My slow build ( for fun)

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Rydawg5143

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Last week i decided I was going to build a computer over the span of 40 days. I'll pick up parts when I see them super low price ( but quality) I'm just going to open this thread so people can judge! Nothing will be used and AR counts. So far i have:

Case: Antec NSK4480B w/ 380w EA PSU - $27
PSU: Antec 380w EA ( see above
DVD: Samsung SH-S223Q- $25
RAM: CORSAIR XMS2 2GB DDR2- 800- $32AR
GPU:
MOBO: GA-EG31-S2 $55
CPU: E2180 $60
HSF: Stock
OS: Premium Vista ( 64 bit) $100
HD: WD6400AAKS $85

If you have any ideas on the remaining parts, please feel free to voice your opinion. As far as what this computer is for? Whos knows, might sell it, might game on i,t might give it to a friend. I'm just building it for the hell of it atm.

I have 30 more days to buy stuff. I dont need anything more powerful than a 4850 ( gpu), was thinking of a e7200(cpu) with a mid range mobo(?) and prob a 92mmm xigamatek.... But like I said I have time and lowest price is best :) if it doesnt lower the quality.
 
I'd go with a q6600, p5q pro, visiontek 4850 (for the warranty), and maybe a TRUE (not sure if that would fit in the 300).
 
The p5q and q6 defeat the purpose of this build with is budget ( dont have one but trying to build a good computer for a low price), 4850 is cool and im leaning towards but honestly i dont think anything this computer would be used for would need anythign more than a 8800. Probably find a 8800 GT one these days for 75AR too.
 
For something cheap and a system you don't really care about, I'd go:

CPU: E5200 for $90
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-31M Micro ATX board for $59 or the MSI P43 Neo3 for $84 with $10 MIR
GPU - Galaxy Geforce 9600GT for $120 with $40 MIR
HSF - Xigmatek HDT-SD964 92mm for $23
 
I can get the e7200 for 99 at MC. better than e5200 yes? dont think ive ever used a micro board, gigabyte is good though.
 
$100 for the E7200 that's a better deal. I'd get that over the E5200. 1066 bus advantage over 800 with 3mb L2 cache over 2mb L2 cache on the E5200 cpu. Gigabyte mobo use to trail in performance a few years back compared to Asus and Abit. They have really stepped up nowdays.

BTW, you mentioned an 8800GT for $75 AR, that's really cheap.
 
The MSI P43 Neo3 for $84 with $10 MIR from NewEgg or get the Gigabyte GA-EP43-DS3L for $87 at Zipzoomfly.com
 
Rydawg5143 said:
Last week i decided I was going to build a computer over the span of 40 days. I'll pick up parts when I see them super low price ( but quality) ...
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Thats basically what I do throughout the years, lol.
 
lol when i first read the title i thought you were purposly building a slow rig...

i.e. old 100mhz processor, SDRAM etc etc
 
-Is there a way to test a PSU w/o a motherboard, basically i want to turn the case fans on to make sure they all work etc..
-I'm having trouble deciding on a mobo. I almost think p5q pro, then i can throw my ds3r into this rig and if I do that, it makes sense to get the e8400 combo at egg for 275..... but then thats not budget:p
-I cant make up my mind on GPU, remember i have no clue what this rig will before cept that it wont be hard core gaming ( though will be soe medium gaming) SO i'm thinking 9800 ( Get free cod4 since i already want it) or 4850 ( little higher price than I wanted), 3870 ( Good price)
- Would it be worth it to go AMD with this build? I know they dont OC for shit pretty much, but i doubt I will OC this at all. Never dealth with a CPU cooler for AM2.
- Waiting on another code for the wd3200aaks or 6400 to roll around.
 
