's dumping in the case. I don't know how your Ncase is setup but if you have a 92mm tower cooler and a pair of 120mm fans mounted on your side bracket you should fair better than me when it comes to cpu temps.
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I am actually still in the process of building. I am going to use an AIO but am still leaning towards a blower card just to keep the heat out of the case. Thank you for your input though, it is helping me decide! Also if anyone is planning on using one of the newer Enermax Liqmax 2 AIOs the block seems to be fairly large. I just tried to install the 120mm version and the tubes coming out of the block were pushing on my ram pretty hard (Asus z170i pro gaming). You can change the orientation but having the tubes to the right seemed to be the best for hose flex. Just a heads up if anyone is planning on using one of these in the ncase.
 
shinjinian said:
I posted about it a few posts up. The Superclocked 1080 hits 81 degrees after 4-5 minutes in furmark and starts throttling. It also raised cpu temps by 26 degrees in the stress test compared to the stress test temps from my reference 290.
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Yup I noted your post as well in the information I have been gathering. I have been pulling information people post on temps along with their configurations in a spreadsheet to give me a good "guesstimate" on temps when I have my final build.

It is interesting to see how slight variations make noticeable changes to overall internal case performance.
 
shinjinian said:
Well adjusting the fan curve helped get it down to 79 degrees max with no throttling. Still that leaves practically no room for overclocking.

Does anybody know of a good pump cpu waterblock combo. The apogee drive 2 has some serious leakage problems all across the Internet and I don't want a gaint pump/res combo hanging off the back of my case.
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Those would be your only choices. I'm going with ek's 100mm res + d5 revo pump combo hanging out the back.
 
shinjinian said:
Does anybody know of a good pump cpu waterblock combo. The apogee drive 2 has some serious leakage problems all across the Internet and I don't want a gaint pump/res combo hanging off the back of my case.
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If you're going to be using a full cover block on the GPU you can fit a DDC pump + Aquacomputer Aquacover DDC top on the floor of the case. A few people have done builds with that combo.
 
Thanks Bijiont! I've been running Heaven benchmark on loop, and GPU temp stabilized at 73c.

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This is my airflow layout. Pardon the poor picture. x2 120mm Silencio fans on the bottom. Double Noctua Redux on NH-U9S and exhaust. This is with poor cabling so far, and no fan profiles.

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im after a black left side panel so i can mod it with glass... when is stock expected?
 
m0po said:
im after a black left side panel so i can mod it with glass... when is stock expected?
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I don't believe we'll be stocking individual side panels, unfortunately. I tried to make the case for them to w360, but he insists because we don't have the proper packaging for them and they end up being fairly expensive due to shipping that it doesn't make sense to stock them.
 
DersTheSwede said:
Thanks Bijiont! I've been running Heaven benchmark on loop, and GPU temp stabilized at 73c.

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This is my airflow layout. Pardon the poor picture. x2 120mm Silencio fans on the bottom. Double Noctua Redux on NH-U9S and exhaust. This is with poor cabling so far, and no fan profiles.

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Very nice, even your core temps and system sensors are pretty good.

Yup I agree on the cable management. I think once that gets cleaned up the internal temps may drop a little (1-2°c possibly) not enough to make a huge difference but a little extra helps.
 
Mannymal said:
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What would be the proper way to set it up?
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Fans bringing cold air from outside through the radiator INTO the case. That way you have more air coming into the case than leaving it, which causes dust issues due to negative air pressure.[/QUOTE]


so like this? http://i.imgur.com/bhiWxWF.jpg

Rad | Fans | Side Panel.

<--------------- Air from the outside.
 
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