1) yes, google "psu paperclip trick" and/or "jumpstart psu"
2) i love buying something better than what i have, at a good deal. Then I "sell" myself the used part to help convince me that its budget. :p
3) since no hardcore gaming, get an hd3650 :p
4) only if you want super low budget. am2 cooler works the same as an lga775 cooler except the mount... one is no harder than the other to mount.
5) waiting game. :)
 
- thanks, im goign to do the paperclip trick!
- thats what i was thinkign as well :)
- dont have any 1st hand exp with the 3650, if some gaming would a 3870/50 be a better buy?
- Whats a good AM2 mobo/cpu? been awhile :p
- I hate waiting!
 
Some gaming, get the Sapphire HD 4670 for $80. Pretty good performance for the price. DX10.1, Shader Model 4.1 with HDMI out via adapter and 8 channel audio through the HDMI as well.
 
but at 80 bucks why not get a 9800 w/ free game for about 20 bucks more... hehe, ima be hre al day .
 
Microboards tend to run hotter than a standard ATX mobo. Of course the sucky thing also is limited PCI slot and only 2 memory slot banks. But, my Acer Q6600 system is using a Micro ATX mobo with the Intel G31 chipset. It runs good. I have no issues with it.
 
-Dont think I will OC, but never know, is the g31 decent enough?
-the mobo will be inside a antec 300 with 7 fans, so not to worries about heat
 
Updated 1st post. Still trying to decide on a GPU, leaning towards 8600, or I could get a 9800GT and replace with gf's 8600... hmm

SHould i snag the ep45-ds3l for 80AR instead of this micro board i got coming?
 
Rydawg5143 said:
Updated 1st post. Still trying to decide on a GPU, leaning towards 8600, or I could get a 9800GT and replace with gf's 8600... hmm

SHould i snag the ep45-ds3l for 80AR instead of this micro board i got coming?
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I would upgrade the GF's GPU if she games.

I'd grab the DS3L if OC'ing.
 
<gripe>i know i do this myself sometimes, but i hate it when people disagree but don't even give a reason... it renders the post useless and causes people to ask the obvious question of why. </gripe>

However, I don't care to know the reason, so the question has been removed.
 
enginurd said:
<gripe>i know i do this myself sometimes, but i hate it when people disagree but don't even give a reason... it renders the post useless and causes people to ask the obvious question of why. </gripe>
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So you can suggest a motherboard for overclocking without a reason as to why you're recommending it but I can't disagree without providing my reason? :rolleyes:
 
I decided if this is a true budget build I needed to change a few things. I dropped the ANtec case and corsair PSU and replaced it with a Antec NSK4480B w/ 380w EA PSU that i got for 27 bucks. I dropped the e7200 and am going with a e2180. I like the end total better this way. I think a geforce 8600 will be good in this as well.
If i decided to give this computer to my gf, it would still be an upgrade :p as she has a Acer from bestbuy she overpaid for last year.
WHat dod you guys think of the proc switch? i think i can get the OC pretty decent on the e2180?
 
Yah, the E2180 can get to around 3.2Ghz or a bit higher, and should perform nicely. However, the E5200, part of the E5000 Pentium Dual-Core lineup (replace the E2000 line), would be a better choice since it can OC higher and has double the amount of L2 cache. Also, its 45nm so it consumes less voltage and runs cooler -- which, in turn, makes it a pretty damn good OC'er. Its inbetween the E2180 ($70) and E7200 ($100) as far as pricing goes ($85), but it can OC like the E7200. ;) Though, with the E2180, the smaller L2 cache will only affect performance slightly (at most 15% in some games/apps).

KamelRed said:
So you can suggest a motherboard for overclocking without a reason as to why you're recommending it but I can't disagree without providing my reason? :rolleyes:
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I gave a reason for the motherboard... for OC'ing. You gave no reason. Now you're asking for a reason behind my reason, still without providing a reason of your own? LOL. BTW, I'm not saying you can't disagree without reason, I'm just complaining about such disagreement. :p
 
enginurd said:
I gave a reason for the motherboard... for OC'ing. You gave no reason. Now you're asking for a reason behind my reason, still without providing a reason of your own? LOL. BTW, I'm not saying you can't disagree without reason, I'm just complaining about such disagreement. :p
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I never asked for your reason, I was merely debating the logic of your statement. I didn't give my reason to your reply because you had stated that you did not care.
 
KamelRed said:
I never asked for your reason, I was merely debating the logic of your statement. I didn't give my reason to your reply because you had stated that you did not care.
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Ok, but you said I gave no reason for my recommendation when, in fact, I did.

Rydawg5143 said:
check ur PM eng :p
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Sorry, I though I replied earlier, but I got caught up in something at work... (actual work, lol).
 
enginurd said:
Ok, but you said I gave no reason for my recommendation when, in fact, I did.
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If overclocking is your reason then wouldn't it be assumed that by me disagreeing with that statement that my reason is its not a good overclocker?
 
KamelRed said:
If overclocking is your reason then wouldn't it be assumed that by me disagreeing with that statement that my reason is its not a good overclocker?
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All right, how is the DS3L not a good overclocker?
 
KamelRed said:
Search the forums and read the many problems people have had with the board. I myself have also experienced problems with it.
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I searched, but didn't find many problem threads on OC'ing with the P43-DS3L. Could you link some? I havent noticed that many threads on here about problematic DS3L's, but then again I'm not here as much as I used to be.
 
enginurd said:
I searched, but didn't find many problem threads on OC'ing with the P43-DS3L. Could you link some? I havent noticed that many threads on here about problematic DS3L's, but then again I'm not here as much as I used to be.
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http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1346230
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1322669
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1283320

This is a small sampling of what I am talking about. Some of the issues were solved with a bios flash and no power cleared CMOS. But if I was going to purchase a mobo I'd rather not HAVE to flash the motherboard just to overclock at all.
 
under 1.5v... its 65nm, so the highest I'd go is 1.45v.

KamelRed said:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1346230
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1322669
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1283320

This is a small sampling of what I am talking about. Some of the issues were solved with a bios flash and no power cleared CMOS. But if I was going to purchase a mobo I'd rather not HAVE to flash the motherboard just to overclock at all.
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None of those are the GA-EP43-DS3L. Regardless, I've built about half a dozen builds with the GA-(E)P35-DS3L, and all of them OC'd great out of the box, none needing a BIOS update to do a simple OC. However, some of them did need a BIOS update to get rid of the dual boot issue, including some out of the dozen or so Abit IP35 and IP35-E's I've used in builds. Yet the first P35 board I bought back in July of '07, GA-P35-DS3R rev1.0, OC's great on the original BIOS, lol. It took my E6750 to 4.0Ghz and my Q6600 to 3.6Ghz.

No manufacturer is perfect, and no board is made equal. Yes, you run the risk of needing to troubleshoot things, but this is true for all parts in the DIY world. The P35-DS3L still OC's fine, some needing a new BIOS, others not. The P43-DS3L OC's fine, too (at least the 3 I've used so far). I haven't seen any threads on problems with it, but then again I only searched that one time. Regardless, if you can OC, you can flash a BIOS... its not that hard -- and its only recommended if you're experiencing problems with your current board/BIOS, unless, of course, you don't mind possibly troubleshooting again.
 
This computer sat in my house for 2 weeks then my Grandma decided she wanted a new computer, so this weekend she is getting it.

Case: Antec NSK4480B w/ 380w EA PSU - $27
PSU: Antec 380w EA (see above)
DVD: Samsung SH-S223Q- $25
RAM: CORSAIR XMS2 2GB DDR2- 800- $32AR
GPU: Galaxy 9500GT 1gb (Free from Galaxy)
MOBO: GA-EG31-S2 $55
CPU: E2180 $60
HSF: Stock
OS: Premium Vista ( 64 bit) $100
HD: WD3200AAKS $45

Total is $343. I get to buy her a new LCD as well, probably a 22". The GPU isnt needed as she will only use this for pictures from family, light net use and watching home videos but figured Galaxy gave it to me and I dont need it.....

Did pretty good if I say so myself :)
 
